What Makes it 'Medical Grade' ???

[Truth]

yes...

early = heady (yes even indica strains)

normal = a bit of both

later = stony

too late = oops!

 

[Guest]

Yea a friend gave me some marinol.20 mils I think I did 2 10 mil pills and felt nothing,nada zilch

 

[NuggyBuds]

Yea a friend gave me some marinol.20 mils I think I did 2 10 mil pills and felt nothing,nada zilch

that's because marinol is synthisized THC and contains no cannibanoids, which help deliver the THC.

Nothing will beat the real thing, that's why it's still illegal

 

[Guest]

Well they fucked up with their synthesizing the nazis did methadone diluadid a few other synthetic morphine drugs when we bombed their morphine factories and they did a hell of a job too!Whoever synthesized cannabis wasnt a true synthesizor lol

 

[Guest]

organic, chemical....its all about the genetics man. you still have alot to learn. the only reason why organic can be smelly/flavorful is because of the biological processes that go on with the organics. the main difference between organic and chemical is in chemical, the nutes are available in their raw form all the time, and in organic, they are not, the nutes are released at a slower pace. and flushing a chemical grow will not still leave you with a chemical taste (in fact, chemical tastes usually come from over feeding). if you want more flavors and taste, you can supplement chemical with organics, carbs, sweeteners, enzymes, etc.

I agree genetics are a huge deal and i always make sure i have the best, but i figure if the stuff i'm smoking is harmful to me because of mold, mites or chemicals that make it hash and harmful there is no way it is medical grade.

Somthing medical implyies it helps more than it hurts, and i know swag hurts :O Also i have never taisted better cleaner herb than organics.

 

[ezbake]

what the heck dose med grade smoke have anything to do with what its feed
i would say what makes a strain of canibis a med strain would be TCH content the higher percentage the better.

lol, very true what makes it medical is the THC content but... how do you achieve a high thc content? Using the right nutrients and having a good grow room.

So yes, the nutrients you feed it do influence the thc content and quality... as people have said pot fed lots of chemicals will look different, smoke different, taste different, then pot grown with organic nutrients.

 

[Breezy420]

lol, very true what makes it medical is the THC content but... how do you achieve a high thc content? Using the right nutrients and having a good grow room.

So yes, the nutrients you feed it do influence the thc content and quality... as people have said pot fed lots of chemicals will look different, smoke different, taste different, then pot grown with organic nutrients.

Genetics matter 1000x more than being organic fed or chemical fed. Organic fed plants arent going to have more thc than plants fed with chemical nutes.


Shit Genetics in = Shit product out no matter what you feed it.

 

[ezbake]

Well yes that's true, bad genetics will be bad no matter what. But I have always been told that a organic crop tastes better, smells better, and is more potent than non-organic, isnt this true?

And as far as genetics go.. I have 3 different strains from Mandala Seeds (mandalaseeds.com)
I have Hashberry, Sadhu, and Satori, all are medical potential they say - you think I can achieve medical grade with these genetics/strains ?

 

[Dan42nepa]

Genetics matter 1000x more than being organic fed or chemical fed. Organic fed plants arent going to have more thc than plants fed with chemical nutes.


Shit Genetics in = Shit product out no matter what you feed it.

Here we go again.... same old argument.

 

[Guest]

Wow that should be no argument at all,it is all in the genetics.

 

[Guest]

Crap grown under the best hydro conditions with the best organic fert is still gonna be crap,no matter what you do lol

 

[Truth]

both matter. some strains are more potent than others. if you grow a strong strain shitty, it will be shitty. if you grow a weak strain well, it can still be of use (might just need to smoke more), and definitely better than most schwag you will see. Hell, I can even see some properly grown lowryders as being stronger than most schwag people get a hold of. The thing that also matters if the canniboid ratios, THC, CBN, CBD, etc, there are many. of course a highly potent strain of say 25%, will not be useful to a medicinal user if it has much higher ratio's of THC to CBN

 

[D0nC0smic]

I agree wth truth, if you take a bag seed from the worst mexibrick swag you have ever smoked and grow it out under good conditions and then cure the bud right, alot of the time you will get a pretty decent sativa

 

[ezbake]

Yeah, I have taken bag seed and gotten pretty good smoke, it wasn't medical by any means but it was good - better than beasters.

Does the amount of THC to CBN vary by strain or by growing conditions/nutes?

And can you explain what you mean by :

The thing that also matters if the canniboid ratios, THC, CBN, CBD, etc, there are many. of course a highly potent strain of say 25%, will not be useful to a medicinal user if it has much higher ratio's of THC to CBN


Thanks

 

[hashstar]

Medical Grade = Organic flushed, not harmful, grown as naturally as possable
Heads = Chemical, may or may not be flushed but still has chemical taiste. The buds sometimes just don't seem natual etc.

LOL...anyone who knows how to grow using raw salts would laugh at that...I dare any organic grower to try to scientifically tell me the difference in plant processes between raw salts and organics

 

[Guest]

After growing the same pheno for about 15 grows and making mistakes along the way,like switching dolomite and having my plants turn totally yellow on me in veg,the outcome after it cleared up a bit was almost identical to when I vegged them perfectly,this tells me genetics matter much more.On the other hand,I havent had good experiences like you people mention grabbing a seed out of a bag of pot and planting indoors,on the two grows I tried the erb was hermaphrodactic and lousy,grown under good conditions.Both may matter,but its obvious to me which matters most and its genetics.

 

[Guest]

That was going by what the clubs say, i'm not saying that all chemcialy grown pot is bad, i have gotten very good comercialy grown herb with GH nutes that has been flushed very well, but i do still feel that organics taiste and are the best. I just hate the taiste of chemicals it better taiste like good ganja and not be harsh.

 

[Truth]

when you are in pain, taste isn't going to matter as much as potency. give me 20% THC and a tasteless bud over an 8% THC funky smelling bud any day (even though smell and strength usually go hand in hand, this is not always the case). You can always make hash or water cure too. You can add supplements to chemical for taste. only adding too much nutrients (which doesn't necessarily mean burn or excessive burn) along with the lack of organic processes at the root zone (by-products from the bacterias is what adds to the tastes) makes the taste and smell bad, it is just simply harder to over feed with organics. also a quick dry and improper cure can add to bad taste. it isn't like the nutrients build up more in a chemical plants vs an organic plant when both are healthy and not over-fed, the plant uses every bit of it accordingly. try adding dye to your nute solution...this won't make the plants change colors. organics still contain NPK and micro nutrients, its all the same stuff just in a different form without the by-products of the organisms used to break down the nutrients for the plants. again, it isn't the taste of the chemical nutes, it is the lack of the biological processes by the sub-cultures, along with improper curing and drying. curing helps break down chlorophyl. also if your nutes aren't balanced well, and you add too much of something to the solution, you will alter the taste. I would go for a 3 day flush, organic or not.

 

[ezbake]

Hey Hashstar, you seem like you know everything.
What do you think about what Truth just said?
I'd say he has it dead on.

 

[Guest]

Well i have grown in dwc using gh nutes, and pureblend. While the gh plants got bigger buds that where denser and still very potent i felt that the organic ones just taisted better and had the best high overall. I'm sure if you grew gh plants with all there additives perfectly they would be almost as good. BTW i try to only grow clones so are you saying that all my plants are medical quality off the bat, i think not, it's up to them being healthy plants, maintained by me.