Webbed Indica. or Ducksfoot. simly the WEBBIES and all about them.

[midwestkid]

This is an email from Doc D to me in reference to this HWI he offered:


hey my friend...
the hawaiian web came to me from my friend el jefe... 10-11 week flowering time, vigorous and well branched plants that display the unique web leaf pattern. Medium to small producer with more open flower structure. The aroma was floral and citrus similar to many SE asian lines I've run. Mellow but feel good high type.

unfortunately i can't find my photos but i hope that info helps.

take care, d

 

[midwestkid]

here's a couple leaf pics from the HWI. I think calling it an indica was a bit misleading. Maybe it was called that because the affects were relaxing? Or maybe there's a more sativa dominant line out there and it was simply named that to differentiate?
it really reminded me more of a sativa in flower. Loose sativa buds with super exotic invigorating aromas. But these were neglected outside. Kinda guerrilla grow for open pollination.
I had purchased Donald Mallards line years ago from S a n n I e s. It was a whole different creature. It had similar leafs, but that was the only thing these two had in common. (another similarity would be pretty long flowering times 10-12 weeks) I preferred Donald's line. It was a stinker and the buds were more productive.
I wish those were still around because they were uniquely different.
I am curious who is ultimately responsible for this work? Who did the original work? What is it derived from?

 

[Donald Mallard]

It doesnt really sound like what i received over 20 years ago ,
i dont remember if the guy i got it from called it and indica or just called it hawaiin web ,
maybe i added the term indica because the stuff i got was certainly an indica ,

it didnt branch much , had one main cola and was only a few foot tall ,
with huge hollow stems and weird leafy flowers and red veins in the leaf ,
it was very strong , despite the leafy looking buds,
one of the reasons we did a trade was because the plants , while both being webbed leaf plants ,
most other traits were the opposite , with respect to vigor , branching ,, etc

it was awesome in the cross with the ducksfoot i had , super potent , vigorous , huge buds ,
the aroma was like petroleum , not pleasant ,, but very potent aroma that carried a long way ,
even a tiny bud in a bag would stink out a car ,
it wasnt easy to transport ,]
pruning it was difficult too , used to make me nauseous due to the fumes emitting from the buds ..

i didnt realize the value of that stuff really , and sadly it was lost ...

 

[Greatdalas]

This is an email from Doc D to me in reference to this HWI he offered:


hey my friend...
the hawaiian web came to me from my friend el jefe... 10-11 week flowering time, vigorous and well branched plants that display the unique web leaf pattern. Medium to small producer with more open flower structure. The aroma was floral and citrus similar to many SE asian lines I've run. Mellow but feel good high type.

unfortunately i can't find my photos but i hope that info helps.

take care, d

More 12/13 weeks of flower i think

 

[Greatdalas]

It doesnt really sound like what i received over 20 years ago ,
i dont remember if the guy i got it from called it and indica or just called it hawaiin web ,
maybe i added the term indica because the stuff i got was certainly an indica ,

it didnt branch much , had one main cola and was only a few foot tall ,
with huge hollow stems and weird leafy flowers and red veins in the leaf ,
it was very strong , despite the leafy looking buds,
one of the reasons we did a trade was because the plants , while both being webbed leaf plants ,
most other traits were the opposite , with respect to vigor , branching ,, etc

it was awesome in the cross with the ducksfoot i had , super potent , vigorous , huge buds ,
the aroma was like petroleum , not pleasant ,, but very potent aroma that carried a long way ,
even a tiny bud in a bag would stink out a car ,
it wasnt easy to transport ,]
pruning it was difficult too , used to make me nauseous due to the fumes emitting from the buds ..

i didnt realize the value of that stuff really , and sadly it was lost ...

This hawaiian of doc d it's very vigorous, and smell sweet lemon caramel a little herbal, remember me much to old jack herer

 

[midwestkid]

More 12/13 weeks of flower i think

I would agree. Pretty long flowering. Triggered late around 37th parallel

 

[Huesos]

Maha Kala- do a search of the thread kahuku web, or nics seakay two, or squiddy to see folks behind the beans your growing. These kind brothers were trying to save the HWI from going extinct. Respect to them for caring enough to try and save Hawaiian Heirlooms.

If any of you kind Hawaiian brothers are out there- Un Abrazo!

Wesos

 

[@hempy]

Maha Kala- do a search of the thread kahuku web, or nics seakay two, or squiddy to see folks behind the beans your growing. These kind brothers were trying to save the HWI from going extinct. Respect to them for caring enough to try and save Hawaiian Heirlooms.

If any of you kind Hawaiian brothers are out there- Un Abrazo!

Wesos

Squiddy was one of the nicest people i have come across in all the years i have been on the forums.

 

[MAHA KALA]

It doesnt really sound like what i received over 20 years ago ,
i dont remember if the guy i got it from called it and indica or just called it hawaiin web ,
maybe i added the term indica because the stuff i got was certainly an indica ,

[/ATTACH]

they called it like that. according to old threads from around 2009. hawaiian webbed indica and it has probably no connection to hawaiian web which guys got from Doc D.

I think there are more lines like this. it is called web, but it doesnt mean that if it has similar leaf, it has to smoke the same way. I know that they have some line like this at New Caledonia too. it can be totally different in effect too.

 

[MAHA KALA]

Maha Kala- do a search of the thread kahuku web, or nics seakay two, or squiddy to see folks behind the beans your growing. These kind brothers were trying to save the HWI from going extinct. Respect to them for caring enough to try and save Hawaiian Heirlooms.

If any of you kind Hawaiian brothers are out there- Un Abrazo!

Wesos

be sure, my friend, that I did already. before I start to grow something I try to get some information about it. from what I read it seems that cross was done by 2CK.

muchas gracias!

 

[MAHA KALA]

This hawaiian of doc d 's very vigorous, and smell sweet lemon caramel a little herbal, remember me much to old jack herer

only place I saw HWIMF for sale is archive seedbank, of course it is crossed with face off og and Docta calls it Hilo Hammer. just a tip. I dont doubt it is high quality herb.

 

[MAHA KALA]

this is the most sativa looking pheno I got, although in veg it was broad leaf. molokai frost pheno? it has tutti-frutti smell, classic fruity spicy hawaiian smells. I got also hashplant phenos, they are shorter and are already forming nice chunks. they smell more musky acrid like.

 

[Donald Mallard]

they called it like that. according to old threads from around 2009. hawaiian webbed indica and it has probably no connection to hawaiian web which guys got from Doc D.

I think there are more lines like this. it is called web, but it doesnt mean that if it has similar leaf, it has to smoke the same way. I know that they have some line like this at New Caledonia too. it can be totally different in effect too.

there was strawberry web too which is in one of those strain description books ,
cannabible or something like that maybe ....

so i got my stuff from ck2 , or seakay2 , how ever he spelt it , i think both ways at different times ,
he called it hawaiin web or web,
and i think i just went for webbed indica as a name ,
so its true hawaiin webbed indica could be another animal ..

it was thought they were all related initially due to the leaf morphology,
but eventually folks realised its just a trait in cannabis and they need not be related to have it ,
there are of course variations on the theme ,,,

sam skunkman said he first saw it many years before i came on the boards when he was first reversing cannabis strains ,
but didnt see any need to keep it , or any use for it i guess ...

 

[MAHA KALA]

hey Donald bro. I see that he is talking about it as HWI. look at this post.

Howzit, Flyin and Med...here's a pic of a pure HWI keiki...bout 45 days from germ and just about sexed...got the typical fat stem of the HWI, and is short and stocky...

this is cross that I am growing currently.

I'm pretty tight with DHH and Squiddy aka DA HUI...and you got our motto right too...EVERYTHING'S about the POI...

Today's pic du jour is from 2006 Long Season and is another seed variant produced by HighHawyn! - this time HWI x Molokai Frost, with an obvious MF leaning...

and this is pic from HarryNugz, molokai frost on the left and HWI on the right:

 

[Huesos]

Blessings to SeaKay Two!

 

[Huesos]

A key factor here is the end product is what we are looking for in what we call POI (Quality of High). In contrast, the leaf pattern is secondary to the POI. My recommendation would be to take cuts of each plant. Then, grow them out and sample the POI.

Another key factor is that when one goes out of the norm to preserve a line (alas HWI), then there is much work needed to stabilize the line. I don’t know where SeaKay Two is on continuing the HWI works.

If one was to put in the work to find the great Hawaiian heirlooms within HWI, then these would be very high value in reference to selling them or preservation of a Hawaiian Heirloom. Not many folk want to put in the work. Cash in on the quick and easy- yes. But- real work like CK2 are very few.

Real true men and women stand on solid ground of respect and integrity. A man amongst men. Real men, like Uncle Bid are very few. Anyway~ thats what life has taught me.

 

[Donald Mallard]

hey Donald bro. I see that he is talking about it as HWI. look at this post.




this is cross that I am growing currently.



and this is pic from HarryNugz, molokai frost on the left and HWI on the right:

2006 is a few years after i did a trade with him, 5 years or so ,
he lost the stuff we did the trade with initially for a while he told me ,
he must have found someone that still had it ,i recall he did some crosses with molokai frost ,
anyhow im pretty sure he only called it hawaiin web when i first talked with him in 2001 ...

he never said anything about the quality of the pot it produced either ,
said he wanted me to sample it for myself to be sure it was as he thought , quite potent ..
i wonder if the current stuff is the same as it was over 20 years ago ....

i did send a bunch of them as a back up to gn to stick in his fridge ,
but during the drama with pom , they disappeared apparently ,
really bummed me out , even when i did what i thought was a good plan to back stuff up,
i still lost them ,, lol ,,
somethings just arent meant to be it seems ....

 

[Greatdalas]

The hawaiian web of doc d is very tall with long lance-shaped buds

 

[Greatdalas]

only place I saw HWIMF for sale is archive seedbank, of course it is crossed with face off og and Docta calls it Hilo Hammer. just a tip. I dont doubt it is high quality herb.

This is other than archive, seems pure , uncrossed.

 

[MAHA KALA]

This is other than archive, seems pure , uncrossed.

I was talking about availability of HWIMF genetics, not about what you have...