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Sconeofark
Member
I swear by dry hanging.
Hang whole plants without removing fans for 4 to 6 weeks without touching them. By the time they are done the buds snap off the stem clean and leaves also snap off cleanly. smaller trim can be knocked off so I seldom use scissors.
Any trimming on a plant while it's still alive enough to root will cause the plant to react as though it's being grazed on. It will respond by tasting bad in an effort to drive off whatever is eating it.
Also the hang time gives the plant material time to properly clean out to a nice clean basket grass smell and the canabinol time to convert.
Drying this way not only gives me a better product. It also allows harvest to be broken up into a job requiring less people over a longer time. Once plants hang to a cure, the product will stay stable on the plant for a long time.
The enterage effect is our friend, try not to cook it out of your product.
Hang whole plants without removing fans for 4 to 6 weeks without touching them. By the time they are done the buds snap off the stem clean and leaves also snap off cleanly. smaller trim can be knocked off so I seldom use scissors.
Any trimming on a plant while it's still alive enough to root will cause the plant to react as though it's being grazed on. It will respond by tasting bad in an effort to drive off whatever is eating it.
Also the hang time gives the plant material time to properly clean out to a nice clean basket grass smell and the canabinol time to convert.
Drying this way not only gives me a better product. It also allows harvest to be broken up into a job requiring less people over a longer time. Once plants hang to a cure, the product will stay stable on the plant for a long time.
The enterage effect is our friend, try not to cook it out of your product.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
It's amazing what people call 'trimmed' these days. *sigh* If you dry trim, please trim the leaves off, thanks. 
I've been getting meds from other growers the last few months, and they're mostly 'dry trim'ers. I am sick and F'ing tired of pulling off a shitload of leaves, just to get to some flower inside. What a waste. And this is what some people call 'trimmed.' Just wow.
The idea of 'protecting the trichomes' on your flowers by keeping leaves on is nonsense. I assure you, when your flower is quality it won't make a difference when the leaves are all cut off. Your flowers will be just as frosty as when they went in the jar. Please spend time on methods which reduce your stem and leaf content, like better spectrum, lower CO2 and nitrogen, and possibly a change in your flowering environment.
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I've been getting meds from other growers the last few months, and they're mostly 'dry trim'ers. I am sick and F'ing tired of pulling off a shitload of leaves, just to get to some flower inside. What a waste. And this is what some people call 'trimmed.' Just wow.
The idea of 'protecting the trichomes' on your flowers by keeping leaves on is nonsense. I assure you, when your flower is quality it won't make a difference when the leaves are all cut off. Your flowers will be just as frosty as when they went in the jar. Please spend time on methods which reduce your stem and leaf content, like better spectrum, lower CO2 and nitrogen, and possibly a change in your flowering environment.
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imakandi
Member
It's amazing what people call 'trimmed' these days. *sigh* If you dry trim, please trim the leaves off, thanks.
I've been getting meds from other growers the last few months, and they're mostly 'dry trim'ers. I am sick and F'ing tired of pulling off a shitload of leaves, just to get to a little bit of poor quality flower inside. What a waste. And this is what some people call 'trimmed.' Just wow.
The idea of 'protecting the trichomes' on your flowers by keeping leaves on is nonsense. I assure you, when your flower is quality it won't make a difference when the leaves are all cut off. Your flowers will be just as frosty as when they went in the jar. Please spend time on methods which reduce your stem and leaf content, like better spectrum, lower CO2 and nitrogen, and possibly a change in your flowering environment.
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57 pages of
real grower
say wet trim is bad
but you say is good
ok
I am in agreement. Especially if it will be packed anyways. Might as well save the $120.
I will elaborate on my experience with wet vs dry trimming.
Firstly I would like to state that it is possible to get a likewise result with both methods.
The whole key to a quality end result, is not drying it out to quickly. If you trim wet then you jar earlier otherwise your product is going to dry to quick to much and be lacking compared to dry trim methods. If you trim wet and time it right, jar it on time it will cure out to a good likewise product. There is a curing thread on here that outlines jar curing, the truth is in there.
Trimming dry is more forgiving, because a whole plant hung up with its main stalk intact will continue to wick moisture into the nugs long after the plants hanging. The nugs can feel entirely dry on the outside to the touch and that main stalk still feeding enough moisture into the nugs to prevent them from overly drying making it a more forgiving method. If done properly and left for long enough it will certainly give you a quality product every time.
The only way to ruin the above tried and true method is by starting the final trim to early, if you hang the whole plant up and allow it to dry slowly over 14 to 21 days not 7 or 9 days because you feel like most of it feels dry to the touch but a true hang dry. You will end up with a good final product.
Both methods work and can produce a likewise result just needs proper execution either method can be ruined. Don't jar the wet trimmed quick enough and miss the cure, dry trim plants hung up to early and you miss the cure.
Firstly I would like to state that it is possible to get a likewise result with both methods.
The whole key to a quality end result, is not drying it out to quickly. If you trim wet then you jar earlier otherwise your product is going to dry to quick to much and be lacking compared to dry trim methods. If you trim wet and time it right, jar it on time it will cure out to a good likewise product. There is a curing thread on here that outlines jar curing, the truth is in there.
Trimming dry is more forgiving, because a whole plant hung up with its main stalk intact will continue to wick moisture into the nugs long after the plants hanging. The nugs can feel entirely dry on the outside to the touch and that main stalk still feeding enough moisture into the nugs to prevent them from overly drying making it a more forgiving method. If done properly and left for long enough it will certainly give you a quality product every time.
The only way to ruin the above tried and true method is by starting the final trim to early, if you hang the whole plant up and allow it to dry slowly over 14 to 21 days not 7 or 9 days because you feel like most of it feels dry to the touch but a true hang dry. You will end up with a good final product.
Both methods work and can produce a likewise result just needs proper execution either method can be ruined. Don't jar the wet trimmed quick enough and miss the cure, dry trim plants hung up to early and you miss the cure.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Totally agree, with the added caveat being better quality flowers make this easier.Blazeoneup said:
Indeed you are correct, and I also have most of the growers here in disagreement with me about a number of other subjects. However, there are a few growers on here who agree with me, and they also post the same type of results I grow for.57 pages of
real grower
say wet trim is bad
but you say is good
ok
Does this make you wonder about a few things? I should hope so.
Slow drying of the whole plant or with as much stem as possible and then trimming always got me the superior product
imakandi
Member
Totally agree, with the added caveat being better quality flowers make this easier.
Indeed you are correct, and I also have most of the growers here in disagreement with me about a number of other subjects. However, there are a few growers on here who agree with me, and they also post the same type of results I grow for.
Does this make you wonder about a few things? I should hope so.
yes
claim big things
say every body is wrong
only you correct
can always proof
or can give big text of why not
ask before for your diary
only cricket sound
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
This thread says you're incorrect, there are several here who understand this the same as I do. I happen to prefer a much more tightly manicured flower, which is much more difficult trim cleanly when dry. Personal preference.yes
claim big things
say every body is wrong
only you correct
As long as the slow dry is accomplished correctly, the end result is the same, minus trimming differences.
Who are you, and what exactly are you asking for here?
Do you see a bunch of leaf in this photo?
Welcome to ICMag! I have no recollection of you asking, yet my albums are plainly available for you to browse through.ask before for your diary
only cricket sound
'Boogieman'
Well-known member
I agree it's much harder to trim dry but since I trim 1 joint at a time it works for me and I trim pretty tight. I grow all my weed for the year outdoors so no way will I sit down and trim a few pounds if I don't have to.
imakandi
Member
This thread says you're incorrect, there are several here who understand this the same as I do. I happen to prefer a much more tightly manicured flower, which is much more difficult trim cleanly when dry. Personal preference.
As long as the slow dry is accomplished correctly, the end result is the same, minus trimming differences.
Who are you, and what exactly are you asking for here?
Do you see a bunch of leaf in this photo?
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Welcome to ICMag! I have no recollection of you asking, yet my albums are plainly available for you to browse through.
ok
so same photograph of small bud
no grow log
only find
mars hydro diary
what you say and what you show
very very dyfferent
is ok
have no need to discuss
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
I'm so sorry to have misunderstood. I, like the larger percentage of icmag, do not have a 'grow log.' I also take few photos, an old habit from a more prohibitive past.
I post my information across the whole forum, and have done so for years now. If you don't want to dig through all the sub-forums and find it, you'll have to wait for the second edition of my book. I just started research for a new section so the time frame is at least 2 years now.
imakandi
Member
I'm so sorry to have misunderstood. I, like the larger percentage of icmag, do not have a 'grow log.' I also take few photos, an old habit from a more prohibitive past.
I post my information across the whole forum, and have done so for years now. If you don't want to dig through all the sub-forums and find it, you'll have to wait for the second edition of my book. I just started research for a new section so the time frame is at least 2 years now.
real grower
know what is best
luck with 'second book'
lol
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming... lol
(Edit: Your life 'experience' is a reflection of how you view the world. When you find the world bothersome and full of horrible people, you really need to look in the mirror more often. Life is good, learn who you are and start enjoying it. )
(Edit: Your life 'experience' is a reflection of how you view the world. When you find the world bothersome and full of horrible people, you really need to look in the mirror more often. Life is good, learn who you are and start enjoying it.
)
Hey bud, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. LOL
AgentPothead
Just this guy, ya know?
Why do you type like this? It's very annoying to read and it conveys very little, if any, context.wet trim only
if risk of post harvest
problem
insect, mold, whatever
cocoon buds
is best
Sconeofark
Member
Well, there are other reasons I don't trim wet
Sometimes I don't trim at all
We all do what we do to suit.
Were I running a large extraction canopy I would be fresh frozinating my happy ass all the way to the bank.
My sole motivation for now is the quality of the end product.
Hanging whole plants and trimming dry not only gives a way better finish, it leaves a more stable product.
This means the job can be batched over a few weeks rather than hammered out over a weekend.
Sometimes I don't trim at all
We all do what we do to suit.
Were I running a large extraction canopy I would be fresh frozinating my happy ass all the way to the bank.
My sole motivation for now is the quality of the end product.
Hanging whole plants and trimming dry not only gives a way better finish, it leaves a more stable product.
This means the job can be batched over a few weeks rather than hammered out over a weekend.
