Are you implying that rape and murder are only wrong when used in conjunction with one another?
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Are you implying that rape and murder are only wrong when used in conjunction with one another?
You never said the murder had to immediately follow the rape.
You never excluded kidnaping and imprisonment.
obviously She was raped, imprisoned, and then killed after the savior was born.
solving a mental puzzle is always fun.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.
enjoy...
yes that makes ALL the sense...
reaching much?
is it a murder suicide if i kill myself 33 years later?
ffs you are just a contrarian.
makes as much or more sense as comparing a therapist telling you you're in denial with denialism.
you did not say rape murder, you said rape and murder.
it is a murder and suicide if you kill yourself at some point in time after you have murdered someone.
I flipped it on you, you've been the contrarian for 8 pages,
you gave a ridiculous example, so I took up your tactics.
where did I ever say anything even close to 'denialism can never be used by both sides of an issue'
twisting my words is an asshole tactic to resort to.
if one side is denying without evidence, and the other side is refuting their denial with evidence...
then only one side is using denialism. Never said that was always the case or the only possible case, just that it was the case the thread was posted to discuss.
yup you sure did..
good for you
you "win"
have your cookie this time?
you're obsessed with the word win... I've never used it in that context anywhere in this thread. More word twisting tactic... tsk tsk tsk. You gonna call me zealot and cultist a few more times for good measure, maybe insult my intelligence again, too?
guess you have to try and come up with something to justify your trolling...
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Mezz Mezzrow
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I consider this highly unscientific. How does this prove there must be something other than the sun causing warming? It doesn't. There is a divergence on the chart starting around 1980. That's all it proves. Is the data even correct? By what methodology was it collected? If it is correct what could account for the divergence besides "greenhouse gas" emissions?
Mezz Mezzrow
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Hmmm...very interesting. What do you think this volcano chart would show if it was extended into the 2000's?
I'm not going to discuss your 'evidence' since you obviously have no interest in considering the mountain of evidence I pointed you toward. All your questions have been answered and I pointed you at the answers. I'm not about to spoon feed you.
Do your homework and you won't have to ask answered questions.
Consider the entire body of evidence, there is not going to be any single 'smoking gun'
No single post there proves anything, but in conjunction they form an undeniable bigger picture.
The specific diagram you questions showed temperature rising while solar irradience was falling, demonstrating that there are factors other than the sun driving the warming, you have to look at other evidences to demonstrate what is causing it. A background in basic physics helps, Most people who understand the physics of how greenhouse gasses work don't question the observable verifiable warming increased CO2 must cause.
Please bother to study up, if you are really sincere in your questions... the answers are there.
Do your homework and you won't have to ask answered questions.
Consider the entire body of evidence, there is not going to be any single 'smoking gun'
No single post there proves anything, but in conjunction they form an undeniable bigger picture.
The specific diagram you questions showed temperature rising while solar irradience was falling, demonstrating that there are factors other than the sun driving the warming, you have to look at other evidences to demonstrate what is causing it. A background in basic physics helps, Most people who understand the physics of how greenhouse gasses work don't question the observable verifiable warming increased CO2 must cause.
Please bother to study up, if you are really sincere in your questions... the answers are there.
Mezz Mezzrow
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I'm just saying you vouch for all the data on the site? You know that all of this data is correct? You know how they got it and everything? Because sometimes it is hard to model reality perfectly. People make mistakes, data is confounded by one thing or another, sometimes researchers even gild the lily, but you seem to be supremely confident in all the information on the site. Not only that, but you seem to consider it a prerequisite to read the site in order to be educated enough on the subject to talk about it. Maybe it really is the shit. I don't know. If I have time I will read more of it.
Forget about most people. That's part of my message. Science is retarded literally. What happened to Tesla's advanced technology? What we get is totally different than what is possible with things like that. Free energy. Imagine humanity's possibilities. Most scientists are too dumb to even think about that.
Cojito
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done. i've read every post. and "asshole's" putting it mildly. you sir are guilty of some major douchebaggery in this thread. and it's getting tiresome. not sure "tinted glasses" are your problem. you may need psychological help.
on the other hand, if Dagnabit is really Grat3fulh3ad's alter ego. and is only here to give us an annoying example of denialism, then i salute you sir. well done.
excellent thread Grat3fulh3ad. admire your patience. so bizarre that any of this is controversial tho'. perhaps scientific denialism is effective because most of us can't (or don't have the time/inclination/background) to digest all the climate data, and thus it's easier for us to accept/understand specific criticisms or endorsements. i think many folks end up relying on "experts." - i know i do. and maybe we all gravitate towards experts who seemingly support our worldview?
Note to self: never edit post when stoned lol.
So, that's your cop out?
If you don't want to study the information, the just say you have already made your mind up and don't really care to have your (apparently rhetorical) questions answered.
If you really care to have your questions answered, then you'll read.
the only funny thing about rape is how christians worship a makebelieve being who raped a poor ignorant virgin a couple thousand years ago, supposedly. Though if you read the bible carefully, it clearly states the father was some guy called gabriel who claimed to be a fairy or angel or some such. Now if you want to discuss denialism.............
see head, i do know what you were doing and saying, but i think you were too subtle.
see head, i do know what you were doing and saying, but i think you were too subtle.
Mezz Mezzrow
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What I've read so far on the site is not good.
I mean they just threw that in there with nothing to support it. Just let the facts speak for themselves. It's like if I said there is no mail delivery today so the only explanation for the neighbor's dog barking is that there is another dog wandering around outside. It's a fallacy. What is that one called? You know "It's not that, so it must be this."Until about 1960, measurements by scientists showed that the brightness and warmth of the sun, as seen from the Earth, was increasing. Over the same period temperature measurements of the air and sea showed that the Earth was gradually warming. It was not surprising therefore for most scientists to put two and two together and assume that it was the warming sun that was increasing the temperature of our planet.
However, between the 1960s and the present day the same solar measurements have shown that the energy from the sun is now decreasing. At the same time temperature measurements of the air and sea have shown that the Earth has continued to become warmer and warmer. This proves that it cannot be the sun; something else must be causing the Earth's temperature to rise.
So, while there is no credible science indicating that the sun is causing the observed increase in global temperature, it's the known physical properties of greenhouse gasses that provide us with the only real and measurable explanation of global warming.
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