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why can I get free needles and get busted for my bong?

Harry Gypsna

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that particular law is to stop scumbags manufacturing meth from it in caravans(trailers for u yanks)
 
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I know it is Harry but my gripe is that the law is affecting ill folks who want to buy cold medicine legitimately and it's not doing shit to stop meth manufacturing....how much meth could one make out of 2, 8 oz bottles of nyquil? I bet it aint much.. How many legit ill people have been told they can't buy more than 1 bottle of cold medicine per month? I bet thousands :bat:
 

mmm420socal

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igohydro said:
People should be more aware,years ago in the Dam youd have to be pretty fuckin sure the bongs in coffee shops were clean.Ive set in many watching tha one bong being used again and again without ever being cleaned.
As smokers we can pass on infection through hairline cracks on our lips,things aint got much better while im sure some shops clean bongs after every use.Very good Verite,N/A you can have a nice ring especially made with the N/A symbol.Dont know about other countries but youve to be clean for years here before you can have one.Ive been clean for over seven years,not that proud of it,N/A wasn't for me.Weed was.
Budsbuddy, the reason is so "they" can identify users aswell.Your bong aint seen as a cleaner way.Ive never seen a filter in a bong,apart from cooling aids that is.Hypocrisy is the gratest luxury.

You should go to The Vapor Room in Frisco... yack, it was the same way...bongs with water that was obviously weeks old, no one cleaning shit... yeck.


I brought my own pipe :)


M3
 

mmm420socal

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illuminatus said:
They shouldn't hand out needles to druggies or to stop the spread of aids, complete waste of tax-payer money.. aids is here for a reason. TO KILL HEATHENS. I never have used a needle on myself and only plan to have sex with someone I love and marry, -after blood tests. There is almost no possible way a person with morals can catch aids. Obviously there are the rare cases of blah blah blah transfusions blah blah blah.

Im not insensitive, Im just -real- on the *cold* hard facts dealing with population control, and natural selection.


Get strung out on painkillers legitimitely from a legal doctor, get cut off and turn to street opiates, and then tell me about your morals...

People don't always CHOOSE to be junkies ya know....

They need to get those fuckin smack heads to the methadone clinic and teach them how to get their heads straight... It worked for me.


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zamalito

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I hope you aren't serious illuminati. Personally I would rather die of aids than live in a world where people like you were the only ones alive. I was fifteen when I first used heroin. I had a terribly abusive alcoholic father and I was just in a car accident where my closest brother who was driving was killed and had undergone several painful surgeries along with receiving an insurance settlement. My much older brother was an addict and knowing that I was in serious physical and emotional pain took advantage of the situation. Personally I feel that unlike you those that make mistakes in life grow and learn from those mistakes into humble kind compassionate human beings capable of feeling empathy towards human beings and a much greater understanding and appreciation of how the world works. I every addict was killed off this site wouldn't even exist. Gypsy was an opium addict for a brief period. Think of the many contributions recovered addicts have made to society. I just hope you grow up. BTW good luck keeping a wife if you've never learned how to satisfy someone sexually.
 

Verite

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illuminatus said:
They shouldn't hand out needles to druggies or to stop the spread of aids, complete waste of tax-payer money.. aids is here for a reason. TO KILL HEATHENS. I never have used a needle on myself and only plan to have sex with someone I love and marry, -after blood tests. There is almost no possible way a person with morals can catch aids. Obviously there are the rare cases of blah blah blah transfusions blah blah blah.

Im not insensitive, Im just -real- on the *cold* hard facts dealing with population control, and natural selection.


You would have to be intelligent to be insensitive, youre just ignorant. Theres a diff.

Aids kills all walks of life dipshit. 12 people every second. Men, women, and children. None of them heathens, none of them deserved it. Its not population control nor natural selection. Its a disease. Like any other, have someone close enough to you waste away and you'll sing a different tune, like you would any other disease that hits close to home.
 
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Wow, they must have deleted illuminatus's post. man that's some phucked up shit. ironic having a s/n like that and trying to spread such ignorant bullshit like that post. i wonder if it's too late for his mother to abort him? obviously there is no sign of intelligent life there.
 
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obviously the goverment would rather have you taking smack rather than weed,,how fucked up is that
 

zamalito

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Why was my last post at 236 am at #11 when posts 7,8,9,10 were all made several hours later? That's weird.
 

Verite

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illuminatus Pm'ed me a bunch of dookie before deleting his posts and nuking his acct.
 

zamalito

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How can you possibly say that everyone that has aids (a disease that mostly effects poor and minorities eventhough wealthy caucasions are just as likely to engage in high risk behaviors) is a heathen that deserves to suffer a slow terrible death then not expect people to think you're a prick. I've been lucky enough to have only known one person to die of the disease but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I still bump into his mother who gives me mean looks. ( I think she blames me for his death because I sold him herb while he was sick but I'm not certain.) It just breaks my heart when I think of it. And to see someone like illuminatus invoke religion by using the word heathen while simultaneously wallowing in others pain like a pig in shit just pisses me off. Good f'in riddents

I have way too much conflict in my day to day personal life. I don't need to deal with people like that in the virtual world too. I hope he never comes back under another name.
 

mrwags

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Verite said:
illuminatus Pm'ed me a bunch of dookie before deleting his posts and nuking his acct.


Kinda like bullets to Superman eh Verite. Damn kids



Mr.Wags
 

GoodbyeBlueSky

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BeAn said:
Yeah it might help stop OD's and stuff but the laws seem to favour a junkie over a hard working guy who likes a puff now and then.. :chin:

i'm sorry, i agree on a certain level, but does someone smell a double standard here?

we, as stoners, ademently believe that we are not drug addicts. we use a plant to catch a buzz... to relax in the evening... to make a movie more interesting... just for fun... right?

junkies are addicted to what they're using. they are 'helpless' by our own standards. they need syringes to be able to get the full use out of their drugs. syringes can be dangerous if used improperly, shared, reused too many times, etc... if they can't get a clean new needle, they'll use an old one, or someone elses... therefore, it's the public's responsibility to make sure people do as little harm to themselves as possible...

a syringe isn't illegal until it has drug residue in it... a bong isn't illegal until there is drug residue in it... only you can buy a bong in any head shop... it's not that easy to get needles...
 

zamalito

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Thank you bluesky,

Its hard for many to understand the level of control and desperation heroin has over an addict. Free will is something we all take for granted until we lose it. I personally would take a canabis posession ticket any day if it prevents someones parent or child who is an addict from getting aids. And if anyone here would prefer others to catch aids over themselves losing their license for 6 months is devoid of compassion.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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mrwags said:
Kinda like bullets to Superman eh Verite. Damn kids



Mr.Wags


He should have read his fortune cookie,

" Armor made in China contains many chinks. "
 
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BeAn

GoodbyeBlueSky said:
i'm sorry, i agree on a certain level, but does someone smell a double standard here?

we, as stoners, ademently believe that we are not drug addicts. we use a plant to catch a buzz... to relax in the evening... to make a movie more interesting... just for fun... right?

junkies are addicted to what they're using. they are 'helpless' by our own standards. they need syringes to be able to get the full use out of their drugs. syringes can be dangerous if used improperly, shared, reused too many times, etc... if they can't get a clean new needle, they'll use an old one, or someone elses... therefore, it's the public's responsibility to make sure people do as little harm to themselves as possible...

a syringe isn't illegal until it has drug residue in it... a bong isn't illegal until there is drug residue in it... only you can buy a bong in any head shop... it's not that easy to get needles...

True, i must admit i didnt really think before i posted.. lol... :bat:
 

GoodbyeBlueSky

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well, all i mean is that we don't consider ourselves 'helpless' to our drug of choice. it's somewhere in the range of unlikely to impossible to spread any diseases through our administration method. basically, we're not a social burden...

if it was up to me there would be clinics where junkies could go to recieve 3 shots a day of pure diacetylmorphine. clean needles, clean drugs, no need to rob or beg for their next shot. think about how good this would be for society...

anyway, basically, i'm not going to harm myself getting stoned so i don't need any extra leniency. i know smoking pot is illegal, and i can stop at any time, but the same is not true for everyone. for example, this part in William Burroughs' book Naked Lunch comes to mind... this girl can't find a needle so she uses a safety pin to puncture herself and then an eye dropper to squeeze the drugs into her arm... can any of you see yourselves doing such dangerous things to get stoned?

no? i didn't think so... so basically we should cut these people some slack... it's in our own interest ultimately...
 
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