What i harvest from 200W CFL :) Njoint !

[TribalSeeds]

I just looked over your other threads...
Id suggest you spend a little bit of $ on just a couple of things before you get started for next run.
Buy yourself proper PH and TDS pens and the calibration solution bottles for the pens. Do another grow in your tent with the same light and make sure to post what medium youre using, what ph your water is going in, what ph it comes out, and the same with your TDS readings. Also keep us posted on the temperature and humidity of the grow area. With all of those facts you will get a little more help from asking on the forums. Once youre able to understand those parameters and what they mean to your crop you probably wont need much help(Maybe a little from time to time).

 

[thefanfx]

you did good work

what I did was check out your other thread

the pics of the first leaves are heat and pH


the pics of the second leaves are old age, completely normal

yes m8 it looks like overheating and pH but it was uknoun issue

temp was constant 24 Celsius and pH was constantly between 6.2 and 6.9

no one was able to define why the symptoms are similar to heat and pH but

something happen , but no one knows what actually

and the old aged leaves are too early i got them before 14 days , at today date all leaves where dead except the top little one which where rolled in and dying with dry ends

shit happens , you never know what sh** can knock on your door

GL and 10x

 

[thefanfx]

I just looked over your other threads...
Id suggest you spend a little bit of $ on just a couple of things before you get started for next run.
Buy yourself proper PH and TDS pens and the calibration solution bottles for the pens. Do another grow in your tent with the same light and make sure to post what medium youre using, what ph your water is going in, what ph it comes out, and the same with your TDS readings. Also keep us posted on the temperature and humidity of the grow area. With all of those facts you will get a little more help from asking on the forums. Once youre able to understand those parameters and what they mean to your crop you probably wont need much help(Maybe a little from time to time).

as i mentioned above

i got constant temperature 24 Celsius (i got temp meeter inside my tent which i checked each 6 hours)

i have 2 pH meeters digital and another one with pointer , daily checking pH it was always between 6.2 and 6.9 (in addition in Czech our water have pH 6.8 - 7.0)

i used soil BioBizz from growshop specially for Weed with coco and bat guano and etc

but as i mentiond you never know what decease or bug will knock on your door and try to screw you up

GL

 

[thefanfx]

So dear all

just to conclude all till now

i did all i can with all had , following constantly all your feedback , posting once per 3 days on my grow log here

the temperature and pH and all other basics where measured daily and carefully kept in proper order

i used your feedback as well when i got my plants deceased and i used all your feedback to try to cure them

unfortunately in our grow experience we always have one word "if" which is unpredictable , something can always happen and you can't be always prepared , but you can learn

i got what i can from 200W CFL , and i'm sure i took the right decision , better less earlyer , than nothing later

i'm sure you will do the same on my place

GL and i'm glad to have all behind my back when i need your help

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Root aphids? Salt build up? Over fed/watered?

 

[thefanfx]

Root aphids? Salt build up? Over fed/watered?

nope , roots where clean , no issues with salt etc , never overwatered , i had perfect pots with 100 holes and no water was able to stay in , all basic things where carefully kept eye daily

i had bad luck to meet unknown deceases with symptoms similar to known one

anyway it's all ended now

 

[Obsidian]

Hummus brought up a good point...Root Aphids do create the same type of damage you experienced, and it starts at day 25-30 into budding. maybe something to think about. plus you can't see root aphids with your eyes until they are fliers buzzing around, and then they look like gnats. RA are complex bugs known as the devil bug to growers, they go through 5 stages of development, and during any one stage can stay in that development until specific conditions are met and they morph to the next stage.

 

[thefanfx]

Hummus brought up a good point...Root Aphids do create the same type of damage you experienced, and it starts at day 25-30 into budding. maybe something to think about.

well after i cutted them i checked with microscope all my roots

all where pure white and clean , healthy as no other part from the plant , actually my roots were the only one perfect thing

it was not a bug related issue , it was something with efficiency/deficiency but i never figure it out

GL

 

[thefanfx]

btw here are closer pictures which i did 1 hours before to cut them down with my microscope of my cannabis trichomes

all balls where not crystal clear anymore but foggy , another sign that the plant is almost ready

 

[TribalSeeds]

Seriously guy? Your plants didnt grow for the first 3 months and you never did anything wrong? I went through that thread and I didnt notice once any mention of any of the parameters mentioned above.
Id suggest reading a book or two. You're not going to get anything out of any of the advice given to you on a growing forum if youre going to get defensive. Telling people who have grown plants before that you're unlucky and it was unfortunate that your plants didnt produce is a joke.
Sorry, I was trying to be nice. You see all those white hairs? There was no reason to even look at the crystals yet.
Peace

 

[thefanfx]

Seriously guy? Your plants didnt grow for the first 3 months and you never did anything wrong? I went through that thread and I didnt notice once any mention of any of the parameters mentioned above.
Id suggest reading a book or two. You're not going to get anything out of any of the advice given to you on a growing forum if youre going to get defensive. Telling people who have grown plants before that you're unlucky and it was unfortunate that your plants didnt produce is a joke.
Sorry, I was trying to be nice. You see all those white hairs? There was no reason to even look at the crystals yet.
Peace

go tru my post again ....

first 3 months i had no proper soil , i had no growbox , i had no 200W cfl

i started all with no single coin and only with good will , had my old box from vacuum cleaner and some 150W White CFL , and soil for garden flowers ,all for no money

every monkey can grow with 1000$ equipment , but most of us cannot afford it

with the time i got all necessary things one by one , in other way my grow was going to be finished a looong time ago , not to take 6 months

i did all i can with all i had , i did everything in perfect order (of course perfect in point of view with all available equipment)

so don't tell me that i missed something or i did something wrong

i have full blog page with daily chronic but unfortunatelly i'm not able to share it here , so you can see the progress day by day in super hi-res pics

so again all basics where followed perfectly , i did what everyone will and i did mistakes which everyone will do as well

attacking is not helpful approach and no one is perfect especially with not the best equipment

if anyone can clearly say , that he can get more at the end , than i got with my equipment i will shake his hand

AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING : my seeds where from the wild , i got them from the good old outdoor nature , not feminized , not modified , created on the old fashion way with outdoor AK and some wild male

so i can't get same result and amount from such seeds , but all are for free

GL to all

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Give them time...

Give them time...

Here's a pic of the Chem D clone I gre under CFL last year...she's pictured at 65days...I think I harvested her very soon after this:

Now I'm not saying all plants should look this beat up at harvest time (the D clone tends to look like shit that's for sure) but your buds should have been let to finish up properly...3 maybe 4 weeks more time...let them swell...let them cry out to be chopped!

I've found in the past that underestimating the pot size needed for the roots can cause visual simptoms similar to PH, aphids etc.

 

[thefanfx]

Here's a pic of the Chem D clone I gre under CFL last year...she's pictured at 65days...I think I harvested her very soon after this:

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Now I'm not saying all plants should look this beat up at harvest time (the D clone tends to look like shit that's for sure) but your buds should have been let to finish up properly...3 maybe 4 weeks more time...let them swell...let them cry out to be chopped!

I've found in the past that underestimating the pot size needed for the roots can cause visual simptoms similar to PH, aphids etc.

EEEEEXACTLY like mine except my leaves fall out totally and the buds became crumble (if you touch them they fall)

but as i said i had some deceases before that and i realized that my pot's are bit not enough big for such a big plants

AND ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING : my seeds where from the wild , i got them from the good old outdoor nature , not feminized , not modified , created on the old fashion way with outdoor AK and some wild male so i can't get same result and amount from such seeds, but for free i had no money to buy any and i did it with all i had even they are outdoor

GL

 

[señorsloth]

oh man those poor poor girls...they didn't deserve that life...i feel so bad that my ladies get is so good while others are suffering such terrible lives and early deaths...

 

[thefanfx]

oh man those poor poor girls...they didn't deserve that life...i feel so bad that my ladies get is so good while others are suffering such terrible lives and early deaths...

well m8 ,

the common between all of us is the good will

we all want to grow and to do our best , but not all of us can afford it on the best way , so over 50% of us are trying to do it cost free or with home made equivalents

and to be honest , these of us which are growing without the necessary equipment are the experts , not these with the fancy equipment and the alien form pictures , using every single product from the local growshop.....

GL to all

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Cal/Mag deficiency and too small a pot was my problem...but the buds were great!

Be careful those buds don't get too near the cfl's...they can pump out the heat.

 

[thefanfx]

Cal/Mag deficiency and too small a pot was my problem...but the buds were great!

Be careful those buds don't get too near the cfl's...they can pump out the heat.

you are right again , i'm sure my issue was because of the pot size , not related with any deficiency/efficiency or mistakes with watering and pH
and yes CFLs are bit heat producers , i'm going to use some special ventilation next grow

teaser of what's next

20Liter Air Smart Pots
Blueberry (Dutch passion 100% feminized)
2x200W CFL

will grow only 1 plant per one round so i can focus on it

GL

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Best of luck!

 

[hempluvr]

Dutch passion blueberry fem huh...with all those "diseases" running around ur grow room u should fix those issues and probably run something not so picky. Blueberry is known for being a picky hooker. Plus ur running fem too....good luck

 

[DeepestCover]

Trial and error. You'll only ever get good at growing cannabis by starting out at somewhere.

Your harvest looks awsome for a 200w cfl btw ! But as everyone has pointed out, the last couple of weeks are where the buds really start to get FAT. It might look ready to u, but it could double in size.

But as I said, trial and error.