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armedoldhippy

armedoldhippy

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arsekick said:
America would never have a former CIA chief as president would it.
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he sucked too. i didn't vote for him. folks like that think the rules don't apply to them because they're "special". gosh, who does that remind you of? :unsure: whatcha got against Truman, just out of curiosity? he was a haberdasher for Gods sake! you are wasting your time on here pretending Putrid is a "moderate" anything, nobody buys your schtick.
 
arsekick

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armedoldhippy said:
he sucked too. i didn't vote for him. folks like that think the rules don't apply to them because they're "special". gosh, who does that remind you of? :unsure: whatcha got against Truman, just out of curiosity? he was a haberdasher for Gods sake! you are wasting your time on here pretending Putrid is a "moderate" anything, nobody buys your schtick.
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Reminds me of every politition ever

Atomic bombs.

He's a moderate comprared to some that would/should of nuked kiev, or at least bombed the shit out of it, like the USA would (shock and awe)
 
arsekick

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Good to see the USA going back to what it does best, bombing 3 world cuntrys from a distance, should put boots on the ground and kill the armed combatants instead of dropping bombs on women and children, but you stnuc do like a bit of callateral damage.
 
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armedoldhippy

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arsekick said:
Atomic bombs.
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got it. you hate Truman because he ended the war with Japan MONTHS earlier than was feared and without the loss of FAR more lives that a contested invasion of their homeland would undoubtedly have entailed versus bombing two cities and making it obvious that surrender was a more humane option.
arsekick said:
that would/should of nuked kiev
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so you think that Kiev resisting a second invasion justifies Russia nuking the city? "how DARE you resist! you must be assimilated!" you realize (i hope) that fallout from a nuclear blast travels & Kiev won't be the only place hit with radiation? or do you? not hard to tell the teams apart. Ukraine destroyed a bridge that Russia used to re-supply troops, while Russia hit a 5 story apartment building with a missile. yeah, that sounds right...if you are a Russian.
 
arsekick

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armedoldhippy said:
got it. you hate Truman because he ended the war with Japan MONTHS earlier than was feared and without the loss of FAR more lives that a contested invasion of their homeland would undoubtedly have entailed versus bombing two cities and making it obvious that surrender was a more humane option.

so you think that Kiev resisting a second invasion justifies Russia nuking the city? "how DARE you resist! you must be assimilated!" you realize (i hope) that fallout from a nuclear blast travels & Kiev won't be the only place hit with radiation? or do you? not hard to tell the teams apart. Ukraine destroyed a bridge that Russia used to re-supply troops, while Russia hit a 5 story apartment building with a missile. yeah, that sounds right...if you are a Russian.
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I realize history is not a strong point for you yanks, and you seem to think the worl revolves around the USA, but other shit does go on.

Japanese citys were already getting destroyed before the A bomb was dropped, good old carpet bombing was killing 10s of thousands already, and it never brought on a surrender.

You can thank the Russian entry into the war with Japan for that


"However, on 8 August 1945, two days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and the day before the second bomb fell on Nagasaki, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan. The news of impending war with the Soviet Union sent shockwaves through Japanese policy makers: just before he left Moscow for the Conference, Stalin had received a personal message from the Japanese Emperor, asking him to act as intermediary between Japan and the United States. The Soviet betrayal was an important factor in forcing Japan to surrender."


"The Soviets launched their invasion simultaneously on three fronts in the east, west and north of Manchuria, the day after the declaration of war. Soviet forces also conducted amphibious landings in Japan’s colonial periphery: Japan’s Northern Territories, on Sakhalin Island. The Soviet landings in Sakhalin faced significant Japanese resistance, but gradually succeeded in consolidating control over the entire island. By the night of Tuesday 14 August 1945, the Japanese government had sent a letter of surrender. The American Secretary of State Mr Byrnes considered, on behalf of the Allies, that it amounted to satisfactory acceptance of the terms of the Potsdam Declaration."
 
arsekick

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armedoldhippy said:
got it. you hate Truman because he ended the war with Japan MONTHS earlier than was feared and without the loss of FAR more lives that a contested invasion of their homeland would undoubtedly have entailed versus bombing two cities and making it obvious that surrender was a more humane option.

so you think that Kiev resisting a second invasion justifies Russia nuking the city? "how DARE you resist! you must be assimilated!" you realize (i hope) that fallout from a nuclear blast travels & Kiev won't be the only place hit with radiation? or do you? not hard to tell the teams apart. Ukraine destroyed a bridge that Russia used to re-supply troops, while Russia hit a 5 story apartment building with a missile. yeah, that sounds right...if you are a Russian.
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Don't hate Truman at all, but he was a mass murderer like the others you put up :ROFLMAO:


What second invasion ? were still on the first.
All Ukraine had to do was honour the Minsk aggrements, stop the killing of Russians in Ukraine and there would of been no need for the SMO in 2022.

America would of "shocked and awed the, Russia is taking it easy in comparsion.
 
shiva82

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@Ca++ , where are these north korean soldiers? when are you going to the frontline with your granny killing mate , two tier kier ? the fake socialists are destroying the u,k, killing the elderly and now are coming for the disabled . are you a civil servant ?
 
Ca++

Ca++

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lol@disabled. You mean, quite specifically, the kids that left school since covid, and can't work because they don't like the idea. It makes them unwell lol
Shit man, every scratcher I know it swinging the Lead. The people that do actually need help, are the one's that don't seem to get it. I fixed a guys boiler last week, after hearing it had been bust all winter. No charge. The values of socialism still exist. I just need to drag some of those spongers along to see how it's done. Bloody snowflakes. Cut them off.
 
Captain Red Eye

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arsekick said:
"However, on 8 August 1945, two days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and the day before the second bomb fell on Nagasaki, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan. The news of impending war with the Soviet Union sent shockwaves through Japanese policy makers: just before he left Moscow for the Conference, Stalin had received a personal message from the Japanese Emperor, asking him to act as intermediary between Japan and the United States. The Soviet betrayal was an important factor in forcing Japan to surrender."
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Thank you for bringing up a humanitarian point of view.

Popular mythology in the USA is double nuking civilians in Japan was to "save American soldiers lives" should a ground invasion happen. Nothing is further from the truth. No ground invasion was needed. Japan was already toast. Nuclear weapons are indiscriminate killers, Truman authorized melting babies, no getting around that.

Nuking a defeated opponent, especially the women, children and babies was a gross curb stomping of an already defeated opponent. USA propaganda applied to it's citizens was off the charts then and frankly still is. Truman had a new toy, nukes, and wanted to let the world know the USA was the new boss of the world. Like a kid that's been working out for a year wearing his little brothers t-shirt so everyone can see his new muscles.

Name a recent USA war and it was started with a propaganda campaign. The fuckers don't even call them "wars", they call them conflicts. Many Americans are naive.
 
Ca++

Ca++

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There are two sides to every story. That is why we have the international courts. They deal with war crimes, using the collective moral compass of the countries that fund the courts. Based in very tolerant, South Holland. It's one of the main pillars of the UN.

Obviously some countries can't sign up. Russia. Israel. The USA. Though the leader of the USA isn't wanted, he has made sanctions against them, For wanting some of his friends to come in and answer some questions.
It's not very decent is it, really.
 
nepalnt21

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They do when the USA invades that's for sure:ROFLMAO:
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doesn't make it ok, you're supposed to make sure you're not killing civilians unneccessarily (as though there's a neccessary reason to bomb children)...

the idf is maximizing its civilian casualties... they're very good at getting to EXTREME numbers without finally being held accountbale for it, they're pros.
 
Ca++

Ca++

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nepalnt21 said:
"prove it"

Imposing Sanctions on the International Criminal Court

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency
www.whitehouse.gov
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An American national emergency declared by trump, because the ICC want to talk to a couple of Israels politicians.

As usual, that is about 10% of the document, and 90% is just playing patty.

It's really quite crazy. Under the guise of a national emergency, the USA will do blar blar blar to the ICC members, and their families! If they don't themself break the law, by not acting.
To be clear, if nattyman yahoo is found wandering the streets of London, he will be arrested for war crimes. Trump can call that a national US emergency if he wants, but I think most people recognise the insanity of that. Even the MAGA crowd, probably don't want the Gaza Riviera, by the means they are employing.
 
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