Where to move in Oregon to find friendly areas for OMMP Greenhouse cultivation!!

[Abja Roots]

Hey everyone.

For those of you that know me, you'll know that I've now been living in the sierras of butte county for a few years. Prior to that I lived down in the bay.

With the passing of Measure A up here(basically an outdoor ban), and the exploding population/traffic of the bay. I've decided that it's time to make a move out of state.

I've been up to Oregon several times in the last few months to get to know the areas, but since I don't have any friends up there it's hard to get an idea of what areas are best.

Here's what I'm looking for.
1) An area where we can setup a large fully auto dep greenhouse with supplemental lights. 30x96
2) Private
3) Cannabis friendly area
4) On grid water/power
5) 20 acres +


So far the area that pops up the most is the Grants Pass area. I see lots of outdoor grows in the mountains outside of there. However I saw that the city council has definitely taken some anti-cannabis steps such as trying to ban outdoor cultivation and not allowing dispensaries. If I had to compare the area I'm looking for to something I'm familiar with I'd say I want to be in the equivalent of Sonoma county. I'm also willing to go way out into the sticks if that's a better bet, however I'm not interested in going too far to the east of the state since it seems super conservative.

Here's a picture that's been helping to guide my thinking. I'd like to stay in one of the green areas and avoid the red.

Thanks to anyone who chimes in. If you have a realtor you would recommend in that specific area please let me know.

 

[Bradley_Danks]

I believe those bans are just for licensed recreational grows not medical. I just got a letter from ommp stating that as of july 1st 2015 there is a 2 year residency requirement to obtain a Mmj grower card here. Other than that the medical program is mostly unchanged... Southern Oregon or eastern Oregon have the best weather for growing mj.

 

[Abja Roots]

Thanks for chiming in. I'd rather avoid any area that would even vote against recreational grows at all.

I'm aware of the residency requirement, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I'll be heading up there in the next month or two to get my residency started.

 

[strandloper]

bend

 

[Bradley_Danks]

Thanks for chiming in. I'd rather avoid any area that would even vote against recreational grows at all.

I'm aware of the residency requirement, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there. I'll be heading up there in the next month or two to get my residency started.

Cool, I'm not from southern Oregon but I've been out there a bit. There are tons of good towns for Mmj greenhouse growing down there. I can't really think of one being better than the other. Jackson county looks like it would be your best choice. It gets a lot wetter in lane county. That's where the Willamette valley starts. The coastal counties are really wet and stormy too. Deschutes is kinda in the mountains and has some rain protection.

bend

Bend seems like a good spot. I've only heard good things.

 

[Abja Roots]

I like that there's so much land in the Bend area for pretty cheap, but I'm leaning towards something with more trees. I'm also concerned because so many areas out there are on wells and it's one of the fastest growing areas in Oregon. They're draining the hell out of the aquifers with their wells, which is the same thing that happened in the area I'm in.

Thanks for the tips on the counties. I'll look into Jackson County, and see what I can find.

I'm going to visit Bend on my next trip and see what it's like.

 

[furrywall11]

Hey man, not trying to hijack your thread but I'm in pretty much the same boat. Bought a nice 10 acre property with a house in Yuba County last year and then boom grow ban. Looking to move up to Oregon..Have some connections in the area. Noticed that recently they created a rule that to grow cannabis as a caregiver with lots of plants you need to have a two year residency. Thankfully, I've got that sorted with my partner. But...I'm seeing a lot of raw land available.....What's the score regarding needing to have a permitted home on the property like you do in California? Can you just buy raw land and setup a yurt and rock it out???

Also, if anyone has a link to the basic rules for cannabis cultivation in Oregon--I'd love to see it. Thanks!

 

[Obsidian]

Grants Pass banned outdoor grows, only people allowed to finish this year 2015 are those who had garden in and growing. Next season 2016 is a big No here. They claim they are going to hunt out illegal grows here in town.
to tell you the truth Roseburg is your best bet or Medford Ashland.
I've lived here for for over 40yrs and just moved back home after 10 yrs testing Cali, Colorado, and this year Arizona.
Az has the best grow laws for outdoors, 12 allowed but only 25 miles from a dip, I got my card in Pinetop-Lakeside for 2015, no dips anywhere up there...a good biz op for someone in Show Low AZ

Grants Pass is a bust, but north of us from Merlin to Eugene is free and clear. also Medford, Ash, south to Cali's boarder.

 

[Obsidian]

should also note this includes indoor grows.

not sure how they intend to enforce this regulation, since the police force is down to near no one, and the public just voted to not fund or add funds to the police depts in Grants Pass, Merlin, Rogue, and a few other surrounding towns.

Klamath is open for all growing and a great area to grow, or Williams, OR and the surrounding area.
So many places here just a bit of deep research into the town you want to relocate in, before you make the decision and move so as to not waste your funds.
There's lots of good property fairly cheap for rent OMMP friendly.

 

[St. Phatty]

Williams Wonder.

A classic sort-of-Dutch strain, genuinely Oregonian strain.

Named after those 2 towns in South Oregon.

Those 2 strains ... I mean towns might be good to look at.


http://www.mapquest.com/us/or/williams-282030622

http://www.mapquest.com/us/or/wonder-282929338

 

[Robrites]

Take a look at some real estate websites for areas you might be interested in. I checked out Southern Oregon last spring and they wanted god-money for land of any size. Large tracks of land are relatively cheap in the eastern part of the state so keep an eye on the evolving legal situation there. Using a green house gives you great flexibility on where you can grow. Best of luck.

 

[Robrites]

Deschutes officials get another earful on rural pot business

Deschutes officials get another earful on rural pot business

BEND, Ore. -

Rural Deschutes County residents, some who received anonymous notes of alarm in their mailboxes, packed a second planning commission hearing Thursday night to voice their concerns about the potential of numerous recreational marijuana-growing businesses in their neighborhoods.

Video
http://www.ktvz.com/news/deschutes-officials-get-another-earful-on-rural-pot-business/36422394

 

[furrywall11]

so...ya don't need a permitted house on your property to grow in Oregon like ya do in California?

 

[Robrites]

so...ya don't need a permitted house on your property to grow in Oregon like ya do in California?

I don't think so. Here are some details but the OLCC is still working on the rules.

Licensing

Q: What licenses will be available?
A: The measure lists four types of recreational marijuana licenses: Producer, Processor, Wholesaler, and Retail. A producer is also known as the grower. A processor is a business that will transform the raw marijuana into another product or extract. Processors are also responsible for packaging and labeling of recreational marijuana. A wholesaler is a business that buys in bulk and sells to resellers rather than to consumers. A retailer is a business that sells directly to consumers. The Oregon Legislature also created a license for the laboratories that test marijuana. The OLCC will issue licenses to labs that are certified by the Oregon Health Authority.

Q: When will the OLCC begin accepting license applications?
A: The OLCC will begin accepting license applications for recreational marijuana on January 4, 2016. It will be an online-only application process.

Q. How will OLCC decide how to grant or deny license applications?
A. Undetermined at this point. The OLCC is in the process of writing the rules necessary to implement Measure 91. The agency has appointed an advisory committee that will write the rules and send its recommendations to the Commission sometime this fall for approval.

Q. If I want to apply for a recreational marijuana license, what should I do now?
A. Be patient. The OLCC won’t be accepting applications until January 4, 2016. In the meantime, to keep up-to-date on the process, click here.

Q: How much are the licensing fees?
A: Undetermined at this point. Measure 91 established an annual license fee of $1,000 plus a non-refundable application fee of $250 per license application. However, the Oregon Legislature made the determination that license fees need to cover the cost of the recreational marijuana program. That means fees are likely to be higher than what Measure 91 envisioned, but how much higher remains to be seen.

Q: How many licenses can I have?
A: A licensee may hold multiple licenses and multiple license types.

Q: Can an out-of-state resident hold an Oregon recreational marijuana license?
A: T[FONT=&quot]here is a two-year state residency requirement for all recreational license applicants. See [FONT=&quot]House Bill 3400 for more information.[/FONT][/FONT]

Q: Who will be eligible for a marijuana license?
A: Anyone over 21 years of age and older will be eligible for a recreational marijuana license if they meet certain conditions outlined in section 29 of Measure 91. Under those conditions, the OLCC may refuse a license if it believes the applicant:

• Is in the habit of using alcoholic beverages, habit-forming drugs, marijuana, or controlled substances to excess.
• Has made false statements to the commission.
• Is incompetent or physically unable to carry on the management of the establishment proposed to be licensed.
• Has been convicted of violating a general or local law of this state or another state, or of violating a federal law, if the conviction is substantially related to the fitness and ability of the applicant to lawfully carry out activities under the license.
• Has maintained an insanitary establishment.
• Is not of good repute and moral character.
• Did not have a good record of compliance with sections 3 to 70 of this Act or any rule of the commission adopted pursuant thereto.
• Is not the legitimate owner of the business proposed to be licensed, or other persons have ownership interests in the business which have not been disclosed.
• Is not possessed of or has not demonstrated financial responsibility sufficient to adequately meet the requirements of the business proposed to be licensed.
• Is unable to understand the laws of Oregon relating to marijuana or the rules of the commission.

 

[Bradley_Danks]

Grants Pass banned outdoor grows, only people allowed to finish this year 2015 are those who had garden in and growing. Next season 2016 is a big No here. They claim they are going to hunt out illegal grows here in town.
to tell you the truth Roseburg is your best bet or Medford Ashland.
I've lived here for for over 40yrs and just moved back home after 10 yrs testing Cali, Colorado, and this year Arizona.
Az has the best grow laws for outdoors, 12 allowed but only 25 miles from a dip, I got my card in Pinetop-Lakeside for 2015, no dips anywhere up there...a good biz op for someone in Show Low AZ

Grants Pass is a bust, but north of us from Merlin to Eugene is free and clear. also Medford, Ash, south to Cali's boarder.

Arizona seems like lots of good sun. I see there are dispensaries in show low on Google though. Check out green hills patient center in show low. Sucks about the 25 mile rule.

U think people are growing monsters in az just like in Oregon?

 

[furrywall11]

That's for recreational, though yeah? I admit I'm not well informed about the rules in Oregon. Is there still going to be a medical program where you can get be a caregiver for multiple patients or has it gone all recreational where you would have to apply for a producers license?

I don't think so. Here are some details but the OLCC is still working on the rules.

Licensing

Q: What licenses will be available?
A: The measure lists four types of recreational marijuana licenses: Producer, Processor, Wholesaler, and Retail. A producer is also known as the grower. A processor is a business that will transform the raw marijuana into another product or extract. Processors are also responsible for packaging and labeling of recreational marijuana. A wholesaler is a business that buys in bulk and sells to resellers rather than to consumers. A retailer is a business that sells directly to consumers. The Oregon Legislature also created a license for the laboratories that test marijuana. The OLCC will issue licenses to labs that are certified by the Oregon Health Authority.

Q: When will the OLCC begin accepting license applications?
A: The OLCC will begin accepting license applications for recreational marijuana on January 4, 2016. It will be an online-only application process.

Q. How will OLCC decide how to grant or deny license applications?
A. Undetermined at this point. The OLCC is in the process of writing the rules necessary to implement Measure 91. The agency has appointed an advisory committee that will write the rules and send its recommendations to the Commission sometime this fall for approval.

Q. If I want to apply for a recreational marijuana license, what should I do now?
A. Be patient. The OLCC won’t be accepting applications until January 4, 2016. In the meantime, to keep up-to-date on the process, click here.

Q: How much are the licensing fees?
A: Undetermined at this point. Measure 91 established an annual license fee of $1,000 plus a non-refundable application fee of $250 per license application. However, the Oregon Legislature made the determination that license fees need to cover the cost of the recreational marijuana program. That means fees are likely to be higher than what Measure 91 envisioned, but how much higher remains to be seen.

Q: How many licenses can I have?
A: A licensee may hold multiple licenses and multiple license types.

Q: Can an out-of-state resident hold an Oregon recreational marijuana license?
A: T[FONT=&quot]here is a two-year state residency requirement for all recreational license applicants. See [FONT=&quot]House Bill 3400 for more information.[/FONT][/FONT]

Q: Who will be eligible for a marijuana license?
A: Anyone over 21 years of age and older will be eligible for a recreational marijuana license if they meet certain conditions outlined in section 29 of Measure 91. Under those conditions, the OLCC may refuse a license if it believes the applicant:

• Is in the habit of using alcoholic beverages, habit-forming drugs, marijuana, or controlled substances to excess.
• Has made false statements to the commission.
• Is incompetent or physically unable to carry on the management of the establishment proposed to be licensed.
• Has been convicted of violating a general or local law of this state or another state, or of violating a federal law, if the conviction is substantially related to the fitness and ability of the applicant to lawfully carry out activities under the license.
• Has maintained an insanitary establishment.
• Is not of good repute and moral character.
• Did not have a good record of compliance with sections 3 to 70 of this Act or any rule of the commission adopted pursuant thereto.
• Is not the legitimate owner of the business proposed to be licensed, or other persons have ownership interests in the business which have not been disclosed.
• Is not possessed of or has not demonstrated financial responsibility sufficient to adequately meet the requirements of the business proposed to be licensed.
• Is unable to understand the laws of Oregon relating to marijuana or the rules of the commission.

 

[Robrites]

Yep, yer right furrywall11. I think they changed medical to like 48 plants max. I'll have to look it up. 6 adult plants per patient.

 

[Robrites]

I THINK this is what they changed it to...

Section 7 deals with new grow site limits. The section states that if a grow site is located within city limits, there is a cap of 12 mature plants maximum, regardless of how many patients have registered there. If the grow site was registered prior to January 1, 2015, it can be grandfathered in, but not to “exceed 24 mature marijuana plants.” The cap on new gardens that are located outside of city limits would be at 48 mature plants, regardless of the amount of patients registered at the address. If the grow site was registered prior to January 1, 2015, it can be grandfathered in, but not to “exceed 96 mature plants.”

 

[furrywall11]

Hey nice, Robrites...could you post a link to where you're pulling this info?

A little 48 plant garden with a yurt outside Ashland could be just what the Dr. ordered..

 

[Robrites]

Hey nice, Robrites...could you post a link to where you're pulling this info?

A little 48 plant garden with a yurt outside Ashland could be just what the Dr. ordered..

Here is where to start. Get on their email list and they will keep you up to date.

http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/pages/default.aspx

Here are the current temporary rules

http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Documents/TemporaryMarijuanaRules_adopted_102215.pdf