Worried about loosing my plant - First time DWC asks for help

[exploziv]

Depending on how much PH fluctuation you got, they may have troubles absorbing P and Mg, if you look at the graphs I added. So maybe try to keep it as much as you can around PH5.8. Starting at 5.4 might be too low if you rePH it too often. I would personally set it at 5.8 or just a bit lower than that and reph it again when needed, so they can absorb all nutes and get healthy faster. So maybe it's more P def than Ca def in your case. Along with Mg def.

 

[Evell1950]

Depending on how much PH fluctuation you got, they may have troubles absorbing P and Mg, if you look at the graphs I added. So maybe try to keep it as much as you can around PH5.8. Starting at 5.4 might be too low if you rePH it too often. I would personally set it at 5.8 or just a bit lower than that and reph it again when needed, so they can absorb all nutes and get healthy faster. So maybe it's more P def than Ca def in your case. Along with Mg def.

ok i see.. i have let the PH drift up from about 5.4 to 6.0 in 7 to 10 days like curtis recommended... will check her more now and feeding her CALMAG foliar well see whats going on soon. Thanks a lot!

 

[Lester Beans]

Sounds good you are moving in the right direction! Nice work! You should see some positive results soon!

 

[Evell1950]

Sounds good you are moving in the right direction! Nice work! You should see some positive results soon!

Thanks for the positive words and the possible outcoome! Very uplifting... thanks a lot!

 

[Evell1950]

Lol I have to change each and everyone of you! I think I've managed my problem now. I was thinking about it lot and was integrating what all of you said and basically my plant got stressed and fucked with from the beginning... its a miracle she is still alive lol...

Now after examinig possible problems and tweaking the whole environment I think I was able to revive her (thanks to u guys obviously!).

She got stressed to the point where she stopped doing anything anymore because she's so exhausted... in theorie most of my values and measurements were perfect... but in reality it wasnt a good environment right now even if all the values were matching... there were some problems still occuring. Every problems stressed her a little and this way she got fucked up by a lot of small problems not even noticing...

Anyway... within some hours after changing the whole environment the plant starts to thrive again... all leave start to reach in the sky instead of beeing droopy all the time... also the plant tries to take up more space not as crowded as before... leaves already grew like crazy in just some hours... remember she was stunt for a very long time now and she is now multiple weeks old but still very small for that age... so its impressive that she made it this far lol

She really looks like recovering now big time! even for a newb like me... she is not droopt at all anymore... she has a nice stand and is reachign up in the sky and looks like a very happy plant... if u forget the deficiency on those leaves u would think that plant never had a problem lol....

For real thanks a lot guys!! Will update more while going on with this ladie... even if everything is fine... maybe somone is interested in some updates

 

[Evell1950]

"I have to change each and everyone of you!" i mean I have to THANK each and everyone of you!

 

[exploziv]

That's a long post just to say thank you. What did you change? It may help others!!
Glad you plant is doing better, tho!

 

[Evell1950]

That's a long post just to say thank you. What did you change? It may help others!!
Glad you plant is doing better, tho!

Yes it was lol - U can see I was very happy to finnaly see her revive... It was weeks on end no changes... but finally she likes her environment now!

I did a lot like higher RH and higher Temps... also foliar feeding but not too much... and finally I stopped using that much power as You, Dr. young, fat freddy and so on told me to! And now I can understand what was going on... First of all the environment wasnt the best regarding RH, Temps, and so on... but I was using a Light which is good enough to power a whole 4x4 or 5x5 full of plants and I was using it at 70% Power and in a tent as small as 2x2 so i was using about 500W per square meter or something like that... A LOT based on u guys... so I've changed the power WAY down... to about 20-25%.... now she is thriving!!

THANKS TO ALL OF U!!! Will update even more as things move on And fore sure thanks to ALL of the guys that helped me in IC-Chat!

Environment:

Lights 25% Power
RH 75% min.
AirTemp 30C
EC 1.37 (it raised over night.. maybe too high right now... will check how that goes the next days...)
PH 5.66 (still raisind as it should be changed Rez about 3-4 days ago and set it at PH 5.4 so its raising slowly as it should)

It's war warmer now and a lot more moisture in the air... before there was too much AirExchange and we have winter so constantly cold dry air... that was messing with her too... So she was drying out too fast and lights were to intensive and so on... stressed from day 1 ... but finally I understand... I wasn't messing with her before as u said but no change... but now after slowing down even the equipment everything is back up... Never thought there was a thing like "too much light" but damn there is a thing as "too much light" and here is the proof... As soon as lights went down she instanly tried to recover... That light was OVERKILL for that little plant and tent LOL!

For all of you who want to see pictures... here they are... damn I'm in love how fast she recovered! Was looking at her for weeks without changes... now overnight she went off like crazy!! She is finally praying to the "sun" again! I'm in love wow lol

If you compare the photos with post #24 (https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...ime-dwc-asks-for-help?p=18007760#post18007760) u'll definetily see a big change in how she looks in just 24h! And I was changing the environment about 18 hours ago so in Post #24 are pictures some hours before the change!

Plant top:

Plant front:

Plant roots:

 

[exploziv]

With less light you may also need to lower that EC.. or you might find some burns soon.

 

[Evell1950]

With less light you may also need to lower that EC.. or you might find some burns soon.

thats what i think too!! Since EC has risen over night from EC 1.2 to EC 1.36... so it looks like she is drinking more water than nutes... I'll check in the afternoon/tomorrow morning and if it's still raising I'll lower it instnantly! Maybe to about EC 0.8/0.9 or even lower... what do u think?

 

[Evell1950]

How to find the perfect Light power? Since I don't want to go over board and I also don't want to to give not enough light how can I find the sweet spot? Like if it's too low she will stretch too much and if it's too high she will droop? Or are there other signs to look for? Now she likes it but what if she is bigger or flowering... how to know how much light she needs by then?

 

[Evell1950]

For example you told me to use about 200-250W per square meter... I used that to calculate the power percentage I have to use... What are the numbers for seedlings... flowering... and so on? Do u understand what I mean?

 

[exploziv]

I would stay under 300W/sq meter until you see fast and healthy new growth. Then slowly up it like once aweek or so. I like to raise the light about 10% per week and then looking at the plants I can see easily if I can push them more or not. Mg defs are usually the first that appear under too intense leds, and those can be also fixed fast and easy if you notice them in time. So go slow and watch the plant.
As I told you before I haven't done hydro so I can't tell you more about the right EC. But it does sound heavy feed to me and for sure the fact it has risen means the plant would benefit from it being lower, at least till it fully recovers.

 

[Evell1950]

Having in mind that LED Plants are CALMAG hungry what would you do? I want to lower the EC by adding distilled water. Would you just add distilled water or would you add distilled water WITH CalMag added to it so to not dilute the calmag... just diluting the other nutrients... what do u think... or just use 50% CalMag for refill water... what would be best in my case based on what u know right now?

 

[exploziv]

More cal mag would be ok, but more important right now is to lower EC. So don't add too much of it.

 

[Evell1950]

Ok so I've lowered the EC to about 0.8 now... I will see how that goes... if it raises again I'll lower again otherwise im good!

 

[exploziv]

That should be good for a while, don't worry too much. Just look at the plants. They will tell you what they need. Then it's up to you to put those signs togheter and come with a solution for the problem.

 

[Evell1950]

That should be good for a while, don't worry too much. Just look at the plants. They will tell you what they need. Then it's up to you to put those signs togheter and come with a solution for the problem.

Ok I will watch her closely... before I've watched her too and intsanly saw something was wrong but I couldn't tell what... I tried a lot of things before even registering and asking for your help... Now I see what was wrong... and all of you gave me a lot of nice input on what to research and going thru all your old posts also helped to get even more understanding on how to aproach things.... That really helps a lot now I don't only see when she is bad but I can also tweak more of the environment since I know a lot more about that now...

Now it's easier to connect the dots! THANKS!!!

To be continued...