funny, lazy lion is unlicensed and does not have to abide by regulations that all other legally licensed grows must. i wonder if that makes a difference for them - potentially sourcing from multiple smaller scale (obviously, again, unlicensed) grows rather than the "legal" licensed large scale grows that supply most of the dispensaries.
weedaholic, did u go to the speakeasy? hit up billy the budtender?
colorado is in fact one of the most dry areas of the country, not only a desert but a HIGH desert - high elevation makes the air thinner which lowers its capacity for holding moisture compared to.... let's just say sea level. ime there is no place east of the mississippi that has nearly the arid climate of colorado and "the west", you must live in a desert also, weedaholic
i don't think your exp. is unusual in colorado, it's sad that legal licensed growers supplying legal licensed shops can't put out a decent product.
thanks for your input weedaholic, i think it's neccessary that the industry begin to understand that despite to boatloads of $$ they are bringing in, the overall quality of product available in the state (particularly the state capitol, biggest city) is garbage.
i know that smell you are talking about and i think it comes from a few things potentially; wet trimming and bucking off the stem, then not controlling humidity levels and buds dry out quickly, often OVER dry, then it's a game of getting moisure back IN the buds - and imo they are never the same again after "re-constituting" them to 60% moisture after falling very low.
personally i prefer dry trimming in colorado - my harvest/trim/cure scenario goes something like this: pull all large water "fan" leaves in the last 2 weeks leading up to harvest, cut plants, hang upside down, let dry (usually 5-10 days) just until the outsides are crisp but insides are still gooey, THEN dry trim and seal up with boveda packs if dry enough (jarring too early also ruins smells/flavors), if NOT dry enough i go into paper bags for a day or 2 or even into tupperwares with the lid loosely on them until ready to jar up. for a home-grower that's not too much work, but when scaled up to warehouse sized grows that process may become tedious... but cutting corners is how the weed ends up low quality.
like i said before; boveda is a game changer.
as for your ascertion that the (lack of good) smell comes from neem and pesticides sprayed in flower; there is so much attention on residual testing right now that a store would have to be litterally ignorant of the scenario or downright stupid (more $$ than sense is a common attribute in Co canna industry, IME). the improper use of chems on cannabis has been a focus of mine since i LEFT the industry in 2011. i'm glad it's finally getting some sunlight on the situation, personally, and i think that attention will start to change people's bad methods (like spraying gnarly pesticides late in flower or at all) if for no other reason than fear of state reprisal.
I wonder if perhaps much of the really good flower is going towards high end solvent based extracts, because that could potentially be an upsell it certainly is a huge trend.... but the problem exists and has been a problem for some time - low quality herb in denver dispensaries, hence this thread.
i'll close this longwinded post with some advice to other potential colorado travellers; don't come just for the weed, or you may be disappointed. Come with some real plans, like skiing/snowboarding, whitewater rafting, climbing a mountain, prospecting for gold/gemstones, visiting national parks and wilderness areas, exploring the rocky mountains, concerts at red rocks (best venue ever imo) or fillmore or fiddlers green, sports events, trade shows, air shows, cannabis cups, bongathon, or whatever floats your boat... then just add legal weed to whatever you are doing (always be discreet and careful of course, especially on federal property like national parks). for me the colorado scene has always been about:
"________ and weed" you fill in the blank with whatever you are into that colorado offers - legal cannabis is the cherry on top.
weedaholic, did u go to the speakeasy? hit up billy the budtender?
colorado is in fact one of the most dry areas of the country, not only a desert but a HIGH desert - high elevation makes the air thinner which lowers its capacity for holding moisture compared to.... let's just say sea level. ime there is no place east of the mississippi that has nearly the arid climate of colorado and "the west", you must live in a desert also, weedaholic
i don't think your exp. is unusual in colorado, it's sad that legal licensed growers supplying legal licensed shops can't put out a decent product.
thanks for your input weedaholic, i think it's neccessary that the industry begin to understand that despite to boatloads of $$ they are bringing in, the overall quality of product available in the state (particularly the state capitol, biggest city) is garbage.
i know that smell you are talking about and i think it comes from a few things potentially; wet trimming and bucking off the stem, then not controlling humidity levels and buds dry out quickly, often OVER dry, then it's a game of getting moisure back IN the buds - and imo they are never the same again after "re-constituting" them to 60% moisture after falling very low.
personally i prefer dry trimming in colorado - my harvest/trim/cure scenario goes something like this: pull all large water "fan" leaves in the last 2 weeks leading up to harvest, cut plants, hang upside down, let dry (usually 5-10 days) just until the outsides are crisp but insides are still gooey, THEN dry trim and seal up with boveda packs if dry enough (jarring too early also ruins smells/flavors), if NOT dry enough i go into paper bags for a day or 2 or even into tupperwares with the lid loosely on them until ready to jar up. for a home-grower that's not too much work, but when scaled up to warehouse sized grows that process may become tedious... but cutting corners is how the weed ends up low quality.
like i said before; boveda is a game changer.
as for your ascertion that the (lack of good) smell comes from neem and pesticides sprayed in flower; there is so much attention on residual testing right now that a store would have to be litterally ignorant of the scenario or downright stupid (more $$ than sense is a common attribute in Co canna industry, IME). the improper use of chems on cannabis has been a focus of mine since i LEFT the industry in 2011. i'm glad it's finally getting some sunlight on the situation, personally, and i think that attention will start to change people's bad methods (like spraying gnarly pesticides late in flower or at all) if for no other reason than fear of state reprisal.
I wonder if perhaps much of the really good flower is going towards high end solvent based extracts, because that could potentially be an upsell it certainly is a huge trend.... but the problem exists and has been a problem for some time - low quality herb in denver dispensaries, hence this thread.
i'll close this longwinded post with some advice to other potential colorado travellers; don't come just for the weed, or you may be disappointed. Come with some real plans, like skiing/snowboarding, whitewater rafting, climbing a mountain, prospecting for gold/gemstones, visiting national parks and wilderness areas, exploring the rocky mountains, concerts at red rocks (best venue ever imo) or fillmore or fiddlers green, sports events, trade shows, air shows, cannabis cups, bongathon, or whatever floats your boat... then just add legal weed to whatever you are doing (always be discreet and careful of course, especially on federal property like national parks). for me the colorado scene has always been about:
"________ and weed" you fill in the blank with whatever you are into that colorado offers - legal cannabis is the cherry on top.
