find a respectable criminal defense lawyer. hire him for a menial task so you get lawyer-client confidentiality. tell him everything that you do. ask him how much it will cost to take that case to trial. give him the money. they will all accept pre-payment and if you ever want it back they will give it you. ask him how much bail in this case typical is... give that to someone you trust and know their number
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I live in a medical state and am under the plant count. I do not distribute.
I have no proof of income beyond my social security disability and recon it would look strange if I had a paid attorney. It might even be used as evidence of social security fraud if I did get pinched by a cop with a chip on his shoulder.
My defense fund is spent of prevention. Paying someone to mow my yard, be approachable to my neighbors, charcoal, and following the guidelines set by the state.
Fishermen don't go after little fish, though sometimes a little fish gets caught in a net.
I have no proof of income beyond my social security disability and recon it would look strange if I had a paid attorney. It might even be used as evidence of social security fraud if I did get pinched by a cop with a chip on his shoulder.
My defense fund is spent of prevention. Paying someone to mow my yard, be approachable to my neighbors, charcoal, and following the guidelines set by the state.
Fishermen don't go after little fish, though sometimes a little fish gets caught in a net.
village green
Member
I'm sure some of ya'lls experiences are different but some of these amounts sound crazy unless you're involved in some big operation or have a real record.
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TribalSeeds
Shit! A lawyer fund? I gotta take up donations to pay my electrical bill!
@CC
Hunter..... Knew how to party.......
Big players.....I mean big players...Know when the hit is going down.... And they perform appriopiate measures... That's what makes them a "big" player... Everybody else is rolling the dice.
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SeaMaiden
You don't need to go to that kind of trouble if all you want is someone on retainer. You just contact the attorney of your choice, ask 'em if they're taking new clients, what their retainer is and pay it.
In fact, this is a good way to keep your lawyer fund YOUR lawyer fund. It's much more difficult to seize.
For those who haven't experienced a criminal drug charge, either personally or via friends or family, I can assure you that it's too easy for $20,000 to go POOF! in no time flat, just like that. If you're involved in a criminal trial I can see the numbers jumping to six figures, and not only in the case of a kingpin drug dealer, either.
First time offense can knock you or your mom back $25,000, easy, especially if everyone insists on using private representation from the very beginning. In fact, IME, $10-$15K can go just during discovery.
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ak-51
Wouldn't professional ethics require them to report any ongoing criminal activity, even if they were your attorney? In searching for an attorney I had always imagined myself asking about cultivation and the costs associated with prosecution of it in a 3rd person kind of way. Like we would talk about it but I would stop short of flat out saying I was doing it. Obviously he/she would know what was going on, but not actually have direct concrete knowledge of it. I'm not sure at what point attorneys are compelled to report ongoing or future crimes; could use some insight there.
Is this common? I can have my attorney hold money allotted for litigation and they will give it back? I had always imagined that they would only hold retainer fees, which were usually non-refundable.
At least they know to have the transport cars cleaned each and every day. They know enough to walk around the vehicle to make sure that all lights are working. They know enough to shave and bathe every day so that they don't look like road trash.
And most importantly, if you're going to use things like newspapers to pack the load then at least they get off their asses and go to a bookstore and buy newspapers from a different city than the origin of the load.
It's called common sense.....
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blackosprey
Member
No. That is why he/she is YOUR attorney.
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ak-51
Found what I was thinking of:
American Bar Association Model Rules of Professional Conduct: Rule 1.6
So there are some circumstances where they can and should breach attorney-client privileged. It looks like it's limited to situations where the attorney believes that the client will cause substantial harm or financial damage to an entity. I personally don't think cultivation would fall into any of those categories.
I'm amazed at some of these figures.. maybe I dont live in such a bad place after all.
Around here (non-med state).. the layer typically wants $2500 and there isn't a judge in the county that wont make it go away for 5k. They are all corrupt as they come and $$ makes you "not such an evil drug dealer" after all.
$7500 around here - pretty good chance you'll be OK. I'm talking cultivation less then 100 plants w/o guns. Might not be the case for all lawyers, but ex prosecutors (now defense attorneys) will gladly work it all out on their next golf outing or lunch with the judge.
That said I feel sorry for all of the growers who spend their profits as they get them as if they'll have this income forever. I know several folks who've been busted after years of commercial growing..only to be broke as fuck looking to borrow money for legal fees. WTF?
Not just growers, but it seems as though a mass % of Americans have no idea what savings are. They have no desire or feel the need to save.
Around here (non-med state).. the layer typically wants $2500 and there isn't a judge in the county that wont make it go away for 5k. They are all corrupt as they come and $$ makes you "not such an evil drug dealer" after all.
$7500 around here - pretty good chance you'll be OK. I'm talking cultivation less then 100 plants w/o guns. Might not be the case for all lawyers, but ex prosecutors (now defense attorneys) will gladly work it all out on their next golf outing or lunch with the judge.
That said I feel sorry for all of the growers who spend their profits as they get them as if they'll have this income forever. I know several folks who've been busted after years of commercial growing..only to be broke as fuck looking to borrow money for legal fees. WTF?
Not just growers, but it seems as though a mass % of Americans have no idea what savings are. They have no desire or feel the need to save.
Certainly raising a family makes saving a little more challenging...but even more so important & necessary.
I was more referring to commercial growers (or even guys with a few 1000s) that immediately blow the profits from their labor without ever setting aside the funds for future events unknown.
I just dont like it when friends running 8000w 6 times a year coming running to borrow money for their "legal fund" because they set absolutely nothing aside while pulling down 40k harvests. Hard to be willing to help people like this.
Thats all dansbuds, didn't mean to sound like a dick to those struggling to keep their family afloat in a shit economy and workforce.
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ak-51
Care to explain your legal costs a little further? Like how much you were running, what you were charged with, how long litigation stretched out, whether or not you were happy with your lawyer for the amount of money you spent, if you thought you saved enough or maybe if you thought you should have saved more.
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Mtn Dew
Good friends with a lawyers 2 daughters . They were on my diving team any way. Exactly what u just said is what I was told from his mouth " I play golf with these guys on sat and sunday all will be well. Just Trust me"
I wasn't in trouble for canna related crimes but was in trouble for
No L's
Speeding
Felony Flea and Eluding (5.0 stroked 331 on 8lbs boost 5spd 540hp) I had a chance LMAO
No Seat Belt
No Insurance
8th DUS (driving under susp)
Wreckless op
Failure to Stop for peace officer
Peeling and squilling
Endangering public "hit speeds of 140mph on highway 70-100 in the city"
Left to center several times (was taking race lines in/out of curves)
All I was charged with was Peeling and squilling due to picture evidence ,wreckless op and No insurance . No felonys stuck . IMO its who u know cost me bout 1200$ for the whole ordeal. Cop who caught me was amazed at how easy I pulled away from them at will.To the point he asked if he could pop my hood. Ill just say 3rd gear is no slouch
I spent 10 k and things don't look so good for me. My first choice wanted 40 k just to get started
word bro. 100mph on city streets. you must be the only person in your little universe. if i ever saw u i'd slap you in the face and then roll my super duty over your fucking hood. and then i'd teach you to spell. /rant
