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who here REALLY fuqn knows their GH NUTeS ?

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NdefusableChrnc

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Subculture (micro biology)
Flora : micro grow bloom
diamond nectar (fulvic acids)
floraliscious ( grow, bloowm, and now theres a "plus?? wtf does plus do?
kool bloom
chi
florashield
flora kleen ( flush)
diamond black (humic acids)

HELP ME CUT OUT THE FAT. as far as i see i dont think that the floraliscious group is needed.. wtf is plus ? a combo or something of both ? would flora shield mess with micro biology in the roots

LAST THING .. does this soup need a carbo load or some shiet ? thanks all, the gh recipe's been beefed up with who knows what. karma+
 
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Yes you can cut out the fat, cause ya seem to be caught up in what some others get stuck in - the thinking that more additives = bigger yields.

Try this:

Subculture
FloraNova Bloom
Hydroguard
Hygrozyme

As far as 'carbo load' - no they do not need this. Adding sugar will only mess stuff up.

That's all ya need. Enjoy.
 
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Guest

I use gh 3 part and florakleen whenever fresh water ppm in the tank is 200ppm or higher than standard tap. I add epsom salt too if the red/purple stems show up or a cal/mag product. But by foliar, not by tank. A lot of what you are using you can use foliar and make 1 gallon or 2 instead of whatever you are feeding per week and just foliar. Any expensive stuff you should just foliar as a band aid or supplement.
 
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NdefusableChrnc

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CHODO, how does flora kleen reduce the ppm ? that doesnt really make sense to me.

SENSIMILLA - hydroguard is the same shit as florashield no ? more like a disinfectant product you use .. ? aye whats the info regarding shit like this in effect with microbiology... once you have your microbiology built, i believe a flushing agent or guard/shield agent would nutralize this... which is it? and how long for the microbiology to build back. and please do not get into the whole flushing debate.

what happened to REAAALLY FQN knows their shit?

i asked this question apart before and it was what part of the gh series includes the carbs (and what nutrients/sugars combo are regarded as carbs),
 
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house

house

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brainthor said:
lucas formula with a 5 mil per gallon cal-mag plus supplement
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Wow, have you tried using other additives to see their effects or have you already determined lucas + calmag as all we need? I guess keeping it simple is the way to go and cheaper to boot.
 
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just the lucas formula and cal-mag plus...i have tried the complicated recipe and get better results with the simple one...**** all the additives in my humble opinion....peace


 
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Brainthor has pretty much re-stated my point.

More additives does not = more yield.

So you either jump on the hype wagon, having 15 bottles of nutes/suppliments/etc for your ladies, or you step off the wagon and do what others use - the simple nute plan.

You asked for GH masters.... for that you may want to just call GH.
If you want nutrient/plant masters, I think you're seeing it.
(not that I specifically fit in the plant master category of course...but I have done quite a bit of testing using isolated control plants with others being subjected to additives).

Good luck!
 
Grat3fulh3ad

Grat3fulh3ad

The Voice of Reason
Veteran
I use 2 parts of the GH flora series... Micro and Bloom... Only thing I add is a tiny bit of epsom salts... I'm right there with the 'No additives needed' and the 'less is more' crowd...

One of the important things to remember when growing with GH, is that, in order to get the best tasting and smoking product, a bit of the potential yield has to be sacrificed... You're never going to get top quality by pushing for top yield.
 
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B.C.

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K.i.s.s. no matter how ya grow...unless of course yer standing on one foot facin north by north-east at 27 degrees on a full moon with Jupiter and Mars in line with the sun on the second thursday of the month witha feather in yer left hand.... then that'd be a lil diffrent story.lol Good mornin everybody! (wake and bake) Have good day! Take care...BC
 
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gromer

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Buhahahaha,Thats hillarious.Im not really the best person to get in on this convo.Im the king of more means more and why use somthing cheap when they make a super expensive alternative.But thats a different story.
Floralicious Plus is great it contains lots that the grow and bloom dont.Stuff is amazing,liquid gold.It contains a liquid suspension of Bacillus Subtillus which is a microbeasty with benefits up the ying ying.Good alternative to Voodoo from AN.Same idea liquid beastie innoculant.That combined with the Subculture and you will have ROOTS up the ying ying!!LOL!!!Peace Gromerr Pott!!
 
SensiMilla024

SensiMilla024

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NdefusableChrnc said:
CHODO, how does flora kleen reduce the ppm ? that doesnt really make sense to me.

SENSIMILLA - hydroguard is the same shit as florashield no ? more like a disinfectant product you use .. ? aye whats the info regarding shit like this in effect with microbiology... once you have your microbiology built, i believe a flushing agent or guard/shield agent would nutralize this... which is it? and how long for the microbiology to build back. and please do not get into the whole flushing debate.

what happened to REAAALLY FQN knows their shit?

i asked this question apart before and it was what part of the gh series includes the carbs (and what nutrients/sugars combo are regarded as carbs),
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Hydroguard is beneficial benny's.

Composition: Bacillus subtilis, Paenibacillus polymxa, Bacillus circulans, and Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. The guaranteed analysis is: CFU/Gram 1.7E x10 6 .


Florashield is more like expensive h202. It kills beneficial bennys.

http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/33851-attention-ghs-florashield-users.html


Hydroguard says to apply every 7-14 days.

So if you have alot of microbial activity, i would stay far away from florashield and h202.


I'm a firm believer in not flushing. Theres really no need unless you come up with some medium/root caused illness, in which you may need to flush.
Companies wouldn't make as much money if growers were told there was
no need to flush water containing 1200 PPM of nute solution.


Grat3fulh3ad said:
I use 2 parts of the GH flora series... Micro and Bloom... Only thing I add is a tiny bit of epsom salts... I'm right there with the 'No additives needed' and the 'less is more' crowd...

One of the important things to remember when growing with GH, is that, in order to get the best tasting and smoking product, a bit of the potential yield has to be sacrificed... You're never going to get top quality by pushing for top yield.
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It's really good to know that breeders also use GH. Jason King and Cannabible

really knock salt based ferts, bad. Always saying "the complexities" aren't

there with Salt based. BS, IMO. Blindfolded, I bet he couldn't tell a different.

The only salt based weed he tried that didn't lack anything was the Chem

dawg. Doesn't chem use GH?
 
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UNREGISTRD

UNREGISTRD

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all u need is 4 things from Gh to ahve a fully succesfull harvest!!

1.FloraMicro
2.Florabloom
3.KoolBloom
4.Florakleen

Micro,bloom mixed in lucas formula with koolbloom as your supplement and a week before there done use the Florakleen to flush em and your DONE!!!

Here is just a couple things that can be done with only 4 bottles of nutes!!



 
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Grat3fulh3ad

Grat3fulh3ad

The Voice of Reason
Veteran
SensiMilla024 said:
It's really good to know that breeders also use GH. Jason King and Cannabible

really knock salt based ferts, bad. Always saying "the complexities" aren't

there with Salt based. BS, IMO. Blindfolded, I bet he couldn't tell a different.

The only salt based weed he tried that didn't lack anything was the Chem

dawg. Doesn't chem use GH?
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... only crops grown from unrefined minerals are recognized as "organic". The trouble is unrefined minerals do not dissolve well for hydroponic use and some of these unrefined minerals contain quantities of impurities, some of which are toxic to plants. For that reason, FloraBloom, FloraGro, and FloraMicro are made from high quality refined minerals. This ensures high quality crop production, but prevents the crop from being considered "organic"...
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Properly grown weed is properly grown weed...
Of course unrefined minerals and unnecessary 'extra's' are going to add complexities and impurities to the smoke... Unless they're properly flushed, of course...I'd bet he couldn't tell the difference either, in a blind test...
 
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Guest

I started hydro over a year ago and was trained with GH 3 part but...I also use Diamond Nectar (actually used as it's actually crap and now go with Ancient Amber from Aqua Serene/Root's Organics/Aurora Innovations) and add Kool Bloom to finish. The quality with the strain I run far surpasses almost anything I ever come across, soil or hydro, but a great part of that I attribute to the quality of the genetics I have. The reason I went hydro was I was so impressed with the quality of the same strain a friend grew I had to try it. This is all in rockwool.

I have only used Clearex (same as Florakleen) when I screwed up the formula and dumped it on the plants so wanted it out. For my flush I just stop using nutes with about 10 days to go and do a few res changes. The EC slowly drops, as the rockwool holds on to quite a bit, and by the time I harvest they've run at about 0 for a few days.

I do add some H202 every once in awhile.

I ran the same strain recently using AN's Sensi Grow and Bloom, Big Bud, CalMag, Carbo Load, Overdrive and Root's Organics fulvic product in coco and my results were definitely better in the fragrance/flavor department. I'm gonna run it again and see if I duplicate the results. The AN does seem to 'clean out' better than the GH stuff.
 
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