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[arsekick]

Bullshit.

Which bit, the 95% or the 100%

 

[moose eater]

Which bit, the 95% or the 100%

Study the4 people and spend less time on propaganda, and you'll realize the people of Muslim faith, overall, aren't necessarily who you seem to think they are.

 

[arsekick]

Study the4 people and spend less time on propaganda, and you'll realize the people of Muslim faith, overall, aren't necessarily who you seem to think they are.

I'm well aware of what the majority of Muslim people want, have a read of the Quran to get an idea.

 

[moose eater]

I'm well aware of what the majority of Muslim people want, have a read of the Quran to get an idea.

A literalist interpretation or reading of the Quran is about as misleading as a literalist reading of the KJ Bible... Old Testament..

 

[arsekick]

A literalist interpretation or reading of the Quran is about as misleading as a literalist reading of the KJ Bible... Old Testament..

All through history the Muslims have taken the literalist interpretation of the Quran and still do if their in the majority.

Maybe they should update the Quran like the Bible was updated, but they wont

 

[moose eater]

All through history the Muslims have taken the literalist interpretation of the Quran and still do if their in the majority.

Maybe they should update the Quran like the Bible was updated, but they wont

An uneducated, somewhat racist/ethnocentrist and biased statement based in fluff and propaganda that groups all Muslims like grouping all Christians.

Why the rift between average Afghanis and the Taliban if they're all alike? Hm?

 

[GenghisKush]

what government? the US, UK, Germany, much of Europe backs the genocide. the US is also the chief perpetrator.

your performative obedience pleases the ayatollah

 

[moose eater]

Again, less reflection and repetition of statist (or other sourced) propaganda and more real-life interactions might just temper or enlighten that misguided inaccuracy therein.

 

[GenghisKush]

Ethnically cleansed of Jews as of 2005? More cherry-picked Zionist propagandist bullshit.

IDF was actively in Gaza throughout that time, kicking in doors, often without proper cause. (*Plenty of interviews with former IDF to assert this factually, as well as video). Pretty amazing considering their absence, no? I mean, how could they be kicking in doors if they're not even there, right?

Does it hurt much inside when you twist shit like that?

Your assertions are of the same quality and victim-for-profit pro-militant Zionist land-thieving tenor they nearly always are.

Wear that victimization of Palestinians proudly. Don't try to cover it up with Bibi's propaganda, as it lessens the already dim view many take of your blindered opinions.

And for the fifth time since I began posting in this thread, here are THE (LEGAL) ROME STATUTE definitions of genocide being worked with by the ICJ and any other honest governments. (*Not your conveniently selected, inappropriate/inapplicable narrowed Webster's Dictionary version that you seem to repeatedly cling to, despite fucking knowing better. We sometimes refer to such behaviors as manipulative and dishonest. Imagine that).

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The Rome Statute defines genocide as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such, including killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about destruction, imposing measures to prevent births, or forcibly transferring children.

or, for a more formal reading....

First, the crime of genocide is characterised by the specific intent to destroy in whole or in part a national, ethnic, racial or religious group by killing its members or by other means: causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; or forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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Now, read that again. I've assumed all this time that you're literate to some degree, so it shouldn't be that difficult, despite your aversion to actual working legal definitions in this matter.

Now let that sink in for a bit, then own your victim-for-profit bullshit. And adopt some humility for your intellectual dishonesty you've pasted across this thread for a year and a half, and elsewhere, too. Fuck, I knew you were a Zionist before you did, apparently.

"Know thyself" (Socrates).. Pretty simple advice, really. And yet so distant in attainability for some.

you and i are very different, moose: i make no claims of omniscience. instead, i possess sufficient humility such that I can to amend my beliefs as i encounter new information.

the only one here making any claim of victimhood is you: you've been manipulated! deceived!

cope.

 

[moose eater]

Bwahahahahahahaha!!

I've seen you spin Zionist propaganda and half-truth here often enough that there's nothing I'd even comment on in re. to your perpetual deflections.

"Know thyself" (Socrates)

edit: And yes, we are VERY different. I have some integrity and attempt to be truthful and analytical in all things, save, as an example, border crossings,

 

[arsekick]

An uneducated, somewhat racist/ethnocentrist and biased statement based in fluff and propaganda that groups all Muslims like grouping all Christians.

Why the rift between average Afghanis and the Taliban if they're all alike? Hm?

Muslims are not a race its not possible to be racist to them, not for their God bothering activitys anyway.
History says its not fluff or propaganda, how do you think the islamic religeon spread half way around the world ?

Don't get me started on the Christians

There has been a rift among the Muslims since Muhammad died.

 

[GenghisKush]

Bwahahahahahahaha!!

I've seen you spin Zionist propaganda and half-truth here often enough that there's nothing I'd even comment on in re. to your perpetual deflections.

"Know thyself" (Socrates)

edit: And yes, we are VERY different. I have some integrity and attempt to be truthful and analytical in all things, save, as an example, border crossings,

moose: you have such poor impulse control that you couldn't make it even 60 seconds before smashing the "Post reply" button in response to my last message. what you call your integrity is, i think, somewhere between mania and delusion. meanwhile, you've accused me many times of being dishonest or manipulative. but i know of no single claim i've made that you've proved untrue. still, you're perfectly aware that if you keep repeating that accusation, some will begin to believe it. which is... manipulative.

in summation: you, sir, project your bullshit onto others.

 

[moose eater]

Muslims are not a race its not possible to be racist to them, not for their God bothering activitys anyway.
History says its not fluff or propaganda, how do you think the islamic religeon spread half way around the world ?

Don't get me started on the Christians

There has been a rift among the Muslims since Muhammad died.

Arabs are a race, many of them are Muslims, and you certainly seem to have a generic beef with them that is clearly based in overly generalized propaganda and misinformation.

So which is it? A rift between Muslims in their beliefs, or they're nearly all the same?

 

[moose eater]

Hossam Shabat’s Last Article

Filed hours before his killing in an Israeli airstrike, journalist Hossam Shabat describes the resumption of Israel's scorched earth campaign in his hometown of Beit Hanoun.

www.dropsitenews.com

 

[arsekick]

Arabs are a race, many of them are Muslims, and you certainly seem to have a generic beef with them that is clearly based in overly generalized propaganda and misinformation.

So which is it? A rift between Muslims in their beliefs, or they're nearly all the same?

Maybe you should read a history book.

The muslims can't get along with each other let alone anyone else. There are Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims, they hate each other, then there are those that are not muslims that need conquering and converting according to the Quran. or pay a tax


The tax historically levied on non-Muslim subjects of a state governed by Islamic law is called jizya.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• What it is: Jizya (Arabic: جِزْيَة, romanized: jizya) was a type of taxation historically levied on non-Muslims living under Muslim rule.
  
  
• Purpose: It was seen as a form of tribute in exchange for protection and the right to practice their religion, as well as an exemption from military service.
  
  
• Quran and Hadiths: The Quran and hadiths mention jizya, though they don't specify the rate or amount, and its application varied throughout Islamic history.
  
  
• Dhimmi: Jizya was imposed on dhimmi, non-Muslim residents in Muslim countries
  
  
• Examples: Jews and Christians were required to pay the jizya.
  
  
• Abolition: Jizya was abolished by the third Mughal emperor Akbar in 1564, but was reintroduced by Aurangzeb in 1679.

 

[GenghisKush]

Arabs are a race

and those who would separate or categorize peoples according to (bullshit, discredited) ideas about race are, by definition, racists.

 

[Cannavore]

 

[moose eater]

Maybe you should read a history book.

The muslims can't get along with each other let alone anyone else. There are Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims, they hate each other, then there are those that are not muslims that need conquering and converting according to the Quran. or pay a tax


The tax historically levied on non-Muslim subjects of a state governed by Islamic law is called jizya.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• What it is: Jizya (Arabic: جِزْيَة, romanized: jizya) was a type of taxation historically levied on non-Muslims living under Muslim rule.
  
  
• Purpose: It was seen as a form of tribute in exchange for protection and the right to practice their religion, as well as an exemption from military service.
  
  
• Quran and Hadiths: The Quran and hadiths mention jizya, though they don't specify the rate or amount, and its application varied throughout Islamic history.
  
  
• Dhimmi: Jizya was imposed on dhimmi, non-Muslim residents in Muslim countries
  
  
• Examples: Jews and Christians were required to pay the jizya.
  
  
• Abolition: Jizya was abolished by the third Mughal emperor Akbar in 1564, but was reintroduced by Aurangzeb in 1679.

I should read a history book? It was you who was asserting something akin to all Muslims being alike.

But I should read a history book?

I don't need to refute what you have put forth. You've already quaintly done so earlier.

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And this is good stuff, too. Avi's an Arab-born Jew from Iraq, whose father moved them to Israel when the state of Israel was created.

 

[moose eater]

Maybe you should read a history book.

The muslims can't get along with each other let alone anyone else. There are Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims, they hate each other, then there are those that are not muslims that need conquering and converting according to the Quran. or pay a tax


The tax historically levied on non-Muslim subjects of a state governed by Islamic law is called jizya.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• What it is: Jizya (Arabic: جِزْيَة, romanized: jizya) was a type of taxation historically levied on non-Muslims living under Muslim rule.
  
  
• Purpose: It was seen as a form of tribute in exchange for protection and the right to practice their religion, as well as an exemption from military service.
  
  
• Quran and Hadiths: The Quran and hadiths mention jizya, though they don't specify the rate or amount, and its application varied throughout Islamic history.
  
  
• Dhimmi: Jizya was imposed on dhimmi, non-Muslim residents in Muslim countries
  
  
• Examples: Jews and Christians were required to pay the jizya.
  
  
• Abolition: Jizya was abolished by the third Mughal emperor Akbar in 1564, but was reintroduced by Aurangzeb in 1679.

Oh, and you're again conflating history books with religious documents, which speaks to your level of literalism in faiths that aren't necessarily literalist in their verbiage, but rather sometimes/often metaphorical in many of the teachings. And seemingly your insistence that they are you say is without the concept or realization of how far and fast media traveled any distance in those days, as but one of numerous errors in your 'logic' and arguments.

 

[arsekick]

Oh, and you're again conflating history books with religious documents, which speaks to your level of literalism in faiths that aren't necessarily literalist in their verbiage, but rather sometimes/often metaphorical in many of the teachings. And seemingly your insistence that they are you say is without the concept or realization of how far and fast media traveled any distance in those days, as but one of numerous errors in your 'logic' and arguments.

History is history, shit happened you can't whitewash it.