Look up a thread on here called A Perfect Cure Every Time. I was floundering with the same issues you are until I read that thread. It's a game changer. Good luck!
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Look up a thread on here called A Perfect Cure Every Time. I was floundering with the same issues you are until I read that thread. It's a game changer. Good luck!
blowingupjake
Active member
Just dry trimmed a Grape Stomper plant before hopping on ic, since it's on my mind I'll post my opinion...
As usual, smells incredible and is smooth smoke after just over a week of drying.
Yep, takes a bit longer to trim but all of my senses thank me.
I think i wet trimmed 2 or 3 plants before I made the switch. No looking back after 100+ finished plants.
However, I do think your dry environment is a huge factor in this. My setup is a constant struggle to increase humidity and that is probably why I have such different results with wet vs dry.
My 2¥
As usual, smells incredible and is smooth smoke after just over a week of drying.
Yep, takes a bit longer to trim but all of my senses thank me.
I think i wet trimmed 2 or 3 plants before I made the switch. No looking back after 100+ finished plants.
However, I do think your dry environment is a huge factor in this. My setup is a constant struggle to increase humidity and that is probably why I have such different results with wet vs dry.
My 2¥
I hang dry and trim after the dry as well. I pull off the large fans and leave most of the fans around the bud. After about 5-6 days I pull them down and trim off the rest of the major fans and I leave most of them around the buds to protect them. I toss them in the jar while they are still pretty gooey but dry enough to smoke. I always get great flavor and smell. Never been an issue. I will trim off any leaf I don't want when I go to smoke it.
Wet trimming just doesn't appeal to me.. Seems like you're doing a lot more damage to the crystal content when you do it that way and I have found the flavor and smell just isn't the same. But that's just me. YMMV
Wet trimming just doesn't appeal to me.. Seems like you're doing a lot more damage to the crystal content when you do it that way and I have found the flavor and smell just isn't the same. But that's just me. YMMV
Jack T.Ripper
Member
45 pages of people comparing wet and dry trimming, hilarious.
Dry is the only way folks!
Dry is the only way folks!
Hello all,
Last year I got lazy and for my personal stash, I dry trim now at the time of smoking...I have my buds that where dried and then put into jars with boveda packs 62%. Only the large fans were removed leaving most of the bud leaves.
That's just my buds for my personal stash....works great for me.
Still though dry trim is best and easiest.
minds_I
Last year I got lazy and for my personal stash, I dry trim now at the time of smoking...I have my buds that where dried and then put into jars with boveda packs 62%. Only the large fans were removed leaving most of the bud leaves.
That's just my buds for my personal stash....works great for me.
Still though dry trim is best and easiest.
minds_I
I've tried a lot of different approaches, a lot of different steps
Now we do 2 steps. Chop and hang dry, buck and trim.
Each motion takes time and we don't make it harder then what it needs to be. That's the current situation....until I find an easier more productive approach
Now we do 2 steps. Chop and hang dry, buck and trim.
Each motion takes time and we don't make it harder then what it needs to be. That's the current situation....until I find an easier more productive approach
After decades of imploring all to use the wet trim technique, I have officially gone DRY! I got some crow to eat, lol. And like others I started out of necessity (i.e. no time and got tired of pulling all-nighters) and soon found that indeed it preserves smell, quality and it can even save time with many strains.
Same here.Dry trim,and Boveda.People like what they like.Im a Dry trim,used to sit over live plant n trim it up,chop n hang..Now,I dry it where stems are almost snapping,and then throw everything in a bigass jar and throw in a Boveda for each Strain/jar and cure for however long Strain needs..All about what the Person Growing it likes.Some people dry good enough to Smoke n their good.No cure,just put it in jar and smoke it as needed.So it varies so much grower to grower.P.S,My ways best.lol,Jkn.
✌I have a Q, but I'll post my thoughts on the question.
Someone pointed out the volatiles that get released when the cannabis plant leaves are cut. A wet hay smell is a byproduct of it. That's nothing new...it's quite old actually. So the people asking for proof or specifics...you can read papers on it. It only makes sense that if cutting the leaves causes this while the plant is still "fresh", for optimal smell, one would avoid it. But the proof is in the pudding, I'll try it.
That said, I usually trim wet. I've always been told that the hay smell was due to not achieving senescence, that the smell was "chlorophyll." Plus, I would think hacking the plant off at the trunk would release all the volatiles it could. But I will try it and compare. I trim wet usually, because I find it faster. I've done dry 3 times, and hated it every time.
But I never paid attention to the smell, drying one way vs the other. It's easy enough to check for myself. I'll check back in 4 months lol. I can see the argument for trimming dry now. It makes a lot of sense actually.
My question is, does anyone leave sugar leaves on? Basically, not "trim" at all. Take off the fans, leave the rest, then cut the buds off the branch and jar them? Most of the strains I see grown here, the sugar leaves are coated in trich's, is there a reason those couldn't just be left on? That would take care of the "trimming" altogether. Perhaps it's because I vape, but I don't notice a "leaf" taste?
I saw a cut of Blue Dream finished this way and it was some of the prettiest bud I've ever seen. But that's the only time I ever saw finished bud like that. I liked it personally. But maybe the blunt sippers and bong rippers don't? I don't sell/trade product so I don't have to worry about bag appeal necessarily. I'm just a perfectionist.
But I will try this on the next cycle and post back what I find. I can say that I trim wet most of the time, and smell is one area my product has always been lacking. But this whole time I've been blaming it on an imperfect flush (it never ceases to amaze me how long it can take).
Someone pointed out the volatiles that get released when the cannabis plant leaves are cut. A wet hay smell is a byproduct of it. That's nothing new...it's quite old actually. So the people asking for proof or specifics...you can read papers on it. It only makes sense that if cutting the leaves causes this while the plant is still "fresh", for optimal smell, one would avoid it. But the proof is in the pudding, I'll try it.
That said, I usually trim wet. I've always been told that the hay smell was due to not achieving senescence, that the smell was "chlorophyll." Plus, I would think hacking the plant off at the trunk would release all the volatiles it could. But I will try it and compare. I trim wet usually, because I find it faster. I've done dry 3 times, and hated it every time.
But I never paid attention to the smell, drying one way vs the other. It's easy enough to check for myself. I'll check back in 4 months lol. I can see the argument for trimming dry now. It makes a lot of sense actually.
My question is, does anyone leave sugar leaves on? Basically, not "trim" at all. Take off the fans, leave the rest, then cut the buds off the branch and jar them? Most of the strains I see grown here, the sugar leaves are coated in trich's, is there a reason those couldn't just be left on? That would take care of the "trimming" altogether. Perhaps it's because I vape, but I don't notice a "leaf" taste?
I saw a cut of Blue Dream finished this way and it was some of the prettiest bud I've ever seen. But that's the only time I ever saw finished bud like that. I liked it personally. But maybe the blunt sippers and bong rippers don't? I don't sell/trade product so I don't have to worry about bag appeal necessarily. I'm just a perfectionist.
But I will try this on the next cycle and post back what I find. I can say that I trim wet most of the time, and smell is one area my product has always been lacking. But this whole time I've been blaming it on an imperfect flush (it never ceases to amaze me how long it can take).
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I always cure with all the sugarly leaves on, this preserves the tastes and aromas much better. I just remove the leaves before consumption of I trim the buds when they cured for long enough an before vac sealing them or before freezing them.
Why worry about flushing? Go organic and you won't need a flush (living soil not liquid organics)
Why worry about flushing? Go organic and you won't need a flush (living soil not liquid organics)
Generally dry trimming makes it easier to end up with quality smoke without watching your dry very closely. It’s also nice not to be under pressure to get it all done at once.
That being said wet trimming can be great too and has a time and place, you just need to pay much closer attention. Some strains are just a pita to dry trim, other trim up easy. If you have the time, dry trim for the win. I’m wet trimming now. Chem d would have dry trimmed very easy; mob is leafy and I’m so glad I won’t have to get back in there later. Still dry trimming some dta11 outdoor and it cleans up very nice n easy...so milage varies, but don’t think wet trim can’t produce great smoke (plus fesh frozen hash!)
That being said wet trimming can be great too and has a time and place, you just need to pay much closer attention. Some strains are just a pita to dry trim, other trim up easy. If you have the time, dry trim for the win. I’m wet trimming now. Chem d would have dry trimmed very easy; mob is leafy and I’m so glad I won’t have to get back in there later. Still dry trimming some dta11 outdoor and it cleans up very nice n easy...so milage varies, but don’t think wet trim can’t produce great smoke (plus fesh frozen hash!)
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
Yup, been dry trimming for years, when I don't have the time I will throw untrimmed buds in a jar to cure then trim as I catch up. I've tried wet trimming before just never seems to come out as good.
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
dry trimming for me I love it
Best thing about it, you trim dry over a screen you get some of the best dry sieve hash full melt if you don't work the trim too much just a little bouncing and light carding. The rest I use for bubble hash or edibles.
So I finally got to try this.
I usually trim wet bc I find dry trimming to be much more time consuming, and tedious. And I often have that hay smell for a week or two after the buds go in the jars. Some strains have a more pronounced hay smell than others, but it's always there.
I trimmed some this time the same way, with the same results.
I trimmed some dry as well, and there was no hay smell. It never smelled like hay at all. So there was no time needed for that smell to dissipate. The med's smell only got stronger as it cured, just like the old timers in the post said.
I also flash dried some trimmed and untrimmed, and both produced the hay smell. The trimmed was just just worse.
I despise dry trimming though. So the majority of the plants, I trimmed wet, but didn't cut any leaves at all. I only cut the stems. I only took leafs I could get the shears under the stem. If I couldn't do that, I left it on. Before the plants had dried totally, I snipped those remaining leaves. So they were still easy to get at, but the plant had dried enough that it wasn't going to mobilize that chemical that causes the hay smell. It had the same effect as dry trimming, but w/o the hassle of trimming totally dead leaves. That cut grass smell never appeared at all, with any of the strains.
From now on, I'll trim like that. I avoid the hay smell, but don't have to trim dried bud. The difference is dramatic.
I usually trim wet bc I find dry trimming to be much more time consuming, and tedious. And I often have that hay smell for a week or two after the buds go in the jars. Some strains have a more pronounced hay smell than others, but it's always there.
I trimmed some this time the same way, with the same results.
I trimmed some dry as well, and there was no hay smell. It never smelled like hay at all. So there was no time needed for that smell to dissipate. The med's smell only got stronger as it cured, just like the old timers in the post said.
I also flash dried some trimmed and untrimmed, and both produced the hay smell. The trimmed was just just worse.
I despise dry trimming though. So the majority of the plants, I trimmed wet, but didn't cut any leaves at all. I only cut the stems. I only took leafs I could get the shears under the stem. If I couldn't do that, I left it on. Before the plants had dried totally, I snipped those remaining leaves. So they were still easy to get at, but the plant had dried enough that it wasn't going to mobilize that chemical that causes the hay smell. It had the same effect as dry trimming, but w/o the hassle of trimming totally dead leaves. That cut grass smell never appeared at all, with any of the strains.
From now on, I'll trim like that. I avoid the hay smell, but don't have to trim dried bud. The difference is dramatic.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Just lost a nice long post to a database error, typed in by phone. tx icmag. lol
Long story short, had to rough trim this last harvest. What a waste of time and trim.
Instead of flower I can simply crush and smoke, I'm left with flower that has leaf stem and pieces in it I have to pick out.
Wet trimming I easily slide the point of the scissors down the stem of each leaf and remove it entirely. Dry? lol you can't get the whole leaf and stem without munging the flower. I end up with a bag of trim I've picked out of broken up flower, instead of a nice bag of trim from actual trimming.
Getting grassy smell and reduced terpenes from wet trimming? You're doing it wrong, plain and simple. I don't, when I get to do it the way I want. I get awesomely terpene and sticky cannabinoid rich flowers which stay that way through curing.
Dry trimming to preserve trichomes?? Grow more trichome dense cannabis and you won't worry about it anymore. Literally drifts of trichomes in your jars.
Long story short, had to rough trim this last harvest. What a waste of time and trim.
Instead of flower I can simply crush and smoke, I'm left with flower that has leaf stem and pieces in it I have to pick out.
Wet trimming I easily slide the point of the scissors down the stem of each leaf and remove it entirely. Dry? lol you can't get the whole leaf and stem without munging the flower. I end up with a bag of trim I've picked out of broken up flower, instead of a nice bag of trim from actual trimming.
Getting grassy smell and reduced terpenes from wet trimming? You're doing it wrong, plain and simple. I don't, when I get to do it the way I want.
I get awesomely terpene and sticky cannabinoid rich flowers which stay that way through curing.Dry trimming to preserve trichomes?? Grow more trichome dense cannabis and you won't worry about it anymore. Literally drifts of trichomes in your jars.
Bird of Hermes
Member
I've always wet trimmed because i figured i had too so that i wouldnt get bud rot and because its easier to see which trim leaves are worth keeping to vape. Using my extreme q vape i can vape anything with trichs on it including stems and still tastes good. Also makes bud that would be gross to smoke taste just fine if you've never vaped with a wand id suggest giving it a try. You can also dry fresh flowers at around 200F for about 20min using the internal fan and at the same time the heat will quick cure the bud. This works too i've gotten ripped out of my ass by a hit from a flower that was alive just 30min earlier. Careful though i'd only do this the last week of flush and just as a test or you could get hooked and smoke her up before harvest lol.
I dont mind extra trim time so if everybody thinks it gives such good results i'll give it a go next time and see what happens.
I dont mind extra trim time so if everybody thinks it gives such good results i'll give it a go next time and see what happens.
For those of you having problems with dry trimming, you're probably just not drying your weed out enough to begin with. It should be so dry that you can just knock the leaves off with the edge of your scissors. It doesn't take any time at all when your weed is this dry when you start 'dry trimming'.
After you've knocked the leaves off, and broken the buds off the big stems (they should just 'snap off'), put your buds in quart jars about 3/4 full. Burp it two or three times over the next three days, and it should come out perfect.
If you wet trim and then put the buds in jars, it takes forever for the buds to dry properly in the jar. And you're a thousand times more likely to get the hay smell.
It's a little scary the first time you hang your untrimmed plants upside down and just leave them alone for a week or more.
But when you actually do that, you come out with the best cure with less effort than wet trimming.
Dry trimming for the win!
After you've knocked the leaves off, and broken the buds off the big stems (they should just 'snap off'), put your buds in quart jars about 3/4 full. Burp it two or three times over the next three days, and it should come out perfect.
If you wet trim and then put the buds in jars, it takes forever for the buds to dry properly in the jar. And you're a thousand times more likely to get the hay smell.
It's a little scary the first time you hang your untrimmed plants upside down and just leave them alone for a week or more.
But when you actually do that, you come out with the best cure with less effort than wet trimming.
Dry trimming for the win!
