weird problems need help please

[wutwut]

hey, i'm growing amnesia core cut & bubba kush & og kush all from clones.

first weeks went good but now i have bad problems and i'm afraid to lose those genetics by my mistakes. plants are still in veg state but i wan't to switch them to flowering in christmas time.

plants were shocked by high temps for a week i think and that's all i know now.

info: 600w distance 20" with cooltube
temp 82f hum 45%

5 gallon pot
40% soil (biobizz allmix and lightmix)
40% clay
20% coco (maybe i failed here..)
biobizz nutes (can be old maybe?)

watering ph is somewhere 6.2-6.7 (if the meter is correctly calibrated) but when i check that soil own ph it says over 7

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dying leaf

reddish stem

ogkush maybe ph problem?

 

[wutwut]

ammo / white small dots and that brown is soil lol
dark stems and then leaf dies

i saw one very small bug. it was transparent coloured with three little horn in head. slow moving one.

drooping leafs maybe wind burn?

 

[wutwut]

bubba kush not so green

 

[thailer]

well i am not certain so maybe someone else has a better suggestion but i think its too much clay.

5 gallon pot
40% soil (biobizz allmix and lightmix)
40% clay
20% coco (maybe i failed here..)
biobizz nutes (can be old maybe?)

watering ph is somewhere 6.2-6.7 (if the meter is correctly calibrated) but when i check that soil own ph it says over 7

what do you mean by the bug had three horn? spider mites have a mouth that is a tube like thing that could be confused for a horn along with the first set of legs being more forward facing than the other sets of legs. could the front legs combined with the mouth be your three horns? because the white stipples look like bug damage.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Looks like a combination of things..all your leaves margins are rolling and all look droopy...looks like bugs maybe mites

 

[QQNPK]

I think it looks like Underwatering, your soil looks bone dry,not happy roots i think the White tips are from roots dying off

 

[GGNo2]

When leaf margins curl down, there's a problem with you rootzone.
Mostly it will be over feeding, but it could be caused by not enough oxygen getting to the roots.

I'm going to say a mixture of the 2 seeing the leaf tip burn on the other plants.
What I wanted to know was why you messed with the soil?

Should have just used biobizz soil as it comes. It's manufactured to be perfect for your plants roots. It's all I've used for years.
I use all mix, any problems I have are my own fault. Mostly environmental issues but never the soil or my roots.

Back off the food for a couple of waterings then come back with the food at half strength.
Some do look a little heat stressed but nothing too bad.
Make sure you water them well to soak all the soil. You can't over water from the amount you water. It's watering too frequently without letting the soil dry a touch.

My soil has still a little moisture when I water, I think it's better for my roots. I go by the weight of the pot. I try to keep it as moist as it is when you first take it out of the bag.

Them leaves won't recover now. Start treating now and watch the new growth for signs of improvement. It won't be Xmas though, new year at least.
Goodluck, I'm sure they will be fine.

 

[wutwut]

thanks for replies my friends

yeah probably it's combination of dry roots, heat and light stress with wind burn, little overfeeding & too much clay in the ground. maybe ph level is wrong aswell.

i've been watering them now by 3 days cycle and every time to till run off. i see that new tips are just enough good but not very fast growing ones. plants are still light green but og kush which i started a few weeks a go is dark green.

mites or what ever i spray them with mix of that soap. i don't see them but somehow sometimes there comes couple of white dots.

i think those pots are too small. plants have been in 5 gallons over 2 months now. still so much learning haha. shame i take fails too intensive in my mind.

 

[QQNPK]

thanks for replies my friends

yeah probably it's combination of dry roots, heat and light stress with wind burn, little overfeeding & too much clay in the ground. maybe ph level is wrong aswell.

i've been watering them now by 3 days cycle and every time to till run off. i see that new tips are just enough good but not very fast growing ones. plants are still light green but og kush which i started a few weeks a go is dark green.

mites or what ever i spray them with mix of that soap. i don't see them but somehow sometimes there comes couple of white dots.

i think those pots are too small. plants have been in 5 gallons over 2 months now. still so much learning haha. shame i take fails too intensive in my mind.

I dont think the pot size is a problem right now but when you water, do you make sure to wet the medium completely or do you just water? If you water to dry soil it will just tunnel through it without actually wetting it much, just a thought.

By the way if you switch out 35% of that clay with perlit and add some worm casting it would be a really Nice mix i think..

 

[wutwut]

here is again some pictures of symptoms

together see how white those two bigger plants look

amnesia

bubba

 

[wutwut]

younger og kush

-- think im going to switch them anyway in new year. i will put scrog net today.

 

[DNM1]

First step of action, check all leaves underneath for bugs
Most important.You have to eliminate that 100% before you can continue

 

[QQNPK]

younger og kush

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-- think im going to switch them anyway in new year. i will put scrog net today.

I just think you need to make sure to wet the entire medium and watch what happens maybe you got enough nutes maybe not.. Id not switch 12/12 before you figure your problems out you might be dissapointed and its a hassle trying to add nutes last second especially in soil

 

[wutwut]

ouch! i found an spider mite eggs when i checked under of those white dots with magnifying glass. i've sprayed my plants with 4% soft pine soap mix now over a week but problem is still active.

e: i was thinking is it good idea to dim light back to 400w so then i can drop temp little more from 82f? maybe humidity will raise aswell when outline fan blows slower.

 

[DNM1]

ouch! i found an spider mite eggs when i checked under of those white dots with magnifying glass. i've sprayed my plants with 4% soft pine soap mix now over a week but problem is still active.

e: i was thinking is it good idea to dim light back to 400w so then i can drop temp little more from 82f? maybe humidity will raise aswell when outline fan blows slower.

Magnifying glass is not good enough now that you have found the cause.
Worst infected leaves, off,and spray and wipe underneath the rest.Wanted to ask about the clay.Did it come from a garden,was it bought?and,are eggs on all plants?

 

[wutwut]

Magnifying glass is not good enough now that you have found the cause.
Worst infected leaves, off,and spray and wipe underneath the rest.Wanted to ask about the clay.Did it come from a garden,was it bought?and,are eggs on all plants?

im pretty new for bugs because my past grows are always done from seeds. so im not 100% sure it is spider mite but everything is pointing at it. white dots on the leaves and clear transparent small dots under leafs that cant be trichomes. couple of times i saw very small transparented bugs aswell.

im going to buy pyrethrene spray right now and hope it works. i think plants haven't grown no more maybe very little or it is just my mind. new grow tips are light coloured so i think it's time to add more nutes with half strenght. i have little stress because in next year is coming renovation to my apartment and i dont know yet at when.

finally this problem cause took me off from nervous and i accepted that i will maybe lose those genetics. it will destroy me but always it's possible to find new ones and start again from beginning.

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i bought clay from local market and left bags to my backyard. i washed them many times before using.

fastly watched i saw eggs only in amnesia cut. so maybe it was infected from the start. biobizz soil had fungus gnats but they are gone.

 

[DNM1]

im pretty new for bugs because my past grows are always done from seeds. so im not 100% sure it is spider mite but everything is pointing at it. white dots on the leaves and clear transparent small dots under leafs that cant be trichomes. couple of times i saw very small transparented bugs aswell.

im going to buy pyrethrene spray right now and hope it works. i think plants haven't grown no more maybe very little or it is just my mind. new grow tips are light coloured so i think it's time to add more nutes with half strenght. i have little stress because in next year is coming renovation to my apartment and i dont know yet at when.

finally this problem cause took me off from nervous and i accepted that i will maybe lose those genetics. it will destroy me but always it's possible to find new ones and start again from beginning.

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i bought clay from local market and left bags to my backyard. i washed them many times before using.

fastly watched i saw eggs only in amnesia cut. so maybe it was infected from the start. biobizz soil had fungus gnats but they are gone.

Start looking for the same genetics/seeds
First time facing a number of problems,inc spider mites,might drain you physically, it's already doing mentally.
You have to try and keep those plants alive.You won't learn any other way, no guarantee it won't happen again.Hope it doesn't but you'll be more equipped to deal with it, detect it at an earlier stage.Hands on experience
You get tired, takes time from social, private life,cull them but make sure the new seeds are there waiting for you....
I'm going to stick around, and,will help as much as I can
Chin up

 

[wutwut]

argh
my bubba kush is showing signs of some kind of problem. leaves are turning yellow and part of them have rusty/browny points on the top of leaf. i don't see any bugs or white dots there.

probably ph ratio is absolute wrong and it's underfeeding then? or it can be maybe overfeeding?

 

[DNM1]

here is again some pictures of symptoms

together see how white those two bigger plants look

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amnesia

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bubba

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Take all damaged leaves off.Have you flushed them?

 

[QQNPK]

What have you done with them the past 2 n half weeks ? could you say how much you water and how often, and if your using any liquid nutrients or if you have added any fertilizer, also what is your ph of the medium and soil ? it kinda looks like some sort of burn, perhaps a ph issue. but they are locked out and cant feed so they canabilize leaves to stay alive until you fix the problem

EDIT: i would not remove the leaves right now its not going to make it better rather make it worse as you are removing already stored nutrients