Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon

[shaggyballs]

I suggest you read your own thread. I was one of the good folks who posted an original document, other than a youtube clip.

I actually don't think I've met a more gullible fool on the internet than yourself, who believes every single conspiracy theory out there.

what point are you trying to make here?
Why do I need toread the thread?
What am I missing?
Wow you sure think you know me,huh?


This one is for you....

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[shaggyballs]

Another source, says the same thing.

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[shaggyballs]

Dr. Rashid Buttar BLASTS Gates, Fauci, EXPOSES Fake Pandemic Numbers As Economy Collapses

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[clearheaded]

china said use malaria and antibiotics for coronavirus! which infact doubled the fatality of covid!10% who didnt to 22%who got the combo... what are the chances lol for all u conspiracy theory folks. lol .

obv gave it to the more extreme cases so could skew the #s but dont let teh truth get in teh way of a good story.

 

[TNTBudSticker]

After having a good joint.

Some story about some girl having the Covid and then she got better and then she went for antibodies test to donate and guess what...they didn't find any antibodies.

Finished the joint.

 

[Dropped Cat]

To the victors go the spoils.

I sure hope the US congress practices social distance,
as they mostly old and frail.

Hate to see they all test positive, lol.

 

[armedoldhippy]

To the victors go the spoils.

I sure hope the US congress practices social distance,
as they mostly old and frail.

Hate to see they all test positive, lol.

if the right dozen or so die, okay with me. pot would be legal in months...

 

[shaggyballs]

Why all the off topic posts?
ADD I guess?

Is it really too much to ask to stay on topic?
Why?

 

[shaggyballs]

Dr. Francis Boyle, who drafted the Biological Weapons Act speak on the origin of covid -19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMzL227rbiE

 

[Cheesegez]

im confused to why people this this virus is man made by the Chinese ? I mean without a doubt its man made , you only need to know some basic principles to work that out.

its interesting to see that the coronavirus uses the same glycoprotein as HIV and Ebola to gain entry into human cells. Now the possibility of 3 different viral species undergoing the same mutation (cellular error) to express the exact same gene to code for that same glycoprotein is infite.. its just not plausible, a mutation is a ERROR, a miss replication of the genome and rarely beneficial to the pathogen and a organism will only evolve to match its sequence..

A patent well actually, one fastest granted patents in the history of your patent office that the English run, traces the ownership of the genome sequence to purbright institute Surrey, England. Oh and off course silly billy gates is on the board as a heavy investor along with our extremmmeeely loyal queen.

if you wanted to release a biological warfare agent , would you really do it on your own doorstep?

The problem is it's pretty easy if you know what your doing alter a known strain of virus to infect humans, you just need to find the gene that codes for the any protein that binds to one of the many of our cell surface receptors like CCR5 and already you have membrane fusion and potential infection. CRIPSR I mean you can order this shit to your door and alter DNA with it with very accurate precision..

we have been lied too a lot in science , and within most universities if you speak out of social belief you are frowned upon... The main lie is evolution, try being a biologist and thinking its more than just a missing link. HAha

these weapons are effective, stealth cause no environmental damage and leave no trace of the origin .. The world has found the perfect weapon folks, and we are well and truly fucked... ignorance will kill the masses and the elites will die of boredom..

 

[pinkus]

That glycoprotein is totally plausibly from nature, simply because it's incredibly effective and the sheer volume of mutations as the viruses replicate.

Nature is infinitely more powerful than us shmucks.

 

[Cheesegez]

That glycoprotein is totally plausibly from nature, simply because it's incredibly effective and the sheer volume of mutations as the viruses replicate.

Nature is infinitely more powerful than us shmucks.

Unlikely , 3 different virues using the same binding methods from mutative errors , its extremely unlikely..it is more difficult for most viruses to integrate in the host genome after a certain amount of mutations.. far more plausible to be engineered as they have identified the enzyme furin has high rate of binding , so common sense would say use that same mechanism ?

 

[Treevly]

Scientists at Cambridge University - it is a university of some repute in England - has collaborated with German scientists and they think that the virus started in China, but not in Wuhan; and that there are several versions of it, and that the original started in another city quite some distance away, and that the Wuhan version was "type B" so to speak, a second version which had mutated to avoid human immune resistance. North American media are, in my opinion, highly unreliable about most things, and certainly about our SARS-2 pandemic.

 

[shaggyballs]

That glycoprotein is totally plausibly from nature, simply because it's incredibly effective and the sheer volume of mutations as the viruses replicate.

Nature is infinitely more powerful than us shmucks.

I can not speak on the same level here with you.
But how I remember it was.

I think the difficult part was the jump to infect humans.
If it mutated naturally it would have taken many steps to get there.
They suggest some of those natural steps are missing.
So as to jump from one place to the other, missing steps.
Suggesting it may have been grown in a lab.
I hope I said that in a manner that is able to be understood.
The testimony is here, somewhere...LOL

 

[shaggyballs]

Scientists at Cambridge University - it is a university of some repute in England - has collaborated with German scientists and they think that the virus started in China, but not in Wuhan; and that there are several versions of it, and that the original started in another city quite some distance away, and that the Wuhan version was "type B" so to speak, a second version which had mutated to avoid human immune resistance. North American media are, in my opinion, highly unreliable about most things, and certainly about our SARS-2 pandemic.

I have heard all of this also.
I have posted reference to these facts here.

Like you suggest there may be several types of this illness.
I have posts here with doctors saying this exact thing.
They say we must treat 2 separate ways or risk killing the patient.
Ventilators are killing people needlessly.

Thank you for your input.
Shag

 

[hubcap]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck China.


Plain and simple. Look, America has our share of problems. We've made mistakes.
But, quite frankly, weve never infected the whole world with a biological weapon and denied it every step of the way.


The more days that pass, the more info that emerges, the more it looks like China wanted this to happen.


Im not getting to pissing contests with people and Im not entertaining America-haters.


If you hate the US so bad, then move to China. Move to Iran. Move to Russia.
You'd be crying to come home in a month. Or less.


We have out share of problems, indeed. But China...….


A whole 'nuther lever of asshattery and insolence directed at the world community.

 

[St. Phatty]

Covid19 was a JOINT PROJECT between the US and China.

Financed by the US NIH, i.e. Mr. Fauci.

First the US financed the research, performed in China, that resulted in the creation and unleashing of Covid19.

At that time, during the Obama administration, specific warning systems were put in place -
1. White House Pandemic Office.
2. Dr. Linda Quick, stationed in Wuhan - as part of the Early Warning System for a Pandemic.

After Moron Obama set the Covid19 Wheels in Motion, Moron Trump REMOVED THE EARLY WARNING SYSTEMS. He shut down the White House Pandemic Office, and ended the position that financed Dr. Quick's position in China..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...l-pandemic-office-hinder-response/5064881002/

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...d-public-health-position-ahead-of-coronavirus

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-b...us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741


We don't actually know that it was a bio-weapon.

"Gain of Function" work means they were trying to make the virus more infectious and more deadly.

Why were they doing Gain of Function studies - to make a bio-weapon or to develop anti-viral medications ?

Why did NIH subcontract the work to a Chinese institute ?

Did they need Plausible Deniability ?


It's not like Trump or Obama or the NIH will EVER issue a press release, where they tell the truth & clear it all up.

The information will leak out slowly over the years, like the facts came out after 9-11.


The US government did finance the development of Covid19, but we don't know if the intent was to produce a bio-weapon.

 

[hard rain]

Been following this on Australian broadcaster ABC. Heard this guy, Norman Swan interviewed this morning about the likelihood of Coronavirus being developed and released (by accident) from the Wuhan lab. He sums it up pretty well. Apparently very unlikely that this virus comes from the lab.Here's part of the transcript:

Norman Swan: Hello, this is Coronacast, a podcast all about the coronavirus. I'm physician and journalist Dr Norman Swan.
Tegan Taylor: And I'm health reporter Tegan Taylor. It's Tuesday, 5 May.
So Norman, the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said there is a significant amount of evidence that coronavirus emerged from a Chinese laboratory. Give it to me straight, for real, is there any chance it actually was released on purpose from a Chinese lab?
Norman Swan: Okay, I'll give it to you straight and for real; nobody is too sure, but it's not definitive. It's possible that it did but it's unlikely, so it's a low chance. So here's the story. It's a very big level 4 containment lab in Wuhan. Apparently it's quite close to that wet market that the virus came from but I can't confirm that absolutely. And there has been a history of collaboration between the Americans and the Chinese in this lab and they've been looking at coronaviruses. And in 2015 they published a paper together, an American Chinese paper together, where they had done studies where they had manipulated a coronavirus from a horseshoe bat. We spoke about this a couple of weeks ago on Coronacast. And they showed that this had pandemic potential in an animal model. I think it was a mouse model. And that's the conclusion they came to in that study. So, scary stuff.
And then a little while later American researchers expressed concern when they came back here that this so-called level 4 containment facility which was supposed to be the most secure infectious disease containment facility possible, was not as secure as people thought it was, and in fact some of the Chinese scientists were worried about it too, they'd asked for some help, and there was alarm expressed. This is quite a while ago, a year or so ago. So there was already a worry about this lab. And therefore it is possible that a virus could have escaped.
However, on our sister show, the Health Report, my show on a Monday night which you can get by downloading the podcast from wherever you get your podcasts, a week or so ago I ran an interview, a follow-up interview, with a phylogeneticist. So this is somebody who studies the family tree of the virus and looks at the mutations over time and traces back a virus to its origins. And he argues that it's highly unlikely that it came from the lab because when you look at its providence, where it came from, you can actually trace it back in the horseshoe bat up to 50 years ago into the 20th century, and trace the evolution of the coronavirus through to where it is now. Add it's a different genetic structure from the viruses that they were manipulating in the lab. So he's not saying it's impossible, but on the balance of probability very unlikely. He said that if you were manipulating a virus in the lab for pandemic potential, this isn't the virus you would have actually worked on.
And this probably goes along with why the security organisations in the United States are not necessarily backing the Trump administration on this, is that the balance of likelihood is that it's low that it came from the Chinese lab.
Tegan Taylor: Because one of the ways we can figure out how old viruses are is by looking at the mutations that happen in them. Because it's a bit like a clock, you can look back in time by looking at the mutations. Is that what they would have done to figure out whether this was related or not?
Norman Swan: Yes, that's right, it's exactly like a clock, and you can check, every time the virus replicates a little error comes in and the error doesn't really mean very much except that it is, as you say, a marker of time. But you can follow the basic genetic structure of the virus and look at its relatives. So Tegan, you look similar to your grandma and what have you, and if you look at your genes, you can actually track your genes back through the generations to your grandma and grandpa and wherever they came from, and similarly with the virus, you can find out where it came from. And where it came from is the Hubei province in Wuhan via horseshoe bats. Don't know about the intermediate animal. And those horseshoe bats, the virus can be traced back in them quite a long time.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/progra...ty-coronavirus-escaped-a-chinese-lab/12213540

 

[shaggyballs]

Been following this on Australian broadcaster ABC. Heard this guy, Norman Swan interviewed this morning about the likelihood of Coronavirus being developed and released (by accident) from the Wuhan lab. He sums it up pretty well. Apparently very unlikely that this virus comes from the lab.Here's part of the transcript:

Norman Swan: Hello, this is Coronacast, a podcast all about the coronavirus. I'm physician and journalist Dr Norman Swan.
Tegan Taylor: And I'm health reporter Tegan Taylor. It's Tuesday, 5 May.
So Norman, the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said there is a significant amount of evidence that coronavirus emerged from a Chinese laboratory. Give it to me straight, for real, is there any chance it actually was released on purpose from a Chinese lab?
Norman Swan: Okay, I'll give it to you straight and for real; nobody is too sure, but it's not definitive. It's possible that it did but it's unlikely, so it's a low chance. So here's the story. It's a very big level 4 containment lab in Wuhan. Apparently it's quite close to that wet market that the virus came from but I can't confirm that absolutely. And there has been a history of collaboration between the Americans and the Chinese in this lab and they've been looking at coronaviruses. And in 2015 they published a paper together, an American Chinese paper together, where they had done studies where they had manipulated a coronavirus from a horseshoe bat. We spoke about this a couple of weeks ago on Coronacast. And they showed that this had pandemic potential in an animal model. I think it was a mouse model. And that's the conclusion they came to in that study. So, scary stuff.
And then a little while later American researchers expressed concern when they came back here that this so-called level 4 containment facility which was supposed to be the most secure infectious disease containment facility possible, was not as secure as people thought it was, and in fact some of the Chinese scientists were worried about it too, they'd asked for some help, and there was alarm expressed. This is quite a while ago, a year or so ago. So there was already a worry about this lab. And therefore it is possible that a virus could have escaped.
However, on our sister show, the Health Report, my show on a Monday night which you can get by downloading the podcast from wherever you get your podcasts, a week or so ago I ran an interview, a follow-up interview, with a phylogeneticist. So this is somebody who studies the family tree of the virus and looks at the mutations over time and traces back a virus to its origins. And he argues that it's highly unlikely that it came from the lab because when you look at its providence, where it came from, you can actually trace it back in the horseshoe bat up to 50 years ago into the 20th century, and trace the evolution of the coronavirus through to where it is now. Add it's a different genetic structure from the viruses that they were manipulating in the lab. So he's not saying it's impossible, but on the balance of probability very unlikely. He said that if you were manipulating a virus in the lab for pandemic potential, this isn't the virus you would have actually worked on.
And this probably goes along with why the security organisations in the United States are not necessarily backing the Trump administration on this, is that the balance of likelihood is that it's low that it came from the Chinese lab.
Tegan Taylor: Because one of the ways we can figure out how old viruses are is by looking at the mutations that happen in them. Because it's a bit like a clock, you can look back in time by looking at the mutations. Is that what they would have done to figure out whether this was related or not?
Norman Swan: Yes, that's right, it's exactly like a clock, and you can check, every time the virus replicates a little error comes in and the error doesn't really mean very much except that it is, as you say, a marker of time. But you can follow the basic genetic structure of the virus and look at its relatives. So Tegan, you look similar to your grandma and what have you, and if you look at your genes, you can actually track your genes back through the generations to your grandma and grandpa and wherever they came from, and similarly with the virus, you can find out where it came from. And where it came from is the Hubei province in Wuhan via horseshoe bats. Don't know about the intermediate animal. And those horseshoe bats, the virus can be traced back in them quite a long time.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/progra...ty-coronavirus-escaped-a-chinese-lab/12213540

Not saying your wrong here...
but there are other factors to be considered.

I think the difficult part was the jump to infect humans.
If it mutated naturally it would have taken many steps to get there.
They suggest some of those natural steps are missing.
They don't exist.
So as to jump from one place to the other, missing steps.
Suggesting it may have been grown in a lab.
I hope I said that in a manner that is able to be understood.
The links and testimony is here, somewhere...LOL

 

[troutman]