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Weed pilgrimage to SE Asia.
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wow it says thai royal police torture, execute etc. without due process, all in the name of societies alleged safety/health. Same exploitation that occurs in US in most states. In some theres even an off chance you get shot without due process in a heated situation, you've seen these on the news if you live in these areas. Shot without due process? just happens more frequently in thailand but yes even in the US with the way its portrayed through institutions and media 
. Like thailand, say goodbye to life outside if you have plants. not so different in a way, just typical different east/west versions of the same thing.
. Like thailand, say goodbye to life outside if you have plants. not so different in a way, just typical different east/west versions of the same thing.
limey
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Sounds awesome! Koh Phangan is where the full moon parties are a? My trip coincides with one so i have thought bout heading that a way... mushroom shakes you say... sounds very tempting...!!!
When were you over there? How were the cops? Good vibes for single traveller?
Cheers!!!!!!
Hmm Koh Phan Gan is a lovely island overrun by unimaginative backpackers, often "clean" living Swedes (no offense intended, Swedish brothers)
It is easy to get hold of gear there but alot of what I came across was very standard bushweed.
You might try Ton Sai (on the Rai Leh peninsular) as well / instead. It is perhaps a bit more like Koh Phan Gan was once like.
If I were going to SE Asia for dope, I would go to Laos, not Thailand. Though in many ways very like Koh Phan Gan, it's easier to score in Viang Vieng, for example, than in Thailand and the weed was better on average (not to say you cant get great weed in Thailand).
However, if you are looking for pukka smoke, India and Nepal are better still. Just got back from Nepal myself last week and if I could go again tomorrow, you wouldn't see me for dust.
Happy travels
Man that sux i wanna go there in around 6 months and i knew this shit was gonna happen.
Fuck!!
Why does the US government have to ruin all the fun places???
motaloca
Member
It will take some time for them to take action. They have so far just busted methlabs. There is still plenty of weed. I think they will leave smokers alone as weed is still legal to use in soup. So you should be ok to visit in six months. Hope u come and have a good time. There are no busts for people smoking.
Hope u visit and get some good sativa.
Hope u visit and get some good sativa.
Thats good to know man, if i can keep my money together till then ill definitely visit.
Times are getting harder and harder for drug tourists
Times are getting harder and harder for drug tourists
Weedio
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Was in Thailand and Cambodia last summer. Vietnam in 2006.
In Thailand avoid cities completely, go without to be honest it's far too dangerous.
Kho Phan Ngan, phi phi etc. any island just ask someone who works in a bar, they'll direct you somewhere. Usually reggae bars that sell it, ask for high grade if you can.
On Kho Phan Ngan head to the north of the island, weed in the south is rubbish as is the accomodation. I found compressed weed (5g for 500baht) in the south, and good thai sativa in the north (10g for 500baht, 26-30g for 1000baht - although it was mostly one handful for 500baht, three for 1000bhat but that's what it usually weighed in at). Ao Salaad beach and Haad Khom beach's i found to be the best.
In Cambodia head to the pizza shops, ask for their high grade as they usually have a few different types. In Bokor National park/sihankouville area it's possible to get some red laos hash from reggae bars/locals. I smoked some at sunrise at Bokor hill station overlooking the south china sea and it was a beautiful moment.
In Vietnam head to touristy areas and they will zip past you on motorbikes shouting "marijuana". Shout back and again ask for high grade, they'll usually do it very quickly and rush off, get to your hotel asap and smoke discreetly! Vietnam's not a good place to get caught with weed.
Old Quarter in Hanoi, Mekong Delta, Nha Trang and Hué i managed to get good quality weed. It's worth asking a few folk if you don't think the quality is there initially.
It's all for show, the locals smoke oils constantly, you can buy hashish and marijuana by the pound at the markets. It's not going anywhere.
Cambodia is so corrupt i doubt they'll get any money anyway.
In Thailand avoid cities completely, go without to be honest it's far too dangerous.
Kho Phan Ngan, phi phi etc. any island just ask someone who works in a bar, they'll direct you somewhere. Usually reggae bars that sell it, ask for high grade if you can.
On Kho Phan Ngan head to the north of the island, weed in the south is rubbish as is the accomodation. I found compressed weed (5g for 500baht) in the south, and good thai sativa in the north (10g for 500baht, 26-30g for 1000baht - although it was mostly one handful for 500baht, three for 1000bhat but that's what it usually weighed in at). Ao Salaad beach and Haad Khom beach's i found to be the best.
In Cambodia head to the pizza shops, ask for their high grade as they usually have a few different types. In Bokor National park/sihankouville area it's possible to get some red laos hash from reggae bars/locals. I smoked some at sunrise at Bokor hill station overlooking the south china sea and it was a beautiful moment.
In Vietnam head to touristy areas and they will zip past you on motorbikes shouting "marijuana". Shout back and again ask for high grade, they'll usually do it very quickly and rush off, get to your hotel asap and smoke discreetly! Vietnam's not a good place to get caught with weed.
Old Quarter in Hanoi, Mekong Delta, Nha Trang and Hué i managed to get good quality weed. It's worth asking a few folk if you don't think the quality is there initially.
It's all for show, the locals smoke oils constantly, you can buy hashish and marijuana by the pound at the markets. It's not going anywhere.
Cambodia is so corrupt i doubt they'll get any money anyway.
motaloca
Member
In Cambodia head to the pizza shops, ask for their high grade as they usually have a few different types. In Bokor National park/sihankouville area it's possible to get some red laos hash from reggae bars/locals. I smoked some at sunrise at Bokor hill station overlooking the south china sea and it was a beautiful moment.
That Lao red is made in Kampot.
It's all for show, the locals smoke oils constantly, you can buy hashish and marijuana by the pound at the markets. It's not going anywhere.
Cambodia is so corrupt i doubt they'll get any money anyway.[/QUOTE]
Weed was sold at markets ten years ago. It was from such bad quality that people used it to hold open their doors.
Times are changing. Quality and price are up, you should still get an ounce of good quality herb for 20 bucks.
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That Lao red is made in Kampot.
It's all for show, the locals smoke oils constantly, you can buy hashish and marijuana by the pound at the markets. It's not going anywhere.
Cambodia is so corrupt i doubt they'll get any money anyway.[/QUOTE]
Weed was sold at markets ten years ago. It was from such bad quality that people used it to hold open their doors.
Times are changing. Quality and price are up, you should still get an ounce of good quality herb for 20 bucks.
Sorry have to find out how to use the Quote function
Weedio
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I found a dude selling slabs of hash, not the best quality admittidly but by the slab! Just sat them on the table.
Also marijuana was sold alongside other goods, much less openly but it was always offered to any westerner.
The above was in Siem Reap's market, i didn't see anything in the phnom penh one (apart from a few muggings).
Also marijuana was sold alongside other goods, much less openly but it was always offered to any westerner.
The above was in Siem Reap's market, i didn't see anything in the phnom penh one (apart from a few muggings).
Excellent info peeps!!
Well i have had a think and reckom what i really wanna do/go see is Chaing Mai, just gotta hope the rains come early enough to clear all the smoke and dust... and also Nepal... do you think its possible to see Chaing mai for 5 days and Nepal for 5 days and without landing at Bangkok??
Goddam martial law!!!
Well i have had a think and reckom what i really wanna do/go see is Chaing Mai, just gotta hope the rains come early enough to clear all the smoke and dust... and also Nepal... do you think its possible to see Chaing mai for 5 days and Nepal for 5 days and without landing at Bangkok??
Goddam martial law!!!
limey
Member
Excellent info peeps!!
Well i have had a think and reckom what i really wanna do/go see is Chaing Mai, just gotta hope the rains come early enough to clear all the smoke and dust... and also Nepal... do you think its possible to see Chaing mai for 5 days and Nepal for 5 days and without landing at Bangkok??
Goddam martial law!!!
From what I hear, things are calming down in Bangkok
You dont actually need to go in to Bangkok anyway as you can fly Chaing Mai and Kathmandu from the airport (it's a regional hub)
Can thoroughly recommend Nepal. Just got back. Alot of fun to be had. If you go to Kathmandu, dont waste your time staying in Thamel, which is 'orrible, stay in Freak st. I can recommend you a toker friendly guest house if you like.
limey
Member
Following last night's assassination attempt, I have to admit: Hmm, well, that was optimistic, wasn't it? Sorry. Oh, well, unless you a desperate for a spell on the beach, Thailand? not sure I'd bother. Nice food and people and all that but seems like more hassle than it's worth at the moment. Go to Nepal and have a ball.
doodah
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if i were off to s-e asia then i'd go to the indian himalayas - himachal pradesh - then fly off to kathmandu and do a bit of trekking round anapurna and make the most of the local hash - then off to thailand and put myself on a beach for a few days. but you'd need a couple of months - at least - to do that properly.
if u only have ten days then i'd 'settle' for nepal - few days in kathmandu (avoid thamel as limey says), off to annapurna to see some of the most beautiful landscape on the planet. i did everest once (not climb it, trek to base camp!) and the up and down nature of the trek in made for long and arduous days. annapurna meant to be (a) more beautiful (b) easier trekking.
anyway, u have room in your suitcase for a doodah? the himalayas are my fave place on earth.
if u only have ten days then i'd 'settle' for nepal - few days in kathmandu (avoid thamel as limey says), off to annapurna to see some of the most beautiful landscape on the planet. i did everest once (not climb it, trek to base camp!) and the up and down nature of the trek in made for long and arduous days. annapurna meant to be (a) more beautiful (b) easier trekking.
anyway, u have room in your suitcase for a doodah? the himalayas are my fave place on earth.
Ok sweet i really do want to go to Nepal. Is 5 days enough? I am thinking explore kathmandu for a day then royal chitwan national park for 2 days and then ? Can i get a tour or that of the mountains or i need to trek?
doodah
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i spent a coupla days in chitwan, well worth it. floating over a river in a dug-out canoo at sunset, good hash, rhinos...
as for kathmandu, well it's so full of temples and atmosphere that i could happily spend several months there without getting bored, but 1 day ain't enough to get your bearings imho.
as for the mountains, they are in the north and it takes some time to get there. 5 days is really pushing it for such an amazing country. if i were ye i'd leave the mountains for when you've got enough time to appreciate them properly. but if you want to and you have the cash you can fly (to jiri?) and check them out. as you prob won't be back in nepal for a while it's prob worth it cos they are amazing. the hybrid of buddhism and hinduism in the country is far out.
as for kathmandu, well it's so full of temples and atmosphere that i could happily spend several months there without getting bored, but 1 day ain't enough to get your bearings imho.
as for the mountains, they are in the north and it takes some time to get there. 5 days is really pushing it for such an amazing country. if i were ye i'd leave the mountains for when you've got enough time to appreciate them properly. but if you want to and you have the cash you can fly (to jiri?) and check them out. as you prob won't be back in nepal for a while it's prob worth it cos they are amazing. the hybrid of buddhism and hinduism in the country is far out.
limey
Member
Nope!
Ok, the problem is that it takes ages to get anywhere in Nepal because the roads are crowded and, well, not the best roads in the world.
I guess that you could do a couple of days in Kathmandu and a couple in Chitwan and, yes, you would see some very cool stuff.. if in something of a hurry. But why hurry? Take your time! Why be a fly-by-night tourist?
Am not sure when you are planning to go on your travels but having a look at some weather/climate info would serve your planning well (if you haven't done so already) as South and SE asia hot up at this time of year, and by June, well, it's pretty much unbearable in many places. And until you have seen the monsoon, well, you haven't seen rain. So the hills and mountains in India are coming into their own right now, the hills and mountains Nepal will be very pleasant but increasingly hazy (as the humidity builds up), the Terai (wherein, Chitwan) will be getting very hot and most of Thailand is beginning to fry (Bangkok is over 40degrees C, 100f this week ; Chiang Mai a few degrees behind).
Am still envious though... I wanna go!
limey
Member
So, well, safety has 2 angles:
how likely you are to get caught
how much trouble you are going to get in if you get caught
As you have probably picked up, the likelihood of getting caught in Thailand seems to have increased in recent years. And the penalties there are famously harsh. I wouldn't even try buying in Bangkok, for example, or smoke at a full moon party. If you're in the better side of Koh Phan Gan, for example (i.e well away from Hat Rin, which is a hole anyway!) and you don't get in the habit of carrying it around with you, I'd guess your chances of getting nicked are fairly low. Ton Sai (near krabi) doesn't have any roads running to it, so you have to get there by boat, and cops are lazy, so I'd guess the chances of getting nicked there are really pretty low (but I haven't been there for 2 years so, maybe things have changed). Baksheesh (bribe) for getting off the hook if you get caught, $500-100USD?
Laos... like Thailand, well, you wouldn't want to get caught but the feeling I got was that you would be unlucky to attract any police trouble for weed unless you were indiscreet. Lots of Laotians smoke. Like anywhere in the world, if you've got it, don't flaunt it! Baksheesh for getting off the hook if you get caught, $250-500USD
Vietnam - see Thailand. Perhaps even worse trouble if you get caught. Don't know the baksheesh situation
India (outside Goa) - chances of getting caught: very low. But you can still be dobbed in by a hotelier looking for kick-back from the cops, who may be undertaking a purge to fulfil their quota. But still, likelihood of getting caught if you aren't traveling with it, I'd have thought, very low. Availability: very easy to score, especially in Himachal, Kerala, touristy areas. Trouble if you get caught: pretty serious but not like SE asia. Minimum 10 years for smuggling though (and that's if you don't die in jail before you trial actually takes place - I am not kidding). Ease of baksheesh: piece of piss. Most cops in India are very underpaid and hanging out for some baksheesh. Baksheesh for getting off the hook if you get caught, $100USD, perhaps even less. Basically, everything in your wallet and alot of humility.
India (in Goa) - chances of getting caught: higher. Police from all over India pay to get transferred to Goa, so they can screw "rich" tourists for baksheesh. Be very discreet. Baksheesh for getting off the hook if you get caught, $250-500USD. Perhaps more.
Nepal - chances of getting caught: very low. I still wouldn't travel with much though. Baksheesh (bribe) for getting off the hook if you get caught, not sure but doubt it would be more than $100. I have never heard of anyone getting caught... except for smuggling.. for which, ten years+. No get out of jail free card.
Pakistan (ok, I haven't been there for 15 years). chances of getting caught: very low, I don't think I met a man out of uniform in Pak. who didn't smoke dope. I still wouldn't travel with it here either. Risks of other trouble in Pakistan probably higher than dope related hassle. Dope is absurdly cheap and strong. As with all these places, if you are in trouble, you are in trouble. Baksheesh for getting off the hook if you get caught, anything they can take you for! (ok, but probably not that much if you are just paying off a flatfoot).
Have a google for "webehigh", which has some good general info on the above and tips on places to score.
Safest places I have been for dope: Nepal and (outside of asia) the rif in Morocco.. and the Netherlands (well, obviously).
all the best
Limey
tintala
Member
Nepal
Nepal
I always tell people who are thinking of travelling to ASIA, go to Nepal . I live here part time and know that it's one of the friendliest cannabis countries, CANNABIS is from NEpal, also you should trek around Annapurna, you will see old old, plots of cannabis, huge plants.. nothing like trekking thru the Himalaya and smoking NEpalese hash. I have been everywhere and Nepal is waaay cooler than most of the places. A day called shivaratri , a festival, everyone can partake in cannabis. It's legal on this day! I have a house outside Kathmandu, i have done my stints in guesthouses, and each and every guest house is cannabis friendly as well. But so glad I have a house and nepali wife, i usually find incredible hash. nepal IMO , is the only way.
Nepal
I always tell people who are thinking of travelling to ASIA, go to Nepal . I live here part time and know that it's one of the friendliest cannabis countries, CANNABIS is from NEpal, also you should trek around Annapurna, you will see old old, plots of cannabis, huge plants.. nothing like trekking thru the Himalaya and smoking NEpalese hash. I have been everywhere and Nepal is waaay cooler than most of the places. A day called shivaratri , a festival, everyone can partake in cannabis. It's legal on this day! I have a house outside Kathmandu, i have done my stints in guesthouses, and each and every guest house is cannabis friendly as well. But so glad I have a house and nepali wife, i usually find incredible hash. nepal IMO , is the only way.
