Who here has experience using Xhale bags?

[Mars_Barz2]

I'm considering using these things as temps are becoming an issue where I'm growing, and I could probably put those 30C temps to good use.

The thing is, I don't have a sealed environment. If I were to put a couple of these things into my 2x4 tent, then put the exhaust fan on a timer set to come on once per hour for maybe twenty seconds, would that work or be effective?

 

[FTL]

I'm considering using these things as temps are becoming an issue where I'm growing, and I could probably put those 30C temps to good use.

The thing is, I don't have a sealed environment. If I were to put a couple of these things into my 2x4 tent, then put the exhaust fan on a timer set to come on once per hour for maybe twenty seconds, would that work or be effective?

Are you in the southern hemi summer atm?

 

[Hiddenjems]

Co2 needs to be kept stable during lights on to be effective. If it fluctuates you get growth based on the low end of the fluctuation.

 

[FTL]

Bottled co2 is the only way to truely do it indoors.

You’re better off investing the money into fans & thermostats to increase your airflow and control your temps to be fair.

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

Those things are a waste of money.

 

[Mars_Barz2]

Are you in the southern hemi summer atm?

Nope, I'm in Canada.

Bottled co2 is the only way to truely do it indoors.

You’re better off investing the money into fans & thermostats to increase your airflow and control your temps to be fair.

Our temperatures are bouncing dramatically between -20C (a week ago) and projected to climb to +7C next week. I don't have any heat on in my room (I have my furnace vent plugged up), my window is open and my tent with my inline fan is tuned on on all the way up, the temps inside of the tent are still hitting +31C. My RH doesn't get any higher than twenty percent, like it's been an absolute snail crawl to the harvest line!!

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

Nope, I'm in Canada.

Our temperatures are bouncing dramatically between -20C (a week ago) and projected to climb to +7C next week. I don't have any heat on in my room (I have my furnace vent plugged up), my window is open and my tent with my inline fan is tuned on on all the way up, the temps inside of the tent are still hitting +31C. My RH doesn't get any higher than twenty percent, like it's been an absolute snail crawl to the harvest line!!

In that scenario CO2 is not your limiting factor. If you add more it won't produce any benefit, even if done correctly (sealed room, bottled CO2, AC etc.).
Better spend some money to improve the environment. A humidifier might help and is relatively cheap (use RO water).

 

[FTL]

Nope, I'm in Canada.

Our temperatures are bouncing dramatically between -20C (a week ago) and projected to climb to +7C next week. I don't have any heat on in my room (I have my furnace vent plugged up), my window is open and my tent with my inline fan is tuned on on all the way up, the temps inside of the tent are still hitting +31C. My RH doesn't get any higher than twenty percent, like it's been an absolute snail crawl to the harvest line!!

Sorry mate I thought you might have been in Oz with those temps.
You’re running a touch hot @ 31c, 24-26C works better fme.

I agree with @Orange's Greenhouse the humidifier would be a better investment in your case.

Dial in your temps and humidity then consider co2 after you’ve run your dialled in room for 1 year so you know how it reacts.

 

[LJ farming]

Bottled co2 is the only way to truely do it indoors.

You’re better off investing the money into fans & thermostats to increase your airflow and control your temps to be fair.

Double extra correcto!

 

[LJ farming]

CO2 is pointless unless you can dial in ALL OTHER INPUTS PERFECTO! Especially environment and light intensity!

 

[Mars_Barz2]

In that scenario CO2 is not your limiting factor. If you add more it won't produce any benefit, even if done correctly (sealed room, bottled CO2, AC etc.).
Better spend some money to improve the environment. A humidifier might help and is relatively cheap (use RO water).

Okay, you're gonna have to pardon my ignorance as I'm still fairly new to this game.

I'm not looking to add CO2 as a way to generate new growth, I would be adding it to nullify the damage done by the high temps inside of my tent. I've watched a few videos on YT and in some of them they mention that high powered grow lights can make use of CO2 enriched environments where the temperatures are around 30C. That's the only reason I'm considering the CO2 for this scenario (I want to eventually branch out to using gas cylinders but not at this moment).

I have a window fan that sucks in cold air from outside. I usually have the door closed in my lung room, and when I go in there sometimes it's bitterly cold, but the temp inside of my tent doesn't dip below 22C, not until the sun goes down. My inline fan is at roughly 65% - 75% full power. Is this normal?

I'm using the Mars Hydro setup, TSL2000 with the 2x4 tent. I've never grown before, this is actually kind of fucked. I picked LED because I heard the ballast lamps get incredibly hot, but for whatever reason this growlight is pumping out a SHIT TON of heat. I'm actually considering getting a shed and putting this thing outside, as I'm almost certain that these things won't freeze during the day in our Canadian winters.

 

[tobedetermined]

So it boils down to getting some of that colder room air through your tent. Spend your money on ventilation. A bigger exhaust fan on top coupled with an intake fan coming in through the bottom vents. You can add some small interior fans blowing up as well to get a good flow.

 

[FTL]

Co2 is not the answer my man.

Controlling your temps is the way.

Do you have to put it in the tent?

Tents are a bit of waste of time if you can use the whole room as a dedicated flower space. Much kinder on the plants and yourself for Working in Fme

 

[Creeperpark]

I think those are a rip-off or what I call snake oil. There's a sucker born every day looking for a too-good-to-be-true notion. Save your money friend.

 

[LJ farming]

I think those are a rip-off or what I call snake oil. There's a sucker born every day looking for a too-good-to-be-true notion. Save your money friend.

Absofuckinglutly! Trash snake oil. If you are thinking about these please save your money!

Spend your hard earned money on environmental control and light intensity/spectrum! Once you can regularly have successful runs without co2 then perhaps it is time to think about it.

The shit is not magic nor will you get 5 more grams running C02 if every other parameter is not dialed in!

It does help incredibly but it’s pointless and a waste of money until every other parameter is dialed in’

Peace

 

[Mars_Barz2]

Okay, I wont be purchasing the Exhale bags.

Question though. How do you guys manage grow tents that ARENT kept inside of a refrigerator?? Because my lung room needs to be mighty cold to maintain 22C - 23C temps.

 

[FTL]

Okay, I wont be purchasing the Exhale bags.

Question though. How do you guys manage grow tents that ARENT kept inside of a refrigerator?? Because my lung room needs to be mighty cold to maintain 22C - 23C temps.

Personally I don’t use tents unless for cuttings/mother’s.

Use the room itself way easier to work in, your plants will thank you and yourself will also thank you for making life easier

 

[PlastikeRubba]

Bottled co2 is the only way to truely do it indoors.

No, it's not.

Photorespiration is when the plant runs out of carbon and breaks down protein for food.

So, when photorespiration dominates (over 77° leaf temp) you feed it carbon, you feed it amino, you feed it co2 in one shot:

Replace your calnit with cal-gly and all the dumb hydroponic shit, like smoking shitty weed, spraying pesticides, and using industrial gas tanks becomes embarrassingly pointless and devolved.

(And no you don't need bleach napalm agent orange and covid vaccine to clean your lines, citric acid works just fine.)

 

[Mars_Barz2]

No, it's not.

Photorespiration is when the plant runs out of carbon and breaks down protein for food.

So, when photorespiration dominates (over 77° leaf temp) you feed it carbon, you feed it amino, you feed it co2 in one shot:

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Replace your calnit with cal-gly and all the dumb hydroponic shit, like smoking shitty weed, spraying pesticides, and using industrial gas tanks becomes embarrassingly pointless and devolved.

(And no you don't need bleach napalm agent orange and covid vaccine to clean your lines, citric acid works just fine.)

With all due respect, I have no idea what this means. Pls pardon my ignorance.

 

[LJ farming]

Personally I don’t use tents unless for cuttings/mother’s.

Use the room itself way easier to work in, your plants will thank you and yourself will also thank you for making life easier

Absolutely