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What i harvest from 200W CFL :) Njoint !

tetragrammaton

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... but you posted pictures of them cut down and hanging to dry? Did they get their disease afterwards? Because based on your harvest pic, there are plenty of green leaves that aren't even the good kind with trichomes, that would have served as solar panels to make your buds nice and fat and dense. Why are you getting so defensive? Just learn from your mistake.
 

thefanfx

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i thought there were no leaves left?

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they coulda went 2-3 weeks more easily.

these little leaves over the buds where the only one left no single big one , and as you can see from the pics all where rolled in to the bud not spread or straigh , i got them rolled in and after 2 days all became dead , i just decided to not wait till no single leaf left and the next dry thing to became the buds
 

tetragrammaton

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day 55 of what? because if you start 12/12, but it doesn't start flowering until 2 weeks later, then you start from the day it actually flowers. that plant is not mature. i've seen cfl grows with mature buds, i've seen white widow and ak 47 buds that are mature, and those aren't mature. i don't get why you're making excuses instead of trying to learn and take peoples advice?

but i really don't care like i said, as long as youre happy with it. the only people that would be happy with that would be someone whos only seen schwagg, and/or never seen real mature buds to compare to.
 

thefanfx

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... but you posted pictures of them cut down and hanging to dry? Did they get their disease afterwards? Because based on your harvest pic, there are plenty of green leaves that aren't even the good kind with trichomes, that would have served as solar panels to make your buds nice and fat and dense. Why are you getting so defensive? Just learn from your mistake.

no offence at all :) glad to get all feedback

but the reality was different , i was watching them dying last 3 weeks every single day had less and less leaves , didn't took pictures of their dead just because it was pain in the ass :) nothing good to share about my plants dying

last days 2 big buds where already crashed on the floor , the top of the buds where so crumble that you cannot even touch them without to brake them , and the leaves where falling down even from the fan

i got decease and i was not able to cure them it was super ugly and i decided to take what i can before to be too late

Thanks for all feedback and GL
 

tetragrammaton

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Based on your harvest pictures, there is no disease. The leaves look healthy and green, and the buds have a shit load of new growth that would have exploded in the next few weeks.
 

tetragrammaton

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But the thing is man, when plants are flowering, the big fan leaves turn extremely yellow, almost white, and just fall off, then the secondary leaves yellow and fall of, and at the bitter end, the only alive leaves will be the sugar leaves, which shouldn't be dark green, but more of a paler color. Also, the first pistils the plant makes always turn colors first, and then new ones are made, and seeds also are the first things to mature. if a plant is pollinated in the first week, those buds will mke seeds and mature the seeds, but the rest of the plant will continue to grow through its full life cycle.
 

skullznroses

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need 2 more weeks next time, way to early.
just because the seed were done does not mean the plant is ready to chop, totally illogical thought process

except for being a jerk you might be right, but hey thats what mouths are for///0

Nice grow under a 200w CFL -> Admirable

YOU KNOW THE OLD RULE< WHEN YOU THINK ITS DONE WAIT 2 WEEKS

Peace
 

Obsidian

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we're just trying to help.

time actually starts from the day you flip, not later, and most plants run 70 days especially AK48 like you have.
flowers come in at day 12-15 after flipping, that means another 60-65 days, the main signifier of harvest is watching the trichs turn to white to red purple brown.
peace enjoy
all is good
then you chop.
 

thefanfx

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Based on your harvest pictures, there is no disease. The leaves look healthy and green, and the buds have a shit load of new growth that would have exploded in the next few weeks.


yeah , as i said i have no pics from the last 14 days when the things became shitty i just quit taking pictures , i was almost sure that they will completely die even earlier than now

i got plastic off gassing , ACID soil issue , nutrition burn and thrips just to complete the hell

you can see my posts asking for help from before almost a month

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=243131

and

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=243876

25 days after these my plants where almost completely dead
 
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TribalSeeds

Hey dude, it looks like you did a good job at getting the plants what they needed to grow big buds...
I would take the advice you're being given and start trying to figure out what went wrong so that your next harvest goes well all the way through. It looks like you can pull off a decent grow with just the equipment that you have.
It looks like one of those strains was getting too much nutrient. I dont think it was about to die though.
Maybe next time you can start a grow journal and have the people here guide ou through it a bit so that they can help you understand the process every step of the way.
 

thefanfx

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HELP me to Define 2 Deceases Please !

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=243876

2 weeks after that post my plants where completely destroyed

no one can actually be more happy to get what i got from them even in this condition

probably all of you where going to put them on the garbage a lot sooner than me :)

so i again i was super surprised of what i got
 

tetragrammaton

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But based on your pictures of them hanging to dry, they don't look diseased. Theres plenty of green healthy leaf, and new pistils. Like I said, I'm not hating on your plant, and if you and your friends or whatever are happy with it, then cool, but next time, let them finish, and you'll look back on this as a learning experience.

And like obsidian was saying, with most modern hybrids taking around 70-75 days from the beginning of the actual switch of light cycle, your plants were short like 20 days minimum.
 

tetragrammaton

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TribalSeeds has the best advice really, next time just do a growlog here, and update it regularly, so everyone can just give you advice, and help you if you encounter any problems.
 

thefanfx

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Hey dude, it looks like you did a good job at getting the plants what they needed to grow big buds...
I would take the advice you're being given and start trying to figure out where you went wrong at the end so that your next harvest goes well all the way through. It looks like you can pull off a decent grow with just the equipment that you have.
It looks like one of those strains was getting too much nutrient. I dont think it was about to die though.
Maybe next time you can start a grow journal and have the people here guide ou through it a bit so that they can help you understand the process every step of the way.

YES and YES

now i'm more skilled than even

i had almost all possible problems and even with almost no equipment i got what i got

now i can figure out any kind of issue just with single look (of course you never know :p)

i passed them all with smile , i never lost hope and never give up from any plant :)

next grow will be PRO for sure

Blueberry seeds are on it's way , my LED as well

in few weeks i will start part 2 :)
 

thefanfx

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TribalSeeds has the best advice really, next time just do a growlog here, and update it regularly, so everyone can just give you advice, and help you if you encounter any problems.


i :) have grow log here , i did all like on the books , i have grow log , i have decease posts , i had questions and collected all possible feedback

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=240771

(i didn't update it for last 14 days just because it was too painfull to post pics how my plants are dying , all other updates are more than regular for each 3 days with 1 post )

i have 2 decease logs here as i mentioned above

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=243876
and the other post as well above


no one was able to help me enough to save them it was just part from the necessary experience , i did what i can

next time these issues will be skipped i guarantee

so this is it , i'm sure no one was going to get more than i got

GL
 

tetragrammaton

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well nevertheless, i'm interested in hearing about the final dry weight and a smoke report and dried pics. and don't feel bad or anything, growing is ALWAYS a learning experience, there's always new things to learn and new techniques, and I'd be willing to bet every grower has harvested a plant too early at one point for whatever variety of reasons.
 

Obsidian

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you did good work

what I did was check out your other thread

the pics of the first leaves are heat and pH
Decease one

All leaves are like umbrella curved in ? No idea what cause it

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the pics of the second leaves are old age, completely normal
Second decease

The leaves are loosing their shape , and each strain is twisted and deformed

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Please help me to define both deceases , i have them on my both plants , different on each WTF :(


offgasing shows brighter yellow along the edges of the leaves.
 

thefanfx

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well nevertheless, i'm interested in hearing about the final dry weight and a smoke report and dried pics. and don't feel bad or anything, growing is ALWAYS a learning experience, there's always new things to learn and new techniques, and I'd be willing to bet every grower has harvested a plant too early at one point for whatever variety of reasons.


yep and i know it was a bit early , but i had to choose , to get something early or to risk and possibly get nothing just because i can be greedy for more weight for 10 more days

i learned a lot , and again this is just with 1 200W CFL with no special nutrition , no expensive equipment , just with good will and a lot of effort

now i know how when and what to do

GROW 2 coming soon :)
 

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