Why does cannabis produce resin?

[David762]

I'd put my money on that too!

I'd put my money on that too!

I'd put money on it being the smell

It would also seem likely that ancient man more likely ingested cannabis flowers rather than smoking them, at least initially. And then discovered the myriad other fine qualities of the plant: oil from the seeds, bundled thatch for construction, smoking the dried flowers, and then paper & cloth, etcetera.

I believe it was no coincidence that shortly after Henry Ford revealed his "hemp automobile" that cannabis became Federally prohibited.

http://www.hempcar.org/ford.shtml

Then again, when it comes to economic conspiracies, I am rarely inclined to attribute causality to mere coincidence.

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

Do you really think that indoor lights have higher lumen's then the sun?
-SamS

I saw that too and was going to let it slide. Your question was rhetorical imho so I'll just say: no way! Plus you can blackbox greenhouse it and have the benefits of both natural light and control.

Seems to me that there are multiple answers to this thread's original question. Nature and genetics are complex and cannabis resin may have multiple purposes, all of importance. I know for a fact that I am thankful.

Sam, you said earlier that you only smoke resin. Resin = hash, right? Are you able to make educated guesses, using the color/texture/smell of the resin, as to what the high will be like? I only ask because I notice hash color, smell, and texture to be widely varying, but within individual varieties to be remarkably similar.

 

[Tom Hill]

Do you really think that indoor lights have higher lumen's then the sun?
-SamS

Depends I reckon?

Eg, there is no way that indoor can keep up with a mid-summer blackbox @40north. On the other hand, maturing Haze etc under glass @40n in Dec under the 10hr regimen of extremely weakened early winter light (due to horizontal approach - extremely weakened by atmospheric layers etc + glass), can't keep up w/12+ hrs of 1000w+ either, ime. -T

 

[mrwags]

Many have thought long ago in a far off land there is a fish that excretes an enzyme for protection from other fish and one day a bird swooped down and grabbed one of these fishy's and landed and ate it in a cannabis tree's.

Well some of these enzymes dropped from the fish onto the plant and the plant realized it could use this enzyme to protect itself from the heat and the cold (the elements) and make itself distasteful to many of it's predators and over the years and in a few million years we now have BUD. lol.

It started with a fish?

Does make you wonder but yes it is a defense of the plant from the elements.


My Penny
Mr.Wags

 

[dmt]

self preservation, d

 

[jeffie]

tis for us humans we nurture a seed protect it water and feed collect of its fragrance
and we're like gods really tis so sweet

 

[Easygrowing]

If it not for collect pollen from the males-how in the cave-should those MJ plants-
so could survive ? others naturally gardenplants-also catch pollen-with a kind of nectar,
The plant did not know-it could get people stoned-high for god sake..
IF it was for procecting for those UV and so on-they did not all outdoorsplants-making
resin ..come on -it,s so simple-isen,t it...How should they otherwise spread them even..
allover..

 

[Microbeman]

I saw that too and was going to let it slide. Your question was rhetorical imho so I'll just say: no way! Plus you can blackbox greenhouse it and have the benefits of both natural light and control.

Seems to me that there are multiple answers to this thread's original question. Nature and genetics are complex and cannabis resin may have multiple purposes, all of importance. I know for a fact that I am thankful.

Sam, you said earlier that you only smoke resin. Resin = hash, right? Are you able to make educated guesses, using the color/texture/smell of the resin, as to what the high will be like? I only ask because I notice hash color, smell, and texture to be widely varying, but within individual varieties to be remarkably similar.

I third that no way. Hey Thom, I love your signature - about medical. Is God Rize?

 

[cheesey]

Why does cannabis produce resin?

well the program on bbc hd said the resin on plants is for catching male polen ......

 

[woolybear]

Why does cannabis produce resin?

well the program on bbc hd said the resin on plants is for catching male polen ......

Lol that was a great special... "The Botany of Desire"...

I thought the old grower couple in it were kind of wierd... lady asks 'did we under-noo-tree-8? or oveerrNOO-tree-ate?'

Lady, its easy, get a ec meter and pay attention to your plants!

Link on pbs.org:

http://www.pbs.org/thebotanyofdesire/cannabis-intoxication.php

Cannabis timeline on same site is interesting if you're blazed at least:

http://www.pbs.org/thebotanyofdesire/map-timeline.php?plant=cannabis

Scythia (Iran), 700 B.C.
Herodotus records the Scythians' practice of inhaling marijuana by burning its buds on red hot rocks in enclosed tents, then sticking in their heads and inhaling the fumes "until they rise up to dance and betake themselves to singing.

The Chinese character for hemp, "Ma," depicts a male stalk and a female stalk hung out to dry.

England, A.D. 400
Although the Romans probably introduced hemp to Britain—remnants of hemp rope have been discovered at ruins dating back to A.D. 140—it appears that regular cultivation starts when Anglo Saxons move into the area in large numbers. Pollen analysis shows widespread cultivation of marijuana around A.D. 400 at Old Buckenham Mere.

 

[PacificNorthWes]

Now why is the sky blue LOL and the earth flat.. JUST IS!!!!!

 

[Arthur Dent.]

Do you really think that indoor lights have higher lumen's then the sun?
-SamS

No but how close can you get the plants to the SUN?

Namaste.

 

[Arthur Dent.]

Do you really think that indoor lights have higher lumen's then the sun?
-SamS

Hey Sam skunk man, another thing to think about when it comes to sunlight is how long the light is directly on the plant and in what kind of climate, but when growing indoors these aspects can be ignored, the sun moves, my lights don't the direct light in a indoor setup utilized by the plant without stimulus means the plant is getting more light.

I obviously know (because of steve hawking) that the sun is very big hot and full of light,but the problem comes in when a huge cumulonimbus rolls over. I like your comment because it was something I did not explain completely.

Namaste

 

[mrwags]

tis for us humans we nurture a seed protect it water and feed collect of its fragrance
and we're like gods really tis so sweet

Don't forget the part where we kill them like a thief in the night chop them up and then smoke and or eat them lol.


Be Well
Mr.Wags

 

[mrwags]

Hey Sam skunk man, another thing to think about when it comes to sunlight is how long the light is directly on the plant and in what kind of climate, but when growing indoors these aspects can be ignored, the sun moves, my lights don't the direct light in a indoor setup utilized by the plant without stimulus means the plant is getting more light.

I obviously know (because of steve hawking) that the sun is very big hot and full of light,but the problem comes in when a huge cumulonimbus rolls over. I like your comment because it was something I did not explain completely.

Namaste

Being a founding member I've been here long enough to say this about that:


Take a look at 2 comparison's one of the perfect INDOOR TREE (A Teresa Tree) and then take a look at a PERFECT OUTDOOR Tree (A Babba Bush or a Tom Hill Bush)you pick and I think you will see a huge contradiction.

In racing we say there is NO REPLACEMENT for DISPLACEMENT and in our case it remains true as well only our DISPLACEMENT is represented by amounts of light produced instead of HP and from what I've seen after all these years is you simply CANNOT beat Mother Sun imo just the way it's suppose to be.


It is amazing to me tho to see what folks can do with indoor lighting. So Quick is SO MISSED and to see buds the size of your leg:



You see that's a bad ass indoor bud right there BUT

Compared to a Babba Bush or Tom's it becomes a lower branch instead of a Main Cola.

I played outside for damn near 20 years b4 I got tired of the BS associated with it. I do ok inside but don't ya know ever so often I find myself sitting in my little boxed in cage and I think to myself about the lion in the zoo. You know what I'm talking about the one that you can tell came in from the wild and no longer has that fire in his eye (trapped) so to speak with him knowing this isn't right I should be outside running free not sitting here in this little cage.

To all of us lions who sit here knowing what I'm talking about our day is coming,Pandora's box has been opened and some of the states have ALREADY taken the first check and money has exchanged hands so therefore it has begun and will only get better from here.


Have A Great Day
Mr.Wags

 

[VerdantGreen]

direct sunlight is 30 000 to 130 000 lux

1000 hps over a meter footprint is about 30 000 lux

VG

 

[lost in a sea]

My theory goes something like this:

I thought Trichomes amplified the suns rays like a magnifying glass?


soooooo... Because MJ makes it far into the rainy/cloudy season before seeds have been completely produced, the Trichomes are there to make sure they get enough photosynthetic energy.

you cant increase the amount of energy being received by magnifying it,, just concentrate into a smaller area,,so the plant would see no advantage,,

Plus, when a nug fattens up, it makes the whole stem droop downwards. This is a protection against Spider Mites, as they like the top most portion of the plant.

this can only be a useful coincidental since it is unlikely the traits for weaker stems were selected for by mites or any insects

Plus, as the nug droops downwards, the seeds it is producing are closer to the earth and ready to begin the overwintering process before germinating.

im not sure how this would get selected for and must be another coincidence at best,,

Finally, sticky resin glands work wonders at trapping small infestations of flies/aphids.



There's my 2cents.

and sunlight will travel through many levels of foliage and still provide energy,,,, the energy from grow lights barely makes it through three sets of leaves,,

 

[molly]

Why does cannabis produce resin?

The most likely reason is that resin production is a vestige from an older lineage that has been exploited through agronomy. The many different secondary metabolites present in cannabis support this theory. While most secondary alkaloid production is herbivore specific, like nicotine or caffeine, the presence of terpenes (non-alkalized compounds associated with broader herbivory effected), suggests at one time cannabis was under a multiple-herbivore threat. e.g. herbivore and/or bacterial and/or fungal and/or etc. Any combination.

Continued production of secondary compounds in native plants is almost always selected for by past or present herbivory. The highest percentage of anti-herbivory compounds are often found on the plants most 'vital' parts. Vital can be any part of the plant. e.g. Tomato leaves are poisonous, tomato berries are not.

Ultraviolet protection is often associated with new shoots in the form of anthocyanin production or trichomes that blanket the cells underneath. Many of the cacti that exhibit UV shielding, such as mammillarias, are found in climates where light is not a limiting reagent, while xerophytic/aerophytic plants like tillandsias that live as epiphytes, use trichomes as a method of collecting moisture from the air. Cannabis lives in neither climate.

• Resin production is anti-herbivory
• Resin cocktail is the result of past herbivory threats
• Resin has nothing to do with UV protection

No sources, and I only read the last page of this thread. Let the flames begin

 

[messn'n'gommin']

Why does cannabis produce resin?

The most likely reason is that resin production is a vestige from an older lineage that has been exploited through agronomy. The many different secondary metabolites present in cannabis support this theory. While most secondary alkaloid production is herbivore specific, like nicotine or caffeine, the presence of terpenes (non-alkalized compounds associated with broader herbivory effected), suggests at one time cannabis was under a multiple-herbivore threat. e.g. herbivore and/or bacterial and/or fungal and/or etc. Any combination.

Continued production of secondary compounds in native plants is almost always selected for by past or present herbivory. The highest percentage of anti-herbivory compounds are often found on the plants most 'vital' parts. Vital can be any part of the plant. e.g. Tomato leaves are poisonous, tomato berries are not.

Ultraviolet protection is often associated with new shoots in the form of anthocyanin production or trichomes that blanket the cells underneath. Many of the cacti that exhibit UV shielding, such as mammillarias, are found in climates where light is not a limiting reagent, while xerophytic/aerophytic plants like tillandsias that live as epiphytes, use trichomes as a method of collecting moisture from the air. Cannabis lives in neither climate.

• Resin production is anti-herbivory
• Resin cocktail is the result of past herbivory threats
• Resin has nothing to do with UV protection

No sources, and I only read the last page of this thread. Let the flames begin

Yes, flavonoids are anti-herbivory (both repellant and insecticidal) in property. They also have anti-pathogen and UV sun-screening properties.

Edit: ...and for anti-dessication.

Essential oil of Cannabis sativa L. strains
http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4208.html

Flavonoids and Isoflavonoids: From Plant Biology to Agriculture and Neuroscience
http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/content/full/154/2/453

No flames, and I only read every page of this thread. Let the sources begin.

 

[ibjamming]

Why does cannabis produce resin?

The most likely reason is that resin production is a vestige from an older lineage that has been exploited through agronomy. The many different secondary metabolites present in cannabis support this theory. While most secondary alkaloid production is herbivore specific, like nicotine or caffeine, the presence of terpenes (non-alkalized compounds associated with broader herbivory effected), suggests at one time cannabis was under a multiple-herbivore threat. e.g. herbivore and/or bacterial and/or fungal and/or etc. Any combination.

Continued production of secondary compounds in native plants is almost always selected for by past or present herbivory. The highest percentage of anti-herbivory compounds are often found on the plants most 'vital' parts. Vital can be any part of the plant. e.g. Tomato leaves are poisonous, tomato berries are not.

Ultraviolet protection is often associated with new shoots in the form of anthocyanin production or trichomes that blanket the cells underneath. Many of the cacti that exhibit UV shielding, such as mammillarias, are found in climates where light is not a limiting reagent, while xerophytic/aerophytic plants like tillandsias that live as epiphytes, use trichomes as a method of collecting moisture from the air. Cannabis lives in neither climate.

• Resin production is anti-herbivory
• Resin cocktail is the result of past herbivory threats
• Resin has nothing to do with UV protection

No sources, and I only read the last page of this thread. Let the flames begin

Yes, flavonoids are anti-herbivory (both repellant and insecticidal) in property. They also have anti-pathogen and UV sun-screening properties.

Edit: ...and for anti-dessication.

Essential oil of Cannabis sativa L. strains
http://www.internationalhempassociation.org/jiha/jiha4208.html

Flavonoids and Isoflavonoids: From Plant Biology to Agriculture and Neuroscience
http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/content/full/154/2/453

No flames, and I only read every page of this thread. Let the sources begin.

Resin serves many purposes...those listed among them. The sticky resin itself is usually a physical deterrent...trapping or fouling mouthparts. The terpines and alkaloids being the chemical defensive constituent...bad taste, unpleasantness after consumption, etc. Concentrations of trichomes around the calyx may also provide anti UV properties.

But I'd tend to agree that it's all there to stop predation of the seed.