where do you think the future of a/f's lay ?

[The Boys]

so what do you think the future steps of auto breeding are ?
i remember long ago when i read that the greenhouse green-o-matic was an auto that would flower in the middle of summer but read that is was very weak bud. i thought to myself " in years they will breed plants that flower like the g-o-m but have tastey potent bud. it seems to me the main thing that the better autos are missing is yield but that being said i wouldnt mind having some super high yielding, fast flowering, feminized, auto flowering, web leafed, rot/mold and pest resistent, super potent, super tastey, pure sativa seeds.

 

[Ironeek]

super high yielding, fast flowering, feminized, auto flowering, web leafed, rot/mold and pest resistent, super potent, super tastey.

Haven't you just, more or less, answered your own question?

 

[The Boys]

i guess , im just wondering what others think the next big steps in auto breeding are.

 

[mitch_connor]

High potency plants, that are fast and stable and grow like clones

There's some great foundations laid, it's just a matter of time, and people putting the work in.

 

[Ironeek]

High potency plants, that are fast and stable and grow like clones

There's some great foundations laid, it's just a matter of time, and people putting the work in.

Absolutely

AF's have come on leaps and bounds in the past few years. The first generations of autos horrible plants. It wasnt until Last year that I saw some autos produce somewhat decent smoke. This year I have seen and smoked stuff that defiantly competes with mid grade regular strains.

Still have too many concerns about autos to do anything more then mess around with them.

 

[mckb024]

High potency plants, that are fast and stable and grow like clones

There's some great foundations laid, it's just a matter of time, and people putting the work in.

Hey mitch, high potency, high yield, amazing color, and superb flavor have been around for years in the AF world, just because there have been a lot of busts doesn't take away from whats been here and stable.

Just ask people like caned abyss about spyder
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=113582

 

[mckb024]

Absolutely

AF's have come on leaps and bounds in the past few years. The first generations of autos horrible plants. It wasnt until Last year that I saw some autos produce somewhat decent smoke. This year I have seen and smoked stuff that defiantly competes with mid grade regular strains.

Still have too many concerns about autos to do anything more then mess around with them.

whats up Ironeek, I just think you haven't got a hold of the right genetics when it comes to AF's I know if you smoked some spyder you would change your mind. have a good one

 

[Ironeek]

whats up Irongeek, I just think you haven't got a hold of the right genetics when it comes to AF's I know if you smoked some spyder you would change your mind. have a good one

All the autos (bar mosys gems) were over the counter. Im not doubting that there is much quality out there...

Autos are great for a purpose but in a controlled environment they leave a bit to be desired. To be honest I have no understanding why you would grow autos indoors at all (excluding veg rooms maybe). Am I missing something?

 

[blackone]

All the autos (bar mosys gems) were over the counter. Im not doubting that there is much quality out there...

Autos are great for a purpose but in a controlled environment they leave a bit to be desired. To be honest I have no understanding why you would grow autos indoors at all (excluding veg rooms maybe). Am I missing something?

Best reason for growing autos indoors is creating seeds for outdoor grows

We already got the autos producing top-potency buds.
We got autos producing well enough to make growing them rewarding (as long as you're not afraid of numbers).
What we need now is more mold resistance and perhaps also some work done on bag-appeal.
But mold-resistance above all else.

 

[Hempe]

i think autos very useful for commercial production when you get the right strain and make your own fem seeds. *Short Term Amnesia*

 

[blackone]

i think autos very useful for commercial production when you get the right strain and make your own fem seeds. *Short Term Amnesia*

Perhaps - if you can get the fem seed production to go smoothly. I've seen a lot of people trying and failing.
Fem seeds from regular seeds is challenging because I don't think you can start spraying before sex shows - otherwise I think you wouldn't be able to see if a plant with balls is a reverse female or simply a male.
Fem seeds from commercial fem seeds is of course an option if you know the seeds are good. I expect most autos available are semi-inbred (F3+) and what you see in terms of variability is pretty much what you get.

 

[Hempe]

start with normal seeds, wait for female preflower. collect pollen store pollen grow another female and voila, femmed auto seeds. Or just spray and collect from desired plant s1's

For your health

 

[blackone]

start with normal seeds, wait for female preflower. collect pollen store pollen grow another female and voila, femmed auto seeds. Or just spray and collect from desired plant s1's

For your health

I've seen several people failing to achieve male flowers when waiting until female preflowers appear - have you tried it yourself? Did you use STS or CS?

 

[mckb024]

i think autos very useful for commercial production when you get the right strain and make your own fem seeds. *Short Term Amnesia*

whats up hempe
I would agree about auto's being useful, but if you take a stable AF strain and feminize it you are defeating the purpose of all female plants, because when one or more kicks out nanners and pollinates your whole garden thats like having a male in the first place.

 

[Hempe]

ahh i beg to differ. not all fem seeds hermie. hermies are just a part of the natural process of cannabis. i see where you see where my theory is flawed. And i agree there will never be a way to only have plants that produce female flowers and nothing else. because the hermie trait is a defense mechanism to keep the species alive. I fail to see where the purpose the autoflowering trait differs from all other cannabis. because all other cannibis can hermie too. So what was your point again? Is your argument against autoflowers because you can't clone them? If thats your argument thats a valid point. But if you maintain a watchful eye over your garden or rely on numbers i think the average commercial run with autoflowers should do just fine.

 

[blackone]

whats up hempe
I would agree about auto's being useful, but if you take a stable AF strain and feminize it you are defeating the purpose of all female plants, because when one or more kicks out nanners and pollinates your whole garden thats like having a male in the first place.

Any why would it do that? Assuming the strain in question doesn't contain any intersex traits then the offspring wouldn't contain them either.
Using CS or STS to provoke reversal in a true female won't magically create intersex genes.
If on the other side the intersex genes are already there then you can also get nanners from regular females.

 

[habeeb]

i guess , I'm just wondering what others think the next big steps in auto breeding are.

bigger plants..

which is my opinion destroys the basis of an autoflower.. which is kinda silly considering the word.. auto-flower..

because honestly, if I was to grow a big plant, it would be a DJ plant. I have not met one autoflower that could compete with a 'regular' seed..

I understand all the greatness with autos in outdoor scenarios.. I do, but indoor, I want them small and unique.


in my painted pictures.. autos are comical, break up the norm, short, flower quick.... and are just fun

 

[Hempe]

I've seen several people failing to achieve male flowers when waiting until female preflowers appear - have you tried it yourself? Did you use STS or CS?

no i've not tryed it before but the seeds i will be using should be labeled as a super auto because they generally take 100 days so i feel that the time constraints would not be an issue , as ive grown them before and they usually show sex in 14 days and finish flowering in 100, ill be sure to save pollen and use on the next female should i not be able to collect the s1's from the 1st female selected. pity so many people have failed hopefully luck will turn in my favor. I will be using colloidal silver from Natural Path Silver Wings company, hopefully it works if it doesnt ill be making my own colloidal silver to guarantee viability.

 

[mckb024]

agreed, but what percentage of the strains out there contain intersex genes?
even if they are recessive! I am just worried this will become a problem in the future I don't want to start an argument blackbone. peace

 

[mckb024]

bigger plants..

which is my opinion destroys the basis of an autoflower.. which is kinda silly considering the word.. auto-flower..

because honestly, if I was to grow a big plant, it would be a DJ plant. I have not met one autoflower that could compete with a 'regular' seed..

I understand all the greatness with autos in outdoor scenarios.. I do, but indoor, I want them small and unique.


in my painted pictures.. autos are comical, break up the norm, short, flower quick.... and are just fun

this is short and comical?

spyder

I don't think so and she would be bigger if I didn't pollinate and tie her down! that sounds nasty!