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RobFromTX

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moose eater

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Miller's a cheese-dick, spineless apologist of the highest order.

Every IDF member involved should be sent to Hell slowly with dull instruments.

And every US apologist who drags their feet and tries to find some excuse, such as dismissing this as merely collateral damage, or continues sending arms to Bibi, should share that fate.
 

Cannavore

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Seems about twenty years too late.
just to double back to this for a sec... this is why i said you're a genocide apologist.

the translation to this post is essentially "oh well that was a long time ago, now they die"

shifting the goalposts to maintain the genocide is essentially no different than outright suppoirting the genocide.
 

Cannavore

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Miller's a cheese-dick, spineless apologist of the highest order.

Every IDF member involved should be sent to Hell slowly with dull instruments.

And every US apologist who drags their feet and tries to find some excuse, such as dismissing this as merely collateral damage, or continues sending arms to Bibi, should share that fate.
you gotta love the way that abc reporter frames it too. "Hind's death shrouded in mystery".... lmao what mystery? idf turned her car to swiss cheese because they target women and children specifically, and then used the survivor(s) as bait to kill a couple medical workers and whoever else tried to rescue.

then later in the video with the "hamas run health statistics". that one's always a classic.
 

moose eater

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you gotta love the way that abc reporter frames it too. "Hind's death shrouded in mystery".... lmao what mystery? idf turned her car to swiss cheese because they target women and children specifically, and then used the survivor(s) as bait to kill a couple medical workers and whoever else tried to rescue.

then later in the video with the "hamas run health statistics". that one's always a classic.
Minimization via manipulative/disingenuous language and reporting of spoofed stories throughout the genocide's furtherance. Complicity by those who are supposed to remain objective and be a source of accurate information...

But no significant propaganda in the free speech bastion called Amerika.... 'discovered' by Columbus.

Framing is about 1/2 the battle, other than for killing babies and delivering an insincere Pee Wee Herman type of apology. "Oops!! We greased another 100 kids. My bad."

It's my understanding that significant numbers of pro-Zionist Israelis have fled Israel, many of them likely for the US, thus increasing the probability that I'll encounter one or two in my travels. Be a real shame if one of them pops off in my presence about the Palestinians being 'human animals', considering my disposition about their incessant lies, murders, rapes, land theft, and such.
 

mean mr.mustard

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just to double back to this for a sec... this is why i said you're a genocide apologist.

the translation to this post is essentially "oh well that was a long time ago, now they die"

shifting the goalposts to maintain the genocide is essentially no different than outright suppoirting the genocide.

I don't think further violence is in any way productive.

I think it's disgusting that people think further violence is the solution.

There's plenty of instances of either side being committed to killing people.

It's not my call.

You can pretend that I am an apologist... but I am still against both sides killing innocent civilians.
 

Hiddenjems

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I don't think further violence is in any way productive.

I think it's disgusting that people think further violence is the solution.

There's plenty of instances of either side being committed to killing people.

It's not my call.

You can pretend that I am an apologist... but I am still against both sides killing innocent civilians.
The fact that Israel is an ethnostate with mandatory military service means any criticism of their policy is deflected as an attack on their ethnicity, and none of them are “civilians”.
 

moose eater

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He agrees with me why Harris lost. Some frightening foresights.
I thought it was an incredibly objective and straight-forward interview, and yes, with numerous foreshadowings of "Uh oh...."

I think most of what Hedges does is worthwhile, and this one was better than many, in my opinion.
 

moose eater

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The fact that Israel is an ethnostate with mandatory military service means any criticism of their policy is deflected as an attack on their ethnicity, and none of them are “civilians”.
Certainly the US-armed 'settlers' have forfeited any status as 'civilians', as have those living on others' land or in others' houses. And the IDF reservists and active duty are not civilians.

And those who've voted to perpetuate this apartheid state's theft, rapes, and murders, war crimes, etc. also share a hand in the current status.

Leaving what tiny percentage of Israel that can honestly claim any actual innocence with a straight face?
 

Cannavore

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What is your official estimate of the percentage of Israeli people who don't deserve a slow and torturous death?
You're more worried about a hypothetical situation that isn't happening and probably never will compared to the 70% women and children Palestinians who have been murdered.
 

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