WET VS DRY Trimming

[Junk]

Well gee, that doesn't happen when I trim leaf, as I've done for 10+ years, so I have to say bogus.

You don't have to say anything.

But you are wrong. Here are numerous references to prove it. These are the references I put to the test with my small experiment.


https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/04/25/what-causes-the-smell-of-fresh-cut-grass/
https://www.plantphysiol.org/content/121/2/325.full
https://www.pnas.org/content/104/13/5467.full
https://www.pnas.org/content/104/13/5257.full

Grassy smell comes from warm cannabis,no cutting required.

FYI, you are very dismissive and pompous when you talk like this.

Trim it cool and keep it cool for zero grassy and 100% terp retention.

About the "zero grassy", it's wrong. Scientifically, documented, demonstrably wrong.

Like I said, grassy smell means you're doing it wrong. Nothing to do with cutting leaf.

Well since you said so....

 

[EvergreenState]

I tried a dry trim for the first time on my last grow. I found it much harder to get a nice trim on my buds because the tips of leaves that I would normally cut off were now stuck to the rest of the bud. The buds didn't look nearly as nice or kind of butchered when I tried to trim them off dry.
As far as the grassy smell goes I found that dissipated after about 10 days. I don't doubt what other growers are saying as far as improvement in long term fragrance from dry trimming. Especially if a grower wet trims some buds, dry trims some buds from the same strain and then compares the odors. If they say there was a clear difference, I believe them.
I didn't do that type of comparison so I can't comment on that. I simply had a harder time trimming buds as neatly when dry compared to wet.

 

[toxic hippie]

I dry trim. I’ve always found it easier and less sticky/messy.

 

[Hammerhead]

Semi Dry trimming has always produced our best. We don't let the plants dry completely, only the outer leaves are dry. No problems getting flowers trimmed with the entire leaf removed. Its easier bucking off larger leaves at the stem. Flowers I have seen Wet trimmed you can see most leaves where just cut in half leaving the base(petiole) still attached.

 

[Spaventa]

That lawn cuttings smell is one of 2 things - bad genetics, like Serious seeds Chronic for example, or dried too fast too warm. Good genetics don't smell like that no matter what Ive done with them and Ive had some rough runs over the years and that Chronic crap was the only thing Ive ever grown that smelt like hay. To be fair, it did change with some cure... to more like wet dog. It yielded and looked amazing and was strong enough. Shame about the hay thing. I ran several phenotypes several times with different methods because it was so good in every other regard but after a lot of trying, I realised that it was literally producing that terpene profile as a matter of course, nothing I did or didn't do.

 

[The Joker1]

Dry trimming can also be speedy. I used to wet trim exclusively, but control my drying. But with tiny buds like Cherry Pie, they wanted to dry out so fast they lost flavor. Smaller yielders get trimmed dry/ It helps slow them down. The opposite can be true for massive buds.

Now if you work 12 hours a day like me and your weed is ready to be harvested, you can harvest it all and lay it out. As you have time over the next week or two , you can slowly begin your trimming. Semi dry trim. By the time I reach then of trimming the run, I'm dry trimming. Trimming wet puts a time pressure on you and it can be back breaking. Just put it on your racks and trim bits at a time as it's drying. If you miss a day , no biggie. Slows the cure. I get up at 4 AM and no longer stay up late trimming because it "has to be trimmed now"!

With Chemd , it didn't matter wet or dry, it reeks pretty intensely . With Dutch strains, didn't matter if they were dried slowly or quickly, they were bland. ( White Widow, Killing Fields)

 

[Jellyfish]

That lawn cuttings smell is one of 2 things - bad genetics, like Serious seeds Chronic for example, or dried too fast too warm.

You might be right on this point, Spaventa, especially the drying too fast/too warm.

From personal experience, the only time I ever got the lawn cuttings smell really bad was when I stupidly tried to dry a crop in the attic. Big mistake because, a. it was dry as a desert up there to begin with, and b. in the summer the temps swung from 60 in the morning to over 110 at sunset.

So that was crazy, and pretty stupid. But outside of drying in such uncontrolled and extreme conditions, I still find DRY trimming to be superior in every way. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Jellyfish]

Its easier bucking off larger leaves at the stem. Flowers I have seen Wet trimmed you can see most leaves where just cut in half leaving the base(petiole) still attached.

Exactly, the big meaty, stemmy part of the leaf that you'd least like to smoke.

I think people who are running big ops or at least operating for profit will be more likely to say wet trimming, because it's more efficient, and also, drier weed means less weight. jmo

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I'm autistic with an extremely high IQ. My diplomacy naturally sucks, even though my goal is to simply be helpful. Deal with it, 'cause I do.

Everyone who trims and dries at low temps agrees with what I've posted. If the smell is there it's so minimal it's the same as not being there.
There is no physical quality change between wet or dry trimming. , It's the improper trim leftovers, or the ridiculous extra time to proper trim dry. Leaving half a cut leaf or stem when wet trimming is laziness and has nothing to do with 'wet trim' quality and everything to do with the trimmer.

Quality of terpene retention is based on temp/RH during trim/dry.

 

[Spaventa]

The other thing is flushing - nitrogen makes the smoke harsh and ash black - we all know that but I believe it adds to the hey thing by keeping the buds green. Its chlorophyl in the buds, mostly that gives the lawn smell so getting them flashed before harvest gets the chlorophyl washed out.

That said, I flushed the SS Chronic for a week, dried slow and cool for another, cured for weeks and... hay lol

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

The other thing is flushing - nitrogen makes the smoke harsh and ash black - we all know that but I believe it adds to the hey thing by keeping the buds green. Its chlorophyl in the buds, mostly that gives the lawn smell so getting them flashed before harvest gets the chlorophyl washed out.

That said, I flushed the SS Chronic for a week, dried slow and cool for another, cured for weeks and... hay lol

Another reason I've not had the hay smell. I feed a lower nitrogen, rather nicely balanced mix, at low strength in a high transpiration setting. I also fade to finish and use a 5 day clean water changeout.

Chlorphyll levels are very low when I'm trimming.

 

[hazyfontazy]

wet for me ,,i chop off each bud 1 by 1 ,trim all leaf and hang as shown in pic,keep in dark till dry ,no hay smell ever

 

[Junk]

Semi Dry trimming has always produced our best. We don't let the plants dry completely, only the outer leaves are dry. No problems getting flowers trimmed with the entire leaf removed. Its easier bucking off larger leaves at the stem. Flowers I have seen Wet trimmed you can see most leaves where just cut in half leaving the base(petiole) still attached.

Yes, that's the process I mean when I say "wet trimming". You take the plant down, and then run down with shears and take all the protruding leaves by cross cutting them near the bud. That causes the grass smell to start almost immediately, which makes sense. The same thing happens with grass, and it's the same chemical being released. It's the exact same reaction to mowing your lawn.

So I didn't cut any leaf material until the plant was pretty dry. I only cut stems, and the wet grass smell never appeared at all. The ones I did a typical wet trim by cutting the leafs, that smell appeared within minutes.

But when dry enough (dead enough) that the plant wasn't going to release the VOC's, I cut the leafy material. And it didn't release that smell. Fresh off the vine, if I cut the leaves, that smell came almost instantly. But waiting 5-7 days to cut the leaves, it didn't release that chemical.

I have no dog in this fight. I just want to make the best meds possible, and the above is what I found. When you compare the "wet trimmed" jars vs the "dry trim", the difference is significant. The "dry-trim" jars are much louder and the profiles much more defined.

 

[Junk]

I'm autistic with an extremely high IQ. My diplomacy naturally sucks, even though my goal is to simply be helpful. Deal with it, 'cause I do.

I'll clarify it for you then. I did a little experiment to test the info posted in this thread, as I said I would months ago. I posted the results. You jumped in and dismissed it. I respectfully rephrased my point, to which you replied, "Well gee, that doesn't happen when I trim leaf, as I've done for 10+ years, so I have to say bogus."

Your problem doesn't appear to be a high IQ or your diplomacy. It's your dismissive and egotistical air. You are the authority of nothing. Don't phrase things like you are. If you need further clarification let me know.

Everyone who trims and dries at low temps agrees with what I've posted.

I don't. And this thread is full of people who don't.

If the smell is there it's so minimal it's the same as not being there.

The papers are posted above. It's possible you don't have a good nose.

There is no physical quality change between wet or dry trimming.

There is. https://www.compoundchem.com/2014/04/25/what-causes-the-smell-of-fresh-cut-grass/ ,

It's the improper trim leftovers, or the ridiculous extra time to proper trim dry. Leaving half a cut leaf or stem when wet trimming is laziness and has nothing to do with 'wet trim' quality and everything to do with the trimmer.

Cutting leaves in half and leaving them is what I'm talking about. It's what I have clarified, and described several times now.

Quality of terpene retention is based on temp/RH during trim/dry.

If you don't release large amounts of the z-(3)-hexenal compound to begin with, there are no competing smells. Based on my results, it leads to a much stronger smell after the cure.

 

[theJointedOne]

dam i cant believe you guys even made this a question..

wet trimming is fail

dry trim for the win!

no, there is no argument

hazyfontay wtf is that deathtrap drying contraption youve concocted? looks like it belongs in a circus

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

LOL
Now I'm seriously laughing. What temps are you guys trimming at, where you complain of grass smell. It sure isn't below 70F.

I'd go point by point but it's tiresome posting from this phone. Suck it up.

 

[Spaventa]

Another reason I've not had the hay smell. I feed a lower nitrogen, rather nicely balanced mix, at low strength in a high transpiration setting. I also fade to finish and use a 5 day clean water changeout.

Chlorphyll levels are very low when I'm trimming.

Thats why I like Canna - its as if they know I grow hazes and sativa dominant hybrids and dialled back the N just for me

hazyfontay wtf is that deathtrap drying contraption youve concocted? looks like it belongs in a circus

Those thing rock for hanging.. why the hate? I bet the awesome colours triggered you

 

[hazyfontazy]

dam i cant believe you guys even made this a question..

wet trimming is fail

dry trim for the win!

no, there is no argument

hazyfontay wtf is that deathtrap drying contraption youve concocted? looks like it belongs in a circus

no argument from me ,,you do it your way i'll do it mine ,,

those are sock hangers ,i concocted fuck all ,,£1 each 20 buds per hanger ,,no wet leaf to give off the hay wet smell you dry leafers experience ,so carry on ,,i suppose your organic aswell lol

 

[Jellyfish]

Is there something about wet trimming that causes arrogance in growers?

 

[hazyfontazy]

Is there something about wet trimming that causes arrogance in growers?

the op asked wet or dry i posted up wet and get slagged off for it ,,not me being arrogant is it ,,jog on