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Will they find the plane?
- Thread starter GonBush
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holy hell.
did those muslim nations steal those?
that's your guess...
did those muslim nations steal those?
that's your guess...
im sure before 9/11 no one here thought that terrorists would steal passenger airlines and crash them into the twin towers so anything is possible in this world. greed and power the fight for so called freedom will push people to do anything.
most terrorists don't want to end the world why would they want to go nuclear, they want recognition of there plight against the oppression of the invading country and to get the invaders out of their country.
how many terrorists do you guys know personally ?
most terrorists don't want to end the world why would they want to go nuclear, they want recognition of there plight against the oppression of the invading country and to get the invaders out of their country.
how many terrorists do you guys know personally ?
Just because no debris has been found on the surface doesn't mean the plane wasn't ditched into the Indian Ocean.
Finding a couple floating cushions from the air in the middle of the ocean is a near impossible task.
There have been many instances where military aircraft have crashed into the ocean, search and recovery teams knew the point of impact and still didn't find a single piece of floating debris.
Here, the team has no real precise location. I wouldn't expect them to find anything on the surface. Anyone who has spent anytime on the water, especially in the ocean, understands how incredibly difficult this.
I hope the pings are from the plane and that they can recover something so the families can have closure.
I don't believe the Malaysian's inconsistent reports are proof of conspiracy either, but rather incompetence. I lived in South East Asia for a number of years. This is par for the course for them and surrounding countries.
If it is conspiracy I'm leaning towards CNN. There non-stop nauseating speculation of what happened is either a sign of a "news" (I use that term very very loosely) organization in it's desperate death throws or they crashed plane for a rating boost because they are in their death throws.
The way this story has been covered highlights all that is wrong with the propaganda networks in this country. Aside from them all being propaganda networks that is.
Finding a couple floating cushions from the air in the middle of the ocean is a near impossible task.
There have been many instances where military aircraft have crashed into the ocean, search and recovery teams knew the point of impact and still didn't find a single piece of floating debris.
Here, the team has no real precise location. I wouldn't expect them to find anything on the surface. Anyone who has spent anytime on the water, especially in the ocean, understands how incredibly difficult this.
I hope the pings are from the plane and that they can recover something so the families can have closure.
I don't believe the Malaysian's inconsistent reports are proof of conspiracy either, but rather incompetence. I lived in South East Asia for a number of years. This is par for the course for them and surrounding countries.
If it is conspiracy I'm leaning towards CNN. There non-stop nauseating speculation of what happened is either a sign of a "news" (I use that term very very loosely) organization in it's desperate death throws or they crashed plane for a rating boost because they are in their death throws.
The way this story has been covered highlights all that is wrong with the propaganda networks in this country. Aside from them all being propaganda networks that is.
Natural news as a source of reliable information?
That's a common misconception, many conspiracy theorists seem to have the opinion that anyone calling them a conspiracy theorist means it in the worst way possible, that they are crazy. A conspiracy theorist simply is a person who has a theory about a conspiracy. Sometimes conspiracy theorists are correct. For example SpasticGramps has in the past stated conspiracy theories about what the Fed under Berneke was doing and he has been proven to be spot on. However since he had no proof of his belief at the time it was in fact a theory of a conspiracy. So it would have been fair and accurate to call him a conspiracy theorist at that time. Unfortunately for conspiracy theorists people like SpasticGramps are the exception and not the rule. Many conspiracy theorists are way off the mark and make outlandish claims that typically prove to be way wrong. Another example from here, although I don't remember the person's name was someone talking as if they had secret knowledge of a conspiracy theory to shut down the power grid back around November or December of last year as a test to see how people would react to such a crisis, well of course it never happened and because the person stated it as if it was known fact that person ended up looking completely crazy. It's these people that give the label Conspiracy Theorist a bad name and so I completely understand why many Conspiracy Theorists cringe when they hear the term thrown out but what else are you going to call someone stating a theory about a conspiracy? To expect everyone else to call Conspiracy Theorists something else because some have given the label a bad reputation is about as silly as insisting that on Christmas Day people should wish one another Happy Holidays rather then Merry Christmas so as to not offend people who don't celebrate Christmas.
I say that rather then that, people who do have Conspiracy theories, that wish to be taken seriously, should police themselves. Much like how many non Muslims expect the Muslim community to take a firm stance denouncing the beliefs and actions of Islamic Extremists. In other words it would do the serious and thoughtful Conspiracy Theorist a lot of good to be critical of other Conspiracy Theorists who spout off outlandish theories based on illogical and irrational conclusions rather then seeing them as kindred spirits needing support because they feel it's everyone else against any and all Conspiracy Theorists.
As for Conspiracies in general I think it's a wrong conclusion to believe that a person discrediting a particular Conspiracy Theory believes that no conspiracy happens. Any thoughtful person with a reasonable grasp of history knows that conspiracies are real and do happen. Hell the history of why marijuana is illegal is a well established conspiracy involving the government and people like William Randolph Hearst and Andrew Mellon, both of whom were heavily invested in industries that would have been threatened had marijuana remained legal and people discovered and developed all the potential uses of the marijuana/Hemp plant. So nobody on this site should ever think conspiracies aren't real because the very thing that unites us (Marijuana Prohibition) is a conspiracy.
how grand!
perhaps the ones using 'conspiracy theorist' in a condescending and derogatory manner should wash their mouths out with a revolver.
late to the party hank.
perhaps the ones using 'conspiracy theorist' in a condescending and derogatory manner should wash their mouths out with a revolver.
late to the party hank.
This is interesting. I'll test it this week
Or perhaps the ones trying to fancy themselves poor misunderstoond victims by reading meaning usually only implied by spoken word into written word on the internet should clean their ears out with a revolver.
I'm from Missouri.
Hahaha ^^^
its now just one more piece of trash in the ocean... all their finding is we have really polluted the ocean.....plastic everywhere....they might find the lockness monster or a mermaid tho
Where Does the Expression “I’m From Missouri; You’ve Got to Show Me” Originate and What Does It Mean?
Colonel William D. Vandiver, representative in Congress from Missouri from 1897 to 1905, is often said to have originated the expression “I’m from Missouri; you’ve got to show me”, though he never claimed that distinction, nor does the evidence bear it out.
However, he did use it in the course of a jocular informal speech before The Five O’clock Club of Philadelphia in 1899.
The preceding speaker, Congressman John A. T. Hull, of Iowa, had twitted Vandiver for being the only guest not in evening clothes. The fact was that neither guest, being on a naval inspection trip, had brought dress clothes, but Hull had somehow managed to obtain them.
In Vandiver’s reply, according to his own statement, as reported in Mencken’s Supplement Two: The American Language, he said:
He tells you that the tailors, finding he was here without dress suit, made one for him in fifteen minutes. I have a different explanation: you heard him say he came here without one, and you see him now with one that doesn’t fit him. The explanation is that he stole mine, and that’s why you see him with one on and me without any. This story from Iowa doesn’t go with me. I’m from Missouri, and you’ll have to show me.
But Paul I. Wellman, in an article that first appeared in the Kansas City Times (reprinted July 11, 1941, in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch), reported other and earlier claims.
One was that made by General Emmett Newton, who said that he had coined it when, as a boy, he had accompanied his father to a Knights Templar convention in Denver in 1892.
Boylike he made a collection of badges.
Another collecter said, “I’ll bet I have a better collection.” To which the young Newton replied, “I’m from Missouri; you’ll have to show me.”
Another report, made originally by W. M. Ledbetter in the St. Louis Star and quoted in The Literary Digest, January 28, 1922, was that the reporter had first heard the phrase in Denver in 1897 or 1898, and upon further investigation found that it, had originated in the mining town of Leadville, Colorado, where a strike had been in progress for a long time, and a number of miners from the zinc and lead district of Southwest Missouri had been imported. . . . These Joplin miners were unfamiliar with (mining practice in Leadville). . . . In fact, the pit bosses were constantly using the expression, “That man is from Missouri, you’ll have to show him.”
This report was later confirmed in a letter to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 14, 1941, by Joseph P. Gazzam, who had been a mine superintendent in Leadville during that strike in 1896, and who had personally used the expression at the time.
But Wellman also reports a much earlier claim, made by Dr. Walter B. Stevens, author of A Colonial History of Missouri (1921):
An officer of a Northern army (during the Civil War) fell upon a body of Confederate troops commanded by a Missourian. The Northerner demanded a surrender, saying he had so many thousand men in his command. The Confederate commander, game to the core, said he didn’t believe the Northerner’s boast of numerical superiority, and appended the now famous expression, “I’m from Missouri; you’ll have to show me.”
So you don't believe conspiracy theories without seeing the proof ?
By that token you don't agree we went to the moon without going there to see the lander
Or that the earth is a sphere without travelling around it
Don't believe the holocaust happened without being there
You wont believe the plane is not at Garcia without personally inspecting the island
If you have to see or touch something to believe in it , I guess you don't believe in very much at all.
By that token you don't agree we went to the moon without going there to see the lander
Or that the earth is a sphere without travelling around it
Don't believe the holocaust happened without being there
You wont believe the plane is not at Garcia without personally inspecting the island
If you have to see or touch something to believe in it , I guess you don't believe in very much at all.
