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weird problems need help please

wutwut

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now i took all those damaged leaves off
i didnt flush them in shower but watered them like 3 times with a lot of water till much runoff

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i've been watered them for 3 days cycle but now per every 2 days because earlier was not enough. maybe 5 litre per 5 gallon pot so soil become wet and after 3 days it's empty. temp is usually 28c but sometimes it grows to 30c. rh is 40-60%.

i use biobizz grow & bloom. now only 1ml/l both but before that i gave too much ferts (up to 3ml/l and one or two times more than 4,5ml/l..) because colour was too light green. so it's p burn then?

yes i think its ph aswell. probably my ph meter is broken. i check it's 6.4 but soil shows 7-8.

e; forgot to say amnesia is making little better in new grow tips but still small nutrient burn
 
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now i took all those damaged leaves off
i didnt flush them in shower but watered them like 3 times with a lot of water till much runoff

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i've been watered them for 3 days cycle but now per every 2 days because earlier was not enough. maybe 5 litre per 5 gallon pot so soil become wet and after 3 days it's empty. temp is usually 28c but sometimes it grows to 30c. rh is 40-60%.

i use biobizz grow & bloom. now only 1ml/l both but before that i gave too much ferts (up to 3ml/l and one or two times more than 4,5ml/l..) because colour was too light green. so it's p burn then?

yes i think its ph aswell. probably my ph meter is broken. i check it's 6.4 but soil shows 7-8.

e; forgot to say amnesia is making little better in new grow tips but still small nutrient burn
Had two plants(newbie/first time) planted in soil with clay.Didn't know IC existed.They grew fine, their rooting system was nothing in size, had them in 35ltr pots.I was feeding them "light"(nutrients crystalline form diluted in water)Overfed,an, they turned blue(sativas)
I think soil is to heavy for that dosage?and,water takes longer to get absorbed by rooting system because of the clay
 

wutwut

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i think tomorrow i will flush those plants in shower and let pots dry enough. then add small amount of nutrients and wait what will happen. i made an hasty decision with leaves. should left 50% of those damaged leaves i think but this is good lesson again. mistakes gives me more knowledge but yes same time it hurts because i take this garden hobby very seriously. not only why that because my medicines are going to end in a soon or so.

one more thing is that i can not get to clones any roots from those plants. weird.
 

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I dont think the pot size is a problem right now but when you water, do you make sure to wet the medium completely or do you just water? If you water to dry soil it will just tunnel through it without actually wetting it much, just a thought.

By the way if you switch out 35% of that clay with perlit and add some worm casting it would be a really Nice mix i think.. :tiphat:
Glad that I'm not the only one that thought 40% clay was waaaaay too much!
 
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DNM1

i think tomorrow i will flush those plants in shower and let pots dry enough. then add small amount of nutrients and wait what will happen. i made an hasty decision with leaves. should left 50% of those damaged leaves i think but this is good lesson again. mistakes gives me more knowledge but yes same time it hurts because i take this garden hobby very seriously. not only why that because my medicines are going to end in a soon or so.

one more thing is that i can not get to clones any roots from those plants. weird.
Let plants recover after flushing(no nutrients).Then you probably have to slow feed their weekly dose of nutrients, through the week,because of the heavy soil.
I would still checkoff spider mites with a lens.Magnifying glass is not good enough
 

wutwut

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yes i do not know what i was thinking why i added so much clay. in my past grows that soil ground was not airy enough and now i decided to mix more of it for better result. wrong.

Let plants recover after flushing(no nutrients).Then you probably have to slow feed their weekly dose of nutrients, through the week,because of the heavy soil.
I would still checkoff spider mites with a lens.Magnifying glass is not good enough

okay do you mean slow feeding by very low amount of nuts or not nuts so many times when watering? like between every 3 watering then add nuts.

i use 60x jews loupe for checking bugs. been sprayed them with soap and switched to
pyrethere which works better.
 
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DNM1

yes i do not know what i was thinking why i added so much clay. in my past grows that soil ground was not airy enough and now i decided to mix more of it for better result. wrong.



okay do you mean slow feeding by very low amount of nuts or not nuts so many times when watering? like between every 3 watering then add nuts.

i use 60x jews loupe for checking bugs. been sprayed them with soap and switched to
pyrethere which works better.
At this stage, think the dose is 1/4/4 grow, bloom,top max in 1ltr of water
She needs let's say 3ltr of water through the week.Dilute BioBizz nutrient feed(1/4/4) into those 3ltr,and,slowly water her/them.Not all at once
You mind find,that 3ltr are too much because of the rooting system(assuming clay has kept it small),then you will adjust the "dose" the week after.Example,you might find they actually take 2ltr of water per plant,1/4/4 diluted to that amount for the week coming
Wipe leaves with cloth after sptaying,helps
Slow watering,administration of nutrient feed, and,the bug thing which has put a stop to your plant's growth
Would recommend cleaning/disinfecting tent once again
 
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DNM1

At this stage, think the dose is 1/4/4 grow, bloom,top max in 1ltr of water
She needs let's say 3ltr of water through the week.Dilute BioBizz nutrient feed(1/4/4) into those 3ltr,and,slowly water her/them.Not all at once
You mind find,that 3ltr are too much because of the rooting system(assuming clay has kept it small),then you will adjust the "dose" the week after.Example,you might find they actually take 2ltr of water per plant,1/4/4 diluted to that amount for the week coming
Wipe leaves with cloth after sptaying,helps
Slow watering,administration of nutrient feed, and,the bug thing which has put a stop to your plant's growth
Would recommend cleaning/disinfecting tent once again
Spider mite free grow 1ml to a 1ltr of water
:)
 

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DNM1

i think tomorrow i will flush those plants in shower and let pots dry enough. then add small amount of nutrients and wait what will happen. i made an hasty decision with leaves. should left 50% of those damaged leaves i think but this is good lesson again. mistakes gives me more knowledge but yes same time it hurts because i take this garden hobby very seriously. not only why that because my medicines are going to end in a soon or so.

one more thing is that i can not get to clones any roots from those plants. weird.
Don't want you to run out of your medication
Same problem(root problem),nutrient lockdown, after re pot,plus high humidity etc two weeks ago.Huge leaves, messed up rooting system
Defoliation,flushed 10ltr water, waited
Fixed 1ltr biobizz nutrient feed.One week now,she has taken only 1/3 of her feed(no extra water),looks better though, still some feed/water coming through!
Slow,and,patience,and,in your case...wiping under the leaves, clean out tent, and,they will respond
Sorry for the photos, but,images do talk.Even checked for spider mites
 

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wutwut

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thanks for help but anything seems not to make it better. new grow looks healthier but their tips are little burned and old leaves are dying. now my og kush is making it aswell but it has different problems.

im thinking to re pot them all without that much clay. does it works if i do like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDPJiCoROEU

i can't believe how this everything happend to me. i've done couple of succesful grows in my past. now those problems crushes my knowledge and working hours.
 
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DNM1

thanks for help but anything seems not to make it better. new grow looks healthier but their tips are little burned and old leaves are dying. now my og kush is making it aswell but it has different problems.

im thinking to re pot them all without that much clay. does it works if i do like this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDPJiCoROEU

i can't believe how this everything happend to me. i've done couple of succesful grows in my past. now those problems crushes my knowledge and working hours.
Re pot.Use the BioBizz Light Mix
 
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DNM1

yes i give them one more week to wait what happens with pure watering. if they don't recover i will re pot them all with light mix. thank you.
Did mine!.Only water after re pot, and,'cause root system was wet,stanley knife/scissors made it easier to transfer
 

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wutwut

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okay finally did repotting with light mix. there was so much clay in my mix! now i put it only on the bottom of the pot.

i dont know did i something wrong with taking those roots so nude. i have two more plants left in line.

here some photos of the process:

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wutwut

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what a job! if this doesnt help then im done and start everything from new begin. my bathroom is full of clay pebbles haha. now i understand how much perlite is in that biobizz soil. it was very fail to add half of clay to it. i did it because i have used only cheap market soils without any airy material on it.

sorry my english im multitasking with my mind at same time lol and im so hungry after this job.


p e a c e e
 
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DNM1

what a job! if this doesnt help then im done and start everything from new begin. my bathroom is full of clay pebbles haha. now i understand how much perlite is in that biobizz soil. it was very fail to add half of clay to it. i did it because i have used only cheap market soils without any airy material on it.

sorry my english im multitasking with my mind at same time lol and im so hungry after this job.


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Spider mites, deal with them now so plants will finally get to breath and start growing again
Wipe leaves underneath, and,keep checking if any spots/eggs are still present
Just water plants after the re pot for a few days
 

wutwut

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i hope they will recover from that transfer. i dropped lights from 600w to 400w for couple of days. temperature is 26,5c° & rh 50-65% - depends where it is counted.

i watered those 5 gallon pots in shower to very wet. i think after 2-3 days i will water them once again with pure water. then switch to 2ml/l both grow & bloom. next dose will be 3ml/l and next to next 4ml/l. then again only pure water and continue that 4ml/l cycle. does it sound good?

i can't understand how marijuana growing can be so hard right now :biggrin: maybe it's bugs because never had to worry about them. only grown from seeds but i wanted something special cuts for this round. now i see that price can be big battle with everything.
 
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DNM1

i hope they will recover from that transfer. i dropped lights from 600w to 400w for couple of days. temperature is 26,5c° & rh 50-65% - depends where it is counted.

i watered those 5 gallon pots in shower to very wet. i think after 2-3 days i will water them once again with pure water. then switch to 2ml/l both grow & bloom. next dose will be 3ml/l and next to next 4ml/l. then again only pure water and continue that 4ml/l cycle. does it sound good?

i can't understand how marijuana growing can be so hard right now :biggrin: maybe it's bugs because never had to worry about them. only grown from seeds but i wanted something special cuts for this round. now i see that price can be big battle with everything.
Give them just water for a week.Let root system recover, and,find it's place.
It's a pain in the butt dealing with spider mites.i know, but,now that's your mission :)
:)
 
Just my two cents:

Excess clay is creating a phosphorous toxicity which is showing as zinc deficiency.
More nutrients with phosphorous is going to make things worse, because clay has a high CEC, it will hold onto it longer.
Flushing will not help.

Repot immediately into a commercial medium and stop messing with them.
If you’re going to mess with mediums you should give up the bottle and start thinking about formulating an easy, water-only, organically amended mix that works.
 

wutwut

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Just my two cents:

Excess clay is creating a phosphorous toxicity which is showing as zinc deficiency.
More nutrients with phosphorous is going to make things worse, because clay has a high CEC, it will hold onto it longer.
Flushing will not help.

Repot immediately into a commercial medium and stop messing with them.
If you’re going to mess with mediums you should give up the bottle and start thinking about formulating an easy, water-only, organically amended mix that works.

yeah you are probably right and i repotted them couple of days ago. now im waiting for if they will recover from it or not. they dont look much better yet but i think its normal stress effect when roots get harmed. actually i can see new tips are grown little bit but not very sure heh. time will show.
 
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