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Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

Chi13

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if you think just a bit further you will understand that its very possible that this thing was a step on the way to a bio weapon. or it was created just to study it. then some human in the lab dropped the tube and bam its escaped from a level 4 bio lab.

not saying it happened like that, but thats just as plausible as this magical disease with about 100 different symptoms, or no symptoms at all, cropping up out of thin air.

was somebudy fucking bats? if they eat them, they cook them and that would kill any virus.

anyway i feel this was exhaustivly explored already in this thread so will cut it short, but use your imagination a bit and you will see that; it not looking like a weapon doesn't mean all that much.

actually all viruses want, is to replicate and spread, if they kill the host, they don't get a chance to spread. the way you can carry it without symptoms is pretty sneaky too and not typical natural virus behaivior.

normal viruses needs you to cough and sneeze so it can be spread.
This thread is full of people using their imagination and speculating. All this leads to is idiotic conspiracy theories with no basis in science. How about you use critical thinking and science instead?

There is absolutely zero evidence that this is a biological weapon.
 

gaiusmarius

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This thread is full of people using their imagination and speculating. All this leads to is idiotic conspiracy theories with no basis in science. How about you use critical thinking and science instead?

There is absolutely zero evidence that this is a biological weapon.

lol, of course it is, thats what the thread is for, sharing crazy links and discussing any peebrained thought that comes into your mind regarding the thread topic. then people have to dig and root around and look for the pearls amongs the shit. LMAO:
 

Roms

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;) (google trad : https://fr.sott.net/article/35861-Les-preuves-irrefutables-de-l-origine-humaine-du-Sras-Cov-2)


Luc Montagnier is a retired French scientist. He received the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2008 for his discovery of the HIV virus. Being a retired Nobel laureate makes him less susceptible to various pressures - cancellation of grants, bad press and peer pressure. Unlike most of his colleagues, he can and does express opinions.

Montagnier described Sras-Cov-2 as a man-made “Frankenstein virus” that combines different types of viruses. According to Montagnier, this Frankenstein virus was made from a natural coronavirus, originating from a bat, but to this model were added sequences very similar to HIV-1 and to the parasite Plasmodium falciparum, itself responsible malaria. This could explain why hydroxychloroquine - an antimalarial drug - is effective against Sras-Cov-2.

To the question: "Isn't the coronavirus natural?" ", Montagnier replied:" No, it is not, it is the fruit of the work of professionals, of molecular biologists, it is about a very precise work, which one could qualify as watchmaker's work ”.


Montagnier's claims about technical insertions of HIV sequences into SARS-Cov-2 were confirmed by a study titled "Strange Similarity of Unique Inserts in Spike Protein of 2019-nCoV to Those of Inherent GP120 and Gag HIV-1 ”, which had to be retracted due to“ too much pressure ”. Two other prominent virologists, namely Ruan Jishou from Nankai University and Li Huan from Huazhong University, independently came to the same conclusion.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/czech-mo...ms-that-covid-19-virus-originates-from-a-lab/

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220300528#!
 

shaggyballs

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This thread is full of people using their imagination and speculating. All this leads to is idiotic conspiracy theories with no basis in science. How about you use critical thinking and science instead?

There is absolutely zero evidence that this is a biological weapon.

There is a mountain of evidence in this tread alone.
None that proves beyond a shadow of doubt.
But some dam good evidence from good folks with real credentials.

So for you to say "There is absolutely zero evidence that this is a biological weapon." is extremely wrong and closed minded to say the least.

May I suggest you....
Review the evidence bro.
 

gaiusmarius

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they make some very logical points and the thing about Lancet retracting the study that said it was dangerous is also factual. does seem strange how crazy people are acting about this anti maleria drug.

you could almost believe that big pharma wants the cure to be new and with a nice profitable patent attached that will make them wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.
 

G.O. Joe

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May I suggest you....
Review the evidence bro.

Try it some time.

Montagnier's claims about technical insertions of HIV sequences into SARS-Cov-2 were confirmed by a study titled “Strange Similarity of Unique Inserts in Spike Protein of 2019-nCoV to Those of Inherent GP120 and Gag HIV-1 ”, which had to be retracted due to“ too much pressure ”.

Either that or the article was retracted because bullshit was called immediately and “it was not our intention to feed into the conspiracy theories and no such claims are made here.”. Montagnier's comments came months later, as he seeks to use the bullshit to advantage, same as the author of Roms quote.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1727299 says steel and a handle doesn't make a knife a gun.

Montagnier also says he has copied DNA by structuring water and transmitting the code. He had parents pay him to cure their kids autism with antibiotics. He can detect it with his water structuring machine. 35 other awardees wrote to the president of Cameroon in 2012 telling him not to let the guy experiment on AIDS patients there.

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012142568A2
 

shaggyballs

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Try it some time.



Either that or the article was retracted because bullshit was called immediately and “it was not our intention to feed into the conspiracy theories and no such claims are made here.”. Montagnier's comments came months later, as he seeks to use the bullshit to advantage, same as the author of Roms quote.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1727299 says steel and a handle doesn't make a knife a gun.

Montagnier also says he has copied DNA by structuring water and transmitting the code. He had parents pay him to cure their kids autism with antibiotics. He can detect it with his water structuring machine. 35 other awardees wrote to the president of Cameroon in 2012 telling him not to let the guy experiment on AIDS patients there.

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2012142568A2

Sure I will try it some time...LOL
Thanks for the links.

Yes, I was aware of all of that but good you pointed it out.
You must admit the aids like symptoms still raise an eyebrow though.

How do you feel about that?

Also, how do you feel about the missing link, the genetic jump with no missing link?

Montagnier?
Is that the guy in charge of making the bio weapons laws in the past?
That is who my info came from, they may be the same I do not remember his name.
 

gaiusmarius

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US coronavirus catastrophe: Who is to blame? | Head to Head

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you have to give it to Mehdi, he really goes after his guests. sometimes a bit rehtorically, but mostly factually, competently and logically. he goes after both Trumps response and the NY response. well worth watching to inform yourself about what arguments either side uses.
 

armedoldhippy

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yes, cooking the meat will kill the virus. but...they must be skinned, gutted etc before cooking, which is where transmission is most likely. we have the same problem in US with wild hogs, which continue to spread unchecked. lots of folks shoot & eat them, very tasty meat. but wild swine carry diseases you do not want to catch, as do bears. chronic wasting disease is also a problem in many cervid (deer, elk, moose etc) populations around the country, and getting worse. health experts (remember when folks listened?) will tell you "NO contact with raw meat from wild animals. wear gloves, be careful!" i doubt the people in China keep surgical gloves on hand to prepare their meals...
 

TychoMonolyth

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yes, cooking the meat will kill the virus. but...they must be skinned, gutted etc before cooking, which is where transmission is most likely. we have the same problem in US with wild hogs, which continue to spread unchecked. lots of folks shoot & eat them, very tasty meat. but wild swine carry diseases you do not want to catch, as do bears. chronic wasting disease is also a problem in many cervid (deer, elk, moose etc) populations around the country, and getting worse. health experts (remember when folks listened?) will tell you "NO contact with raw meat from wild animals. wear gloves, be careful!" i doubt the people in China keep surgical gloves on hand to prepare their meals...

Growing up, everything was cooked to death. It's well done? Cook it some more. Beef Liver was like shoe leather, steak was jerky, birds were dry as fuck. Especially pork. Pork got a lot of people sick in the 'old days'. Apparently pork no longer has that disease (whatever it was).
 

gaiusmarius

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was nice when all you had to worry about was salmonela from raw chicken and what ever raw pork causes. what a bummer when the wild animals start getting sick to the point where their raw meat is toxic. i read that wild buffalo are starting to have issues too which are spreading from herd to herd slowly but surely.
 

gaiusmarius

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Are you aware of who he is? Didier Raoult.

Another perspective;
Chloroquine Witchdoctor Didier Raoult; Barking Mad and Dangerous.
https://forbetterscience.com/2020/0...ctor-didier-raoult-barking-mad-and-dangerous/

no, i was lazy and knew i'd be educated about him sooner or later after posting. :D

the only reason i posted it is because it fits with circumstantial evidence. there is no surge in hospitalizations and deaths anymore. all the graphs show that death hospitalization and death rates are no longer spiking. so either we are developing some kind of acclimatization to it, or its a weaker version, or its younger people getting it who are less effected. either way the fact is that even though numbers are going up, death rates are not.
 

Roms

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TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
;) (google trad : https://fr.sott.net/article/35861-Les-preuves-irrefutables-de-l-origine-humaine-du-Sras-Cov-2)


Luc Montagnier is a retired French scientist. He received the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2008 for his discovery of the HIV virus. Being a retired Nobel laureate makes him less susceptible to various pressures - cancellation of grants, bad press and peer pressure. Unlike most of his colleagues, he can and does express opinions.

Montagnier described Sras-Cov-2 as a man-made “Frankenstein virus” that combines different types of viruses. According to Montagnier, this Frankenstein virus was made from a natural coronavirus, originating from a bat, but to this model were added sequences very similar to HIV-1 and to the parasite Plasmodium falciparum, itself responsible malaria. This could explain why hydroxychloroquine - an antimalarial drug - is effective against Sras-Cov-2.

To the question: "Isn't the coronavirus natural?" ", Montagnier replied:" No, it is not, it is the fruit of the work of professionals, of molecular biologists, it is about a very precise work, which one could qualify as watchmaker's work ”.


Montagnier's claims about technical insertions of HIV sequences into SARS-Cov-2 were confirmed by a study titled "Strange Similarity of Unique Inserts in Spike Protein of 2019-nCoV to Those of Inherent GP120 and Gag HIV-1 ”, which had to be retracted due to“ too much pressure ”. Two other prominent virologists, namely Ruan Jishou from Nankai University and Li Huan from Huazhong University, independently came to the same conclusion.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/czech-mo...ms-that-covid-19-virus-originates-from-a-lab/

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220300528#!
What a bullshit article. Are you sure the author isn't Alex Jones?
 

Roms

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^^ thanks for the quote TM!

Pierre Lescaudron

After training as an Engineer and obtaining an MBA, Pierre held positions of general management, consultant and postgraduate teacher. Pierre joined Sott.net for whom he writes articles and conducts translations, thus satisfying his thirst for discovery, particularly in the fields of science, technology, health and history.
 

gaiusmarius

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its alwas suspicious to me when folks attack the messenger and ignore the message.

if it is so blatantly wrong why not point that out factually, instead of insulting the author?
 
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