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What is fracking and why is it controversial?

yortbogey

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What is fracking and why is it controversial?

How fracking recovers natural gas from shale


Drilling companies suggest trillions of cubic feet of shale gas may be recoverable from underneath parts of northern England, through a process known as "fracking".

Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, is a technique designed to recover gas and oil from shale rock. But how does it work and why is it controversial?

What is fracking?

Fracking is the process of drilling down into the earth before a high-pressure water mixture is directed at the rock to release the gas inside. Water, sand and chemicals are injected into the rock at high pressure which allows the gas to flow out to the head of the well.

The process is carried out vertically or, more commonly, by drilling horizontally to the rock layer. The process can create new pathways to release gas or can be used to extend existing channels.


Why is it called fracking?

It is shorthand for hydraulic fracturing and refers to how the rock is fractured apart by the high pressure mixture. Experts also refer to a "frac job" and a "frac unit".

Why is it controversial?

The extensive use of fracking in the US, where it has revolutionised the energy industry, has prompted environmental concerns.

The first is that fracking uses huge amounts of water that must be transported to the fracking site, at significant environmental cost. The second is the worry that potentially carcinogenic chemicals used may escape and contaminate groundwater around the fracking site. The industry suggests pollution incidents are the results of bad practice, rather than an inherently risky technique.

There are also worries that the fracking process can cause small earth tremors. Two small earthquakes of 1.5 and 2.2 magnitude hit the Blackpool area in 2011 following fracking.

"It's always recognised as a potential hazard of the technique", says Professor Ernie Rutter from the University of Manchester, "But they're unlikely to be felt by many people and very unlikely to cause any damage."

Finally, environmental campaigners say that fracking is simply distracting energy firms and governments from investing in renewable sources of energy, and encouraging continued reliance on fossil fuels.

"Shale gas is not the solution to the UK's energy challenges," said Friends of the Earth energy campaigner Tony Bosworth. "We need a 21st century energy revolution based on efficiency and renewables, not more fossil fuels that will add to climate change."

What are the advantages of fracking?

Fracking allows drilling firms to access difficult-to-reach resources of oil and gas. In the US it has significantly boosted domestic oil production and driven down gas prices. It is estimated to have offered gas security to the US and Canada for about 100 years, and has presented an opportunity to generate electricity at half the CO2 emissions of coal.

The industry suggests fracking of shale gas could contribute significantly to the UK's future energy needs. A report by the Energy and Climate Change Committee in April said shale gas in the UK may help to secure energy supplies, but may not bring down gas prices.

Where is fracking taking place?

Reserves of shale gas have been identified across swathes of the the UK, particularly in the north of England. However no fracking is currently taking place, and drilling firms must apply for a fracking licence if they wish to do so in the future.
 

sutra1

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Gasland1 & Gasland 2............fu&; fracking. They are doing it all over this area. My brother sold the recovery rights to his property in the Pocono mountain area. Totally regrets it, the noise and the shitty access road the gas company built ruined his property..........
 

Wiggs Dannyboy

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Here is one source:

http://www.catskillmountainkeeper.org/our-programs/fracking/whats-wrong-with-fracking-2/

Like many environmental situations, to understand the issue one must take some time and read articles that have been well researched and written. It involves science, and science isn't the easiest of subjects to understand, for many people.

And always take with a grain of salt anything said by someone who stands to benefit financially from the issue in question. Energy companies have tons of money to hire "experts" and have those experts spin the logic to make it seem like it is totally harmless and just a great way to create jobs.

There have been a few really good documentaries made about fracking over the last few years. I think the most well known is a doc called Gasland The Movie. There is a part 1 and now they have a part 2, which I'm thinking is a follow up.

Here is a link to the film's website:

http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/
 

Crusader Rabbit

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In the US it has significantly boosted domestic oil production and driven down gas prices. It is estimated to have offered gas security to the US and Canada for about 100 years, ...


What I've read is that in the US there is a natural gas rush to access the low hanging fruit which will last about ten-fifteen years. After that, extracting what remains is not really economically viable. The result will be another big economic bubble in a boom and bust cycle leaving us unprepared for the bust times.
 

BudToaster

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oh, no, it is much bigger than what you suggest, Mr. Rabbit. There is reported to be frackable natural gas (methane) all over the fucking world. and our politicians (bill and hillary included) all think the best thing to do is get it all.

from gas land part 2 (i think, or something else i read) that 80% of frack wells will fail within 30 years. and how can they not fail ... rock is harder than concrete and it is being fractured, as will the concrete.

fracking will poison all the world's fresh drinking water. i hope the assholes that sell their drilling rights get enough money to buy water. no, actually, fuck them.
 

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From FireDogLake

Children Given Lifelong Ban From Talking About Fracking As Water Activists Labeled Terrorists By Government
By: DSWright Wednesday August 7, 2013 10:21 am


The absurd world of natural gas exploitation just keeps on producing wild stories. First there was the revelation of the Halliburton Loophole that Vice President Cheney instituted, exempting fracking from many environmental regulations, including the Clean Water Act. Then the stories of people lighting their tap water on fire due to natural gas from fracking getting into the water supply. And now we learn that natural gas companies demanded that children be included in a lifelong gag order over fracking abuses.

Two young children in Pennsylvania were banned from talking about fracking for the rest of their lives under a gag order imposed under a settlement reached by their parents with a leading oil and gas company. The sweeping gag order was imposed under a $750,000 settlement between the Hallowich family and Range Resources Corp, a leading oil and gas driller. It provoked outrage on Monday among environmental campaigners and free speech advocates.

The Hallowich family had earlier accused oil and gas companies of destroying their 10-acre farm in Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania and putting their children’s health in danger. Their property was adjacent to major industrial operations: four gas wells, gas compressor stations, and a waste water pond, which the Hallowich family said contaminated their water supply and caused burning eyes, sore throats and headaches.

At least in that case it was the result of a – clearly unconstitutional – settlement. The family felt strong-armed, but they needed to move after the frackers wrecked their farm so they agreed to the ridiculous terms.

But now apparently citing water quality and contamination concerns is an “act of terrorism.”

A Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation deputy director warned a group of Maury County residents that unfounded complaints about water quality could be considered an “act of terrorism.”

“We take water quality very seriously. Very, very seriously,” said Sherwin Smith, deputy director of TDEC’s Division of Water Resources, according to audio recorded by attendees. “But you need to make sure that when you make water quality complaints you have a basis, because federally, if there’s no water quality issues, that can be considered under Homeland Security an act of terrorism.”

Since when? Was this part of the Cheney Agenda as well?

Are you enjoying the wonderful freedom and independence domestic energy production is giving us? It has freed us from importing more oil from the Middle East – though it does seem like we imported their political practices. Lifetime gag orders for children, and anyone who questions what energy companies do to the environment is a terrorist – independence feels great.
 

Jbomber79

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mmm homeland security.. sounds like the script should be flipped.. The day will come when our natural resources will be so contaminated we won't be able to call them resources.
 

wantaknow

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close they set off c4 charges that fracture the rock/ground first then mix the sand and chemicals and pressuse the fractured area to seperat the rock ground to allow excaping of gas
 

headband 707

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Looks like both the US and Canada have been sold out to Multi Nationals and they will get their pound of flesh one way or the other headband 707
 

HempKat

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It is unfortunate that we have yet to learn that the cheapest, easiest way to energy is not necessarily the best. We avoid things like nuclear energy still for fear of what might happen in a catastrophe because we've been trained to fear nuclear radiation and it's impact is quick and dramatic. Yet we blithely ignore the harms of petroleum based energy both in extracting and using it because we've been trained to think of it as good and the harms of it are less obvious and happen over a much slower period of time that it might not even affect us directly.
 

Jbomber79

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sometimes thinking logical doesn't always lead to economic success when dealing with a reality centered around money.
 
:laughing: c4 charges?

Been in the industry over 15 years now, c4 isnt part of it bubs.

Regardless of one persons misinformation, this process is taking its toll. We experienced "unnatural" earthquakes (2-3 magitude) after a long winter of fracking 10-15 well pads, each well having up to 15-20 frac port intervals.

That much pumping pressure pressure, @ 90mpa/15k PSI
That much fluid, millions of liters of water

How could that have a price tag attached to it?

If theres a new way, Ill be the first in line...
 

HempKat

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sometimes thinking logical doesn't always lead to economic success when dealing with a reality centered around money.

Yes but when it comes to money you can't always follow logic. In the early days of the auto industry Ford and other manufacturers could have made a lot more money per car then they did. It's likely for the best that they didn't though because it was the ability for virtually everyone to afford a car that got the country hooked on cars. The manufacturers I think had the vision to see that they had to give up profit early on to make even more profit later.

Who is more successful? The person who always makes huge profit but goes under after a while or the person that gives up a lot of profit early on but in the process recovers it and makes more by making their product a necessity that all can afford and positions themselves as the best known source?
 

wantaknow

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well i haul frac sand bubs ,can post pictures of on site ,how the hell do you possable think the fracturing takes place ?why do you think all the small quakes happen?when wire line is called in the do the down hole ,and why do they have those explosive placards on the wire line truck for ?you need to read more or work in my part of the country,liters of h20 ,hell your not even in the us ,what are you a cunuck?seriously ,
 

BudToaster

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at least the US government should make the fracking industry subject to the clean water and clear air regulations. instead, heartless Chaney got the industry exempted. how many $billions do these fucks need to accumulate? all of them, evidently.
 

camra

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The industry has been fracking for 30 years, it may e problematic, but it is not new and it uses no explosives. People say funny things....;
 

BudToaster

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it may e problematic


ya think? failing wells that poison the ground water ... yeah, that's problematic.

i gotta stay out of the 'Den. these threads bum me the fuck out. gf does that pretty well too. must just be me.
 
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