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Why don't you like Ron Paul?

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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i like Ron Paul because he recognizes the the destructive path we are being lead down and has common sense ideas about reversing that trend.

Obama has shown little regard for individual or collective rights.

Romney is just Obammma in whiteface.
 

Jim Rockford

Well-known member
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I like his view on the war on drugs, as far as taking money back to trading gold please, give me a break. Every single website in America would be shut down, you could only buy things with real metal.

Also the fact he brings his religion into politics way too much for me.
 

DIDM

Malaika
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I like the fact 2 fanboys dislike my comment, yet they can't put words together to discredit what I said


Ron Paul fails for the last time. At least this dead horse can finally stop being beaten


His biggest mistake is separating himself from his party, political suicide from the start. Plus he is a religious nutjob, which only hurts you in these modern times


I'm not even gonna bother in this election, we are not gonna be happy either way, it's not even the better of two evils, it's just bull shit vs cow shit
 
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SeaMaiden

it appears you are so angry at men that you have missed the point.
Really? That's all you got from my post? Pity.
...and you make assumptions that only serve to illuminate your bias.
And you don't, and haven't? How's that misogyny workin' out for ya?
if we assume, for the sake of argument, that ALL men are as irresponsible as you suggest, does that absolve YOU of YOUR responsibilities? ...i think not.
*My* responsibilities...? You mean like not only raising the boys that I had, but taking responsibility for the children of others? I mean, that IS the talk you're talking here, but you haven't exactly taken it to practice. You're only interested in your own children.
...and just so you know, i am a single father with 3 children that i have raised for the last 10 years on my own, and 2 of the 3 are girls, so i know a little something about uncomfortable and inconvenient responsibility.
That's wonderful for you and for them. What about the others? I find myself curious, but only mildly, because you jump to some incredible assumptions further on in your post, none of which serve to change this woman's mind. This woman who's put her money where her mouth is.
...why is it so much to ask that while you exercise your right to wantonly fuck your brains out that you also remember to take precautions to prevent any unwanted pregnancy's or, failing that, that you take responsibility for your mistake and don't expect an innocent life to pay the ultimate price so you can continue your debauchery.
Pardon me. Your misogyny is really showing here. Kill it while it's a zygote.
...your RIGHTS shouldn't supercede the rights of the life you so irresponsibily created.
Again, what? KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE. Rights of a zygote, a clump of cells that are completely indistinguishable from other organisms until it's almost into the 2nd trimester...? Fascinating concept. No money, though, just mouth.
...and if you think that that means that i don't hold men to the same standard then you are just a fool.

AD
Is this how you win people over? With that charm? I say again, KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE.
...oh yeah, just so you know, fuck religion, this is decidedly NOT theocratic thinking, just plain old logic and a firm sense of right and wrong, ...something you should cultivate.
Bullshit. You have your morals and standards and they are firmly based in Judeo-Christian thinking. I won't go on except to say....




KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE. :tiphat:
 

TripleDraw27

Active member
Veteran
Why don't I like Ron Paul? Cause he is so old, that he has almost gone full circle and soon will be a Zygote again. :biggrin:
 

Hazed

Member
I like Ron Paul! Don't care for his outlook on the environment, but he definitely has many other redeeming qualities.
I won't vote for him, because I dont think he has a chance at winning, so would be a "Null" vote.
Wouldnt be suprised to find out the republicans are simply using Paul to split the vote of the Sane middle!
I have a positive attitude about everything but politics (we are fkd), and the really shitty people we have to choose from. If people ever decide to make a stand, and reclaim our future, I will be there! Otherwise its Bamma baby, he is least likely to try to take my weed away, and dont seem to give a damned about my guns!
Also seems to be willing to atleast try to make some changes in the way Gov/thieves conduct themselves.
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

Kush, Sour Diesel, Puday boys
Veteran
Backpedaling?

No. YOU carry the God damned parasite to term. How insulting it is to be the female being lectured by the man, who only has to dip his wick and off he goes on his merry way.

How about HIS responsibility, eh?

We no longer need to populate the earth, it's well-populated already.


KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE!

This is some of the most disgusting ignorant shit I've ever read on this site in six years.


and thats from someone who is pro-choice.


PROUD DAD.
 
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guest86120975

I've come to realize that RP is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Think about it. He takes a few great ideas that will rally young people (usually liberal) and sucks them into being indoctrinated with looney right wing ideas. Now that he didn't have the balls to go 3rd party, plus the fact that his idiot son kissed the neocon ring by endorsing ROmney......I've washed my hands of him.
 
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SeaMaiden

I haven't been able to stomach Rand for some time now, though I admit it comes as a surprise that he's endorsing Mitt. Either way, I examined the issue of RP and compared him to my roots, to my ideals and convictions and decided that I'm not donning the Republican shirt just to vote for him. So, I kept on my Libertarian shirt and voted for Gary Johnson, who is actually much more in line with my thinking than RP, by a long shot.

This is some of the most disgusting ignorant shit I've ever read on this site in six years.


and thats from someone who is pro-choice.


PROUD DAD.

Yeah? So, can I assume you've raised your own kids, then? How about someone else's? Once you start taking a hand and responsibility for raising other people's kids, your perspective might change.

Once again, the lesson here is $$$ = mouth. Put them together.
 

FatBoi

New member
I hate how he talks. That high pitch voice is horrible and he just rambles and rambles. Love most of his views though and he's done some great work.
 

Bennyweed1

Active member
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I haven't read a credible issue aside main stream media slanders that you hear over and over because it is "what the TV said".

I personally do not care who people like but it is annoying when all the facts brought up are pretty up in line with what your told to believe about the guy.

Its like how people still consider Obama a Democrat when he has spent more on war and killing than any other President in the history of America. Why is this, because that is what you're told. Some people are still caught up and the lights, glamour and celebrity status the guy was built on.

Go ahead and like him though, its your free choice. To me though its like accepting to go through with Chemo and radiation. Your just getting the same old thing that has been being used for the last 35+ years. It doesn't work for shit but you do it because its all you have to believe in. Simpletons I tell you.
 

Bennyweed1

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And about the pro choice thing from above. I dont know what to say about that. I personally do not care what people do with their unborn, its there choice and government needs to stay out of it.

To force the idea of killing ZYGOTES is just terrible. You could have raised 200 kids, again I dont care. The point of the matter is YOU made some piss pour choices and inadvertently destroyed your own life.

A man can just "dip his wick" and leave? Again, I am sorry you choose to project yourself in that manner to allow men to "just dip their wicks and leave" but again that is your own piss pour choice.

You can have all the regulation in the world or none but without personally responsibility you will have neither. By allowing "men to dip their wicks and leave" is your own damn fault whether you want to believe it or not.

You must have some self respect about your self. I'm sorry that nature chose to give only Women the reproductive ability but that is just the way it is.

Again though, you can blame men for all your problems, it will do nothing until you address the fact you made some horrible choices.

I just cannot get passed the "Dip their wicks and leave". What the hell did you expect? Thank you cards full over money or something? Cookie doesnt crumble that way.

Being pro choice or pro life doesnt change a damn thing, people are going to do what they need or have to do. Its our nature.

Its like saying people won't smoke Marijuana if is illegal. Or blaming the police officer for arresting you after "he/she dips their cuffs on you and leaves" because you chose to grow it.

Blaming other people is only the symptom while the root cause is never addressed and that is piss pour decision making.
 
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SeaMaiden

I'm sorry that bothers you. What's a little concerning for me is how men continue to make the assumption that I personally am popping out a whole bunch of kids, while at the same time advocating for abortion at as early as stage as possible, especially with regard to parents who are unable or unfit to care for children.

However, I'm nowhere nearly as sorry about all that as I am for the children whose parents "don't believe in abortion" yet abandon them. And the thing is, it happens all the time and it's most often the father who abandons.

Have any of you had any experience with severe post-partum depression? I have experience with it, not myself but through others. And what's really interesting are the theories as to why it's triggered. The soundest, most sensible theory I've read is that during pregnancy the mother must feel as though she is cared for and has others to fall back on. This makes sense when one considers just how expensive (not in the financial sense, in the time and energy sense) raising human young is, especially if you look back upon us through the ages. It all makes sense.

What I see happening here is a view through western Judeo-Christian eyes and morals, and the belief that those morals simply must ring true throughout all humanity and cultures. This is not the case.

Either way, please, stop yourself from making assumptions about a person's personal life based on their beliefs. And, put your money where your mouth is.

:)
 
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toughmudderdave

I stand with my wife (Seamaiden) on this issue...And I happen to be a Ron Paul supporter.
 

monkey5

Active member
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toughmudderdave, Nice! Good company to be in too! Seamaiden is good people..so is Dr. Ron Paul! Peace that we need! monkey5
 

DIDM

Malaika
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monkey, NONONONO


He is a religious nutjob who says religion and state should be as one



fuck him, he is batshit crazy
 
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trem0lo

I see there are plenty of misconceptions about Ron Paul.

I don't regard him as a religious nutjob. I think that's going a little far. He is a Christian, but he is humble about it and doesn't use it to get votes. I can respect that.
 

dagnabit

Game Bred
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monkey, NONONONO


He is a religious nutjob who says religion and state should be as one



fuck him, he is batshit crazy

what votes or policies in his vast history in congress have shown he is a nutjob?

how has he used his office to push for a state sponsored church?

what church has the doctor voted to become the state church?

just curious
 

GetUpStandUp

Active member
I want to know reason, without this turning into a pissing "Paultard" contest. Keep it clean, on point, and above all, factual and opinion free.

Whatever point your bring up why you dislike Ron Paul; you then have to list a counter proactive point why his opponents have a better way of doing it.

Example:

I dont like Ron Paul because he wants to end the Federal Reserve.

I like Mitt Romney because he has no plans what so ever to reduce our 16 trillion dollar deficit.

That is what Im looking for.

Example not what to do:

I dont like Ron Paul because he is old.

I like Barack Obama because he is black.

Let me hear what you got...and please keep it factual and opinion free!
Hey thanks for being clear, but as I sit and ponder how to say what I feel by staying within your guidlines, it seems hard, hope you will accept it, as it purtains to your goal of knowing how ppl view him. Sorry if its not what is sought after.

First reason why I dont like Paul is he believes, 911 was terroist, and ignores the millions of Americans who not only died for saying so, but continue to have the facts ingored of it endeed being a inside job.

Second reason, I find it odd, as I do every election, it almost like watching reruns of old shows, but every election there seems to be this prestine image, and person who just seems to overwhelm the competition appearing to be almost too perfect everytime. I find it odd Grinrich, and Santorum blattenly evil scums even ran with their obvious ties, maybe to raise the bar for being a douch, so the smaller douch dont seem that bad?

He is funded from a different kind of source, which is unheard of, and seem to convienent for a independant person to make it thus far without a peep from the left, or right side!

Third most important reason I wont pick Paul, or any other polititian until they at the very least voice to address the pediphilia going on in our government seats, as well as in society, and addressing medical marijuana facts to push for total decriminalization! Most polititians know kids are abused, and rings are found in almost every countries govt. So to act like it doesnt, or even not at the least say something just shows he wont step on bigger fish toes, even if they like screwing kids! No politician will speak a word on MJ, or MMJ unless it benifits them directly, they fact no one has said a word of the million of possitive benifits from MJ to pick from, means also will not step on a systems toes who made all these things so, so in turn he(paul) or anyone else will be as good as a fresh hot bag of shite to me!

Just saying!

But hope I made a difference in looking at this thing we call election, plus ppl, we have no vote, its up to the electoral college now, your vote gets legislation in to be the ones to vote, so you must ask what person is current legislation put in place? Plus our popular vote just gets each states electoral reps no further than that, so to say any vote we have will change anything is false, as we are past any point to put someone we would like, if indeed the last two ppl to be picked are not what we want.

As my duty being American, I have to at least inform my peers of the fact, and its the Sandusky case! You all are believing its isolated, but indeed he has rubbed elbows with many politicos as Santorum left out the race for just this reason, not because he got beat! Of coarse it can be looked at as conspiracy, but I must remind you of your duty to investigate this on all ppl running, and thier connections to Franklin cover up, Boys Town, Duetroux case in Belgium, and many others! Good luck-And If I were to Vote I vote for REVOLUTION!:tiphat:
 

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