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Would someone please help .?

Gato420

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I know all cars are now metric ,but in fact I do use SAE tools because they fit and I have them handy .All my drives are in inches or fractions of, evan on my metric socket sets .I have American equipment that is all SAE and it’s not old . Math is math we are only talking mesurments , I doesn’t hurt kids to learn fraction as well . On that I think ill pour another .5 cup of coffee
My spouse went to the deli and asked for a 1/4 # of cheese. The attendant stared at the register for a while and said "I don't have quarter key".
 

Ca++

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What plants were they again? It's page 3 now, I can about remember they are cannabis.

My default is don't bother. I recall fat plants at a few weeks, which doesn't align with a need to elevate PK, or depress everything else, depending on your viewpoint. To me, depressing N in such plants isn't a goal. P tastes bad anyway. It's for seeds. While K is a water regulator with little effect on yield, if any. Buds are green, big bud growth needs N. It doesn't want depressing in the npk ratio.

If you are not feeling confident, don't bother. If later you see signs of them asking for it, then next time you can act proactively. Already you are ignoring Canna's advice, as people using it that way have actually found it to have a negative effect. How good a product can it be.
 

Hiddenjems

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Google:
NASA lost a 125 million Mars orbiter, because they messed up with the imperial system.
Did they learn? No, it was only a year since they lost something in Earth orbit. Again, imperial conversions.

We can't be as dumb as NASA. We have decent buds to grow. This is important stuff.
When you already have that number of calculations to make adding in conversions is just stupid.
 

Dankdad64

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What plants were they again? It's page 3 now, I can about remember they are cannabis.

My default is don't bother. I recall fat plants at a few weeks, which doesn't align with a need to elevate PK, or depress everything else, depending on your viewpoint. To me, depressing N in such plants isn't a goal. P tastes bad anyway. It's for seeds. While K is a water regulator with little effect on yield, if any. Buds are green, big bud growth needs N. It doesn't want depressing in the npk ratio.

If you are not feeling confident, don't bother. If later you see signs of them asking for it, then next time you can act proactively. Already you are ignoring Canna's advice, as people using it that way have actually found it to have a negative effect. How good a product can it be.
 

Dankdad64

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All auto 2 Northern lights 2 Af berry . First autos I tried.
 

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Old Piney

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I can use both too but metric is just far more logica
It depends on what you are doing and what you have available to do it . If your engineering a machine and figuring tolerances and gear ratios and such , I beleave metric is the way to go . But sometimes its more logical to use stadard measurements. Dankdad64 asked how to mix a gallon . You obliged and answered that it would be 1.25 ml . Now I beleave the easiest way to measure that is with 1.25 ml measuring spoon that is also labeled a quarter teaspoon. A quarter teaspoon is actually1.23 ml but hay who’s splitting hairs. If you want to be a purist and use only metric measurements is‘s .33 ml (or more likely 1/3 ml or .333333…….. ml ) per 1 L . 1/3 ml is really small ,far to small for a spoon with surface tension and all . So how do you practically measure it ,count drops ? I like to keep thing simple and easy . Correct Me if I’m wrong but it seems that your going out of your way not to use SAE measurements

 

Ca++

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Hard for me to load pics most of the time. I see the thumbnails though. I would want some confirmation, but they look to be burning a bit, rather than needing K. In coco this might be a sign you need more runoff. It needs measuring. Coco provides so much K itself, that I dropped it from my feed completely, just messing around. The coco still provided lots in my lab tested runoff. From the pointers I have, I wouldn't be adding PK, I would be looking if you actually have too much. The runoff conductivity needs comparing to the feeds, to see if there is a large increase

Or, I just can't see properly.
 

PadawanWarrior

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It depends on what you are doing and what you have available to do it . If your engineering a machine and figuring tolerances and gear ratios and such , I beleave metric is the way to go . But sometimes its more logical to use stadard measurements. Dankdad64 asked how to mix a gallon . You obliged and answered that it would be 1.25 ml . Now I beleave the easiest way to measure that is with 1.25 ml measuring spoon that is also labeled a quarter teaspoon. A quarter teaspoon is actually1.23 ml but hay who’s splitting hairs. If you want to be a purist and use only metric measurements is‘s .33 ml (or more likely 1/3 ml or .333333…….. ml ) per 1 L . 1/3 ml is really small ,far to small for a spoon with surface tension and all . So how do you practically measure it ,count drops ? I like to keep thing simple and easy . Correct Me if I’m wrong but it seems that your going out of your way not to use SAE measurements

About .454 kilograms
 

FTL

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It depends on what you are doing and what you have available to do it . If your engineering a machine and figuring tolerances and gear ratios and such , I beleave metric is the way to go . But sometimes its more logical to use stadard measurements. Dankdad64 asked how to mix a gallon . You obliged and answered that it would be 1.25 ml . Now I beleave the easiest way to measure that is with 1.25 ml measuring spoon that is also labeled a quarter teaspoon. A quarter teaspoon is actually1.23 ml but hay who’s splitting hairs. If you want to be a purist and use only metric measurements is‘s .33 ml (or more likely 1/3 ml or .333333…….. ml ) per 1 L . 1/3 ml is really small ,far to small for a spoon with surface tension and all . So how do you practically measure it ,count drops ? I like to keep thing simple and easy . Correct Me if I’m wrong but it seems that your going out of your way not to use SAE measurements

You are correct sir.

I actually rounded it up to 1.25
You can check the maths yourself you sound more than capable.

Using literal Cups and spoons does make life a lot easier for some aplications . Horses for courses.

As a rule of thumb I will always use less than what the bottle advises for hydroponic products like this.

Edit: used. I no longer use hydro shop products:

Also yeah I am going out of my not to use them..... I’m trying to convert you guys to the world wide(Sans US) standard of measurement.
 
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Ca++

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It depends on what you are doing and what you have available to do it . If your engineering a machine and figuring tolerances and gear ratios and such , I beleave metric is the way to go . But sometimes its more logical to use stadard measurements. Dankdad64 asked how to mix a gallon . You obliged and answered that it would be 1.25 ml . Now I beleave the easiest way to measure that is with 1.25 ml measuring spoon that is also labeled a quarter teaspoon. A quarter teaspoon is actually1.23 ml but hay who’s splitting hairs. If you want to be a purist and use only metric measurements is‘s .33 ml (or more likely 1/3 ml or .333333…….. ml ) per 1 L . 1/3 ml is really small ,far to small for a spoon with surface tension and all . So how do you practically measure it ,count drops ? I like to keep thing simple and easy . Correct Me if I’m wrong but it seems that your going out of your way not to use SAE measurements

I hope he has a syringe or pipettes. Then he can do anything. Not just to the nearest spoon, or fraction of a spoon. 1.25ml in a Gallon, is mixing metric and imperial, because imperial is lacking resolution. It's already half way to standard index units, because that is what works, and it's not gear cutting

 

Old Piney

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An interesting conversion
1 mL = 20 drop
1 drop = 0.05 ml or as a old school veterinarian told me 1 ml = about 2 squirts ( from a dropper bottle ) try counting drops into the mouth of your cat lol
 
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something to consider , the sexagesimal numerical system

been around a long time

For more than 5000 years, the world has committed to one of the significant inventions of the Sumerians, the sexagesimal system.

The sexagesimal system is the notion of neatly dividing time into units of 60.

It was used by the Sumerians as a way of counting and measuring based on the number 60 because it can be divided evenly by many numbers (2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20, and 30).

This numerical system profoundly influenced various aspects of Sumerian life. It was integral in trade, accounting, astronomy, and mathematics.

60 seconds in a minute

24 hours in a day

60 minutes one hour

you get the drift
 

Ca++

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Often wondered about the clock. The calendar is pretty rubbish to. 7 days? No specific length to a month. It's not working for me.

I remember someone asking for a quarter kei once, and then ringing up saying they couldn't get 9 out of it. They had taken 28s from it, all a bit generous to themselves, and fell 2g short. It was meant to be 2g short making 28s from quarter kei. They couldn't understand why I went straight over with a quarter. There extra 5.5g because an oz is 28.35 and a gram or so to show I was more interested in calling them muppets than coming in light.
I have no doubt they went around the 9 taking the 0.35 out of each after I left. 28g is established, from people splitting the metric 250 into 9oz of 28g, that all come in about 0.25 light. It's that constant fudging of the numbers, to try and use two different measurement systems.

These days they are all 29+ and come in packs of 10. No 9 bars. Nobody wants to do the maths. It's refreshing. While half a bar is just a useless exercise that no longer exists. It's 5. Take the price of 1, x10 /2 = price of 5. WTF is 4+1/2 about. Do they need loose change for the bus
 
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