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Wearing Masks

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Hammerhead

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i agree with everything you said.. any half educated person would have respect for this virus and see it as it is..

and as for bill gates, his biggest problem is that he is bill gates. conspiracy theorists attack anyone with money or status. I think often because they have a fear of anyone with power or wealth. but thats another storry.


I agree as well. I find it disturbing so many don't take it seriously. Waring a mask is like there conforming to some conspiracy theory.
 

Crooked8

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I agree as well. I find it disturbing so many don't take it seriously. Waring a mask is like there conforming to some conspiracy theory.

Its terrifying to watch the carelessness unfold in a way that is so detrimental to society as a whole. Im genuinely feeling very scared.
 
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Vash

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i agree with everything you said.. any half educated person would have respect for this virus and see it as it is..

and as for bill gates, his biggest problem is that he is bill gates. conspiracy theorists attack anyone with money or status. I think often because they have a fear of anyone with power or wealth. but thats another storry.


You see, this is the VERY thing I'm talking about. If you don't go along with the narrative, you're called names. Trust me, I handle it with ease, but the "smart ones" in here have a hard time with different opinions. Just wear YOUR mask and be safe. I can find a hazmat suit and face shield for you, if you like.
 

Vash

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Its terrifying to watch the stupidity unfold in a way that is so detrimental to society as a whole. Im genuinely feeling very scared.[/QUOTE


Here's another one..calling people "stupid" now because they aren't wearing masks, or going along with the BS. Boy, let me tell you, folks drinking the "kovid koolaid" by the gallons. Feeling scared...? Stay home and don't come out. You'll be just fine.:D
 

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Its terrifying to watch the stupidity unfold in a way that is so detrimental to society as a whole. Im genuinely feeling very scared.[/QUOTE


Here's another one..calling people "stupid" now because they aren't wearing masks, or going along with the BS. Boy, let me tell you, folks drinking the "kovid koolaid" by the gallons. Feeling scared...? Stay home and don't come out. You'll be just fine.:D

Im not too worried about myself. I wear a mask to protect others. I dont mind wearing one if it can save lives. Anti maskers, imo are showcasing what carelessness looks like. We have a deadly virus and its recommended to slow the spread by wearing a mask. What the hell is the problem? At the very least, they are careless with other peoples lives. If im drinking “kovid koolaid” so be it. Ill drink gallons of that shit if it saves even one life. I have a hard time with the “psychological damage” of wearing a mask. Please.
 

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Posts edited, calling it stupidity i guess was offensive. Im offended when i see people publicly NOT wearing a mask. It seems silly to me. What are the major negative impacts of wearing them vs not? Regular masks(surgical) seem to make a difference. Cloth/bandanas however i read actually can disperse droplets into smaller ones and potentially cause more harm than good. It seemed like a biased study but if theres anything to that, people need to know.
 

Klompen

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Corruption and regressive conservatives have dragged society way out on a limb and now they're attempting to saw the limb we're all standing on; Its ok to get a little irritated with them.
 

TychoMonolyth

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Here's another one..calling people "stupid" now because they aren't wearing masks, or going along with the BS. Boy, let me tell you, folks drinking the "kovid koolaid" by the gallons. Feeling scared...? Stay home and don't come out. You'll be just fine.:D

Don't like stupid? OK. How about douche bags, kunts, retards... I mean, I have a whole bag of them.

Look around, you're closing in on 200k dead. Bird Brain.
 

mowood3479

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the biggest estimate i've seen of lockdown contributed deaths is 20k... emphasis on "biggest" and "estimate".

that is a grain of sand compared to how many would die, in all age groups, of covid if we didnt do the lockdowns.

you act like it's 90% 83 year olds, when in reality tens of thousands are dead in each age bracket, depending on how it is sliced.

and just because many 83 year olds are retired doesnt mean they all are, and even if they were, and even if it was only ages 70+ dying.. the cost on healthcare systems and society in general would still be devastating.

some estimates point to tens of millions more dying if no lockdowns... so you'd have even more ppl dead, and the economy would still be fucked.

Ok, well if our choice is tens of millions dead or lockdowns then I would also choose lockdowns.
Interestingly enough there is a country called Sweden it’s in Europe somewhere.
You should check out their covid response...
You know if ur open to anything outside ur own echo chamber
 

Amynamous

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Its terrifying to watch the stupidity unfold in a way that is so detrimental to society as a whole. Im genuinely feeling very scared.[/QUOTE


Here's another one..calling people "stupid" now because they aren't wearing masks, or going along with the BS. Boy, let me tell you, folks drinking the "kovid koolaid" by the gallons. Feeling scared...? Stay home and don't come out. You'll be just fine.:D

You see, this is the VERY thing I'm talking about. If you don't go along with the narrative, you're called names. Trust me, I handle it with ease, but the "smart ones" in here have a hard time with different opinions. Just wear YOUR mask and be safe. I can find a hazmat suit and face shield for you, if you like.

@Vash: Describing math and science as a “narrative” is extremely disingenuous.

@no specific person: When accepted math and science are either ignored or ridiculed and attacked ad nauseam by people who do not understand the math and science, and this in turns leads to the out of control spread of a contagious deadly disease, then i think it is fair to characterize the result as “stupidity unfolding”. Personally, i agree with crooked8’s comment, and i am also feeling very scared. The scariest part (to me) is not that this is occurring on icmag, but that this stupidity is occurring in the white house and the halls of congress.
 
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mowood3479

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Because the truth is; there are places where they did no lockdowns and no mask orders (Sweden) and their death rates are not exponentially higher as u have posited but just slightly higher than in the USA
 

gaiusmarius

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Ok, well if our choice is tens of millions dead or lockdowns then I would also choose lockdowns.
Interestingly enough there is a country called Sweden it’s in Europe somewhere.
You should check out their covid response...
You know if ur open to anything outside ur own echo chamber

whats gonna be interesting is how bad Sweeden gets it this winter. if my suspissions are correct Sweden will be through with it while places with strict lock downs still have to deal with it. but thats a theory, i am not trying to convince anyone. it will be interesting after the fact to really compare on the whole effect on society in different nations. but its too early to draw any real conclusions about whch nation did the best over all job.

i can see wearing masks as a good thing to protect others, WHEN there are others close by indoors to protect. i can not see wearing a mask walking down the road by yourself as sensible or even healthy.

living in fear is a good way to run down your immune system.
 
This is some real investigative journalism exposing Gates, Fauci, The CDC, and WHO. Go ahead and dismiss it because it's hosted on bitchute and not the heavily censored, "bought and paid for" youtube or MSM. That includes Fox. They're all compromised. We're all in this together regardless of who we want as president or which political party we belong to or what country we live in. This is bigger than all of that and affects ALL of us. Please put your political biases aside and watch.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4u7rt61YeGox/
 

nepalnt21

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You see, this is the VERY thing I'm talking about. If you don't go along with the narrative, you're called names. Trust me, I handle it with ease, but the "smart ones" in here have a hard time with different opinions. Just wear YOUR mask and be safe. I can find a hazmat suit and face shield for you, if you like.

(just to point out how stupid your argument is)

it's my opinion that i should drive with my eyes closed, even though i could potentially run you over with my car. vehicular manslaughter is a crime? psh...i guess you just go along with the narrative... just stay in the house if you're afraid of my car.
 

nepalnt21

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Because the truth is; there are places where they did no lockdowns and no mask orders (Sweden) and their death rates are not exponentially higher as u have posited but just slightly higher than in the USA

there are plenty of great analyses of why what they did in sweden wouldnt have worked here, i posted one earlier in the mask thread or covid boots
 

Switcher56

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whats gonna be interesting is how bad Sweeden gets it this winter. if my suspissions are correct Sweden will be through with it while places with strict lock downs still have to deal with it. but thats a theory, i am not trying to convince anyone. it will be interesting after the fact to really compare on the whole effect on society in different nations. but its too early to draw any real conclusions about whch nation did the best over all job.

i can see wearing masks as a good thing to protect others, WHEN there are others close by indoors to protect. i can not see wearing a mask walking down the road by yourself as sensible or even healthy.

living in fear is a good way to run down your immune system.
I can support your narrative. Sweden didn't fair out well in the beginning.

The doctors and scientist are dumbfounded with this virus, they are learning everyday. Just when they think they have answers, 19 comes back and says "back the cart up, I'm not done with you yet".

I haven't paid much attention to them "in particular" but, I have paid attention to other nation that had great responses only to see a resurgence, which in most cases was due to shear stupidity.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the effects felt after every FRIGGIN long WE we have had (world wide). There are other causes as well but... mass gatherings played a major role, with the exception of the protests. Yeah right!

Based on the last long WE we had (early Aug) we again have seen a resurgence. Schools open up after labour day here (scheduled). Their is talk to postpone reopening for 10-14 days. I say that is plain good old fashion caution.

I get my info from a variety of places, here is not one of them. Why would I take credence in anything a bunch of "pot smokers" extrapolate.

Remember March break in Ft Lauderdale where folks flaunted the infectious rate of this disease. What was the number again, 100 students from U of T tested positive upon their return. That's a number we know. Yes it is a small number, but even 10 would be considered too much. The 100 is a known number. What is/was the unknown "real" number after March break.

Cases we are seeing in the Atlantic bubble these days are all related to travel. Folks saying they will self isolate and don't etc... WTF!

Yup, even here we see the odd individual bitching about wearing masks and trying to convince people they are STUPID. I give the individual the same time of day I have my morning constitutional. You know what? Most of them are complaining they simply want to return to normal. A small price to pay, IF it helps moderate the curve.

Anyone remember the vid of the school in Georgia, and the subsequent consequences, only a few days did. Instead of bragging how great the US is (not) the scientist should be looking at Denmark with their return schooling program, instituted in Apr I believe, they safelu returned to school. Mind you, they have better testing and tracing in place. Oh, BTW Denmark is a country with medicare and free education. Ummm, been that way since I remember.
 

Chevy cHaze

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Wait a minute... about Sweden... they're numbers are hell high, the whole country is only 10mio people and as of today they suffered just shy of 6000 casualties... that's not a good outcome at all, it's terrible!
Germany has just 3000 more deaths, but from over 80mio people.
Oh, yes and from wearing masks right from the start too...


And I agree, masks outside is stupid unless there's many around you, then the same rules as indoors apply.
Don't pass it on to other folk, it's that simple.
 

gaiusmarius

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I can support your narrative. Sweden didn't fair out well in the beginning.

The doctors and scientist are dumbfounded with this virus, they are learning everyday. Just when they think they have answers, 19 comes back and says "back the cart up, I'm not done with you yet".

I haven't paid much attention to them "in particular" but, I have paid attention to other nation that had great responses only to see a resurgence, which in most cases was due to shear stupidity.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the effects felt after every FRIGGIN long WE we have had (world wide). There are other causes as well but... mass gatherings played a major role, with the exception of the protests. Yeah right!

Based on the last long WE we had (early Aug) we again have seen a resurgence. Schools open up after labour day here (scheduled). Their is talk to postpone reopening for 10-14 days. I say that is plain good old fashion caution.

I get my info from a variety of places, here is not one of them. Why would I take credence in anything a bunch of "pot smokers" extrapolate.

Remember March break in Ft Lauderdale where folks flaunted the infectious rate of this disease. What was the number again, 100 students from U of T tested positive upon their return. That's a number we know. Yes it is a small number, but even 10 would be considered too much. The 100 is a known number. What is/was the unknown "real" number after March break.

Cases we are seeing in the Atlantic bubble these days are all related to travel. Folks saying they will self isolate and don't etc... WTF!

Yup, even here we see the odd individual bitching about wearing masks and trying to convince people they are STUPID. I give the individual the same time of day I have my morning constitutional. You know what? Most of them are complaining they simply want to return to normal. A small price to pay, IF it helps moderate the curve.

Anyone remember the vid of the school in Georgia, and the subsequent consequences, only a few days did. Instead of bragging how great the US is (not) the scientist should be looking at Denmark with their return schooling program, instituted in Apr I believe, they safelu returned to school. Mind you, they have better testing and tracing in place. Oh, BTW Denmark is a country with medicare and free education. Ummm, been that way since I remember.

i heard about the school case in the US. it has shocked me as we have had schools open again for months and there is practically no new infections being traced back to schools. even though the classes in most provinces are back to full classes at school. only above 10 or 11 are they wearing masks in school, public transport etc. so why is it not the same in the US? this fucking virus is so fucked up. so many symptoms, from nothing to full blown death.

like i said, we will only really know the complete situation after a year or 2, when all the data has been firstly verified and secondly, analized.
 

mr.brunch

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People in Sweden were trusted to follow hygiene/distancing/masks
. imagine the numbers if they weren’t.
 

Amynamous

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People in Sweden were trusted to follow hygiene/distancing/masks
. imagine the numbers if they weren’t.

Seems that the citizens of Sweden can be trusted to do the right thing. Unfortunately, us ‘Mericans’ cannot. Ya’all have good leadership. Maybe that’s the secret.
 
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