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BAKED_BEANZ
you still want tested mothers for clones though . know what your end result is going to be.
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What's the best way to start a large amount of plants, seeds or clones?
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Purple Jungle
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Yeah, the other thing that I overlooked while thinking now, even though I had previously realized it, is that for my main spots I only need clones of GDP and TGA's Train because of the purple traits, so thanks for keeping me in check. So there's that confusion now 
I am under a lot of pressure to get this right..
It's not just you, I am all about variety as well, people swearing by clones.. to me that's overdoing it a bit to be honest (not that I miss the point), it's not like we're growing herb crossed with hemp, it's all dank material anyway. Not to mention that say 10 kilos of exactly the same bud would get the masses bored, I am not dumping huge quantities at once.
Still, fem seeds seem to be the way to go, I will do what I can in the time that I have until May, including stress testing, and surely hope that I will manage it.
I am under a lot of pressure to get this right..It's not just you, I am all about variety as well, people swearing by clones.. to me that's overdoing it a bit to be honest (not that I miss the point), it's not like we're growing herb crossed with hemp, it's all dank material anyway. Not to mention that say 10 kilos of exactly the same bud would get the masses bored, I am not dumping huge quantities at once.
Still, fem seeds seem to be the way to go, I will do what I can in the time that I have until May, including stress testing, and surely hope that I will manage it.
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grow from fem seeds is the easiest because you can start them outdoors.
best phenos clones gives the highest quality, but def not the easiest way to grow.
best phenos clones gives the highest quality, but def not the easiest way to grow.
DONAJTHEIII
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I really dont see the point of this thread ???? dont we all start with cuttings ??? whether its moms we got from seeds or clones from the strip club down the block (cannabis club)
Im really confused. If your asking this question im guessing you havent every ran an indoor set up ?
Im really confused. If your asking this question im guessing you havent every ran an indoor set up ?
CosmicCharlie
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How is it that you would have to have more clones than seed plants?
SvenB
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I know some borderline commercial growers in MI that don't or VERY rarely clone. They just buy clones. Selling clones to large grows is a legit way to eat up there.
if you want to run 100 plants from seed non feminized, your gonna need about 150 or more ...some wont germ/runts and some will be male...not the way to go...yeehaw...feminizing strains aint always easy ..some strains don't make it easy ...be ready to manually open some male flowers...be prepared for some failures...clones are easy put momma under decent light add co2 and watch her take off....get all the clones you could want fast...
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BAKED_BEANZ
putting in 3 or 4 times the amount of plants you think you will need is a must . if you want to hit your target . as stoned -trout said runts, males shitty ones in general damaged ones on transit , pest affected plants , mold affected plants ect
the simplest easiest way is from seed . simple . this is getting over complicated . as long as you have decent seed stock your fine. keep it simple .
let me ask you a question ! if you put in 3 or 4 times the amount and you ended up with more than you wanted are you going to be pissed off ? well its not a question really is it !
invest your time into prepping spot, taking care off them, find a few remote locations to put some plants to make seeds for next year .
the simplest easiest way is from seed . simple . this is getting over complicated . as long as you have decent seed stock your fine. keep it simple .
let me ask you a question ! if you put in 3 or 4 times the amount and you ended up with more than you wanted are you going to be pissed off ? well its not a question really is it !
invest your time into prepping spot, taking care off them, find a few remote locations to put some plants to make seeds for next year .
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CoCoSativas
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You can earn a living selling cuts in any city...
Yeah this is real simple and I agree with pittymick. Go start a bunch of seeds... it just makes more sense. Fuck if you have a decent pair make your own it costs you nothing...
Purple Jungle
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Agreed.
I'll focus on just two spots where I could go often.
I am ditching my third spot that's hard to reach. I've already had done a few days work on it. It was a tough decision...
I hiked the hell out of the area the past few days and there are no other good spots.
So all seeds the following season and I 'll make fem seeds for the next one without taking such risks and being pressured by time.
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Now I am wondering, how many hours of daylight do you guys get when you start your seeds?
That's a very good website to use to look up daylight on a given day, if you're not sure.
Purple Jungle
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That's the plan yes. However, as I cannot ask someone local for planting times, I am interested in around what daylight hours per day do you guys plant to avoid any issues. I would plant mine early May easy based on temperature, but we get 14 hours of daylight then, should I be considering this at all?
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BAKED_BEANZ
Agreed.
I'll focus on just two spots where I could go often.
I am ditching my third spot that's hard to reach. I've already had done a few days work on it. It was a tough decision...
I hiked the hell out of the area the past few days and there are no other good spots.
So all seeds the following season and I 'll make fem seeds for the next one without taking such risks and being pressured by time.
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Now I am wondering, how many hours of daylight do you guys get when you start your seeds?
That's a very good website to use to look up daylight on a given day, if you're not sure.
use the hard to get to location to make some beans . don't need to visit much for seeds . put some water crystals in the holes .
use one male , you,ll have one f2 and several crosses of what you decide to leave there .
you can plant a fair few , as time go,s on select the strains your leaving and male your using pull the rest . you may want to leave multiple males from same strain .
just a thought anyway .
the post above is the go too, 3 to a hole select the best kill the rest . i put 4 . find myself left with 2 nice girls per hole . then select the best of the 2 . it sux pulling girls put the end result is worth it .
Purple Jungle
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I've seen some Humboldt growers on instagram having 3 females per pot in all of them, so why not leave all females instead?
https://www.instagram.com/p/6qHWWCP0Az/?tagged=blueberryhashplant
https://www.instagram.com/p/6qHWWCP0Az/?tagged=blueberryhashplant
Agreed but i suggest u use 3 best males kill the earliest and latest to show males.
Watch for smell on the males also making your own seeds is lots of fun and great learning experience
Yeah you could do that but you could also try both methonds and see whats up.I like one plant per hole method both can be good.
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BAKED_BEANZ
i,ve tested this many times . you end up with a larger yield from one plant vs 3 per hole .
guessing its competition for nutrients , light and space. 3 per hole all the inner branches on the inside don't get the light . this is my experience though . can't speak for others. if you look back through shcrews outdoor thread you will see he put 3 per bag in some . check the difference in size out . i presume just by the pics his single containers produced more bud. keep in mind those were plants that had access to lots of root space and nutrients , too .
Yes this method with 3 plants could work but not with guerrilla maybe with a backyard grow and plant training methods.
If you do guerrilla one or two plants may be better
