Wanna Ask The Old Farts A Question?

[sharl]

lights left on!

lights left on!

hey, didnt read as much as shouldve probably, but kind of an emergency. was messin with my timer and forget to re-mess with it. lights in the bloom room stayed on 22 hours. when i discovered it, i shut em off. theyre supposed to come on in a few hours, what should i do: give em the twelve they need now or turn em on at theyre usually scheduled time? theyre about 2 1/2 weeks into flower. thanks so much!!!!

 

[Weezard]

Reading is good for you.

Reading is good for you.

I'd just leave them on until their next scheduled off time.
They don't care how long the days are.
But they will notice a short night.

Actually, Hempkat answered that at 4:47 this moring.
Just 6 posts back.

In your case, I'd give them a good night's sleep, (12 hours), then give them another long day until you reach your preferred times.


Aloha,
Weeze

 

[sharl]

yeah, thanks! i read his answer but i wanted to make sure i was thinkin right. yeah theyre off now so im gonna let em sleep for twelve hours, which does put em on an opposite schedule. then keep em on til i get it back right. right? okay. thank you so much

 

[Billy Burroughs]

hey, didnt read as much as shouldve probably, but kind of an emergency. was messin with my timer and forget to re-mess with it. lights in the bloom room stayed on 22 hours. when i discovered it, i shut em off. theyre supposed to come on in a few hours, what should i do: give em the twelve they need now or turn em on at theyre usually scheduled time? theyre about 2 1/2 weeks into flower. thanks so much!!!!

same here i'd just set your timer to whatever your light schedule is and keep trucking maybe start looking for nanners doubtful this one mishap is going to be the a bomb but never know that all boils down to genetics really and unless you bred it yourself and named it yourself really who knows what your growing sure it came from whatever it's parents are and are going to have some of there traits but not to say that the cross isnt going to exploit every bad thing about that particular genetic or you might hit the honet hole and get the one
but uh ya keep holding your breath for that really unless you have a cut from the plant that whatever breeder named so n so you dont have that strain thats all sales pitches ya the used car salesman said it was a rebuilt motor and tranny too marketing gimmicks but to each there own your movies
but ya ya just throw your timer back onto track and let it rock bro might want to keep an eye peeled for nanners not sayng your going to get any but i myself even if i've run the plant 20 times and not seen one i'm still a looking it only takes one

 

[Billy Burroughs]

Thats ok. I have it bad too.
You just have it worse than me....lol
No it does seem like you know what you are talking about.
I just have to copy paste and read a bit more to add anything beneficial besides my wisecracks

I meant no offence.

O no brother no offense here this is a god damn computer the only thing i can see getting mad at is a clock radio pretty much be the samething as punching out your monitor lol but i do play warcraft as well and man have i seen some doozies all over a video game like the kid trying to shove the remote up his ass lol spoof n all but still i've seen some people just loose it over that game almost like there life was coming to an end

 

[sharl]

thanks guys for all your help. i really appreciate it.

 

[sharl]

here's another question:
if my plants are showing signs of overferting but theyre still not really dry enough to warrant watering, should i wait til they want water to flush em, or do it now?

 

[HempKat]

No I was meaning the last few posts but it looks interesting enough and probably is , if the thread has been there for that long.
Now I don't feel so bad about some of my long winded posts
I'll read up.

for the suggestion.

Oh okay, I gotcha, well long winded is a trademark characteristic of old farts so you're cool....unless of course you're not an old fart.

 

[HempKat]

oh ya i caqnt stress this enough dont waste your money on cheap equipment you'll be back buying it again but dont splurge on the most expensive either just because it's 1000 bucks and this ones 400 doesnt mean that the 1000 dollar one is better its just more expensive
i want to say one thing here about dolomite lime say for instance i am forced to use it i add a small amount of epsom salts to my soil as well
but dolomite breaks down very very very slowly it comes in a pebble shape round and just hard as a rock take probablly a year or two for them to break completely down this is just a guess so it is very slow releasing it's not a right now fix it's something you'd want to toss into your soil and let compost for a few months then use the soil
myself to avoid using dolomite lime and or epsom salts i use a product called Calpril it dissolves instantlly upon water touching it so it can be a right now fix if need be nevaer have need it to be because even with this i let my soils compost always for at least 2 months
100% equipment equipment equipment i cant stress it enough for instance i brought up RO water filters you can buy a cheapie but your going to pay for it in your water bills or you can go out and spend 500 bucks on a merlin and run your RO like it was never there thus saving you the extra money you'd spend using the cheap 100-200 GPD models which then pays for the merlin once its paid for money in your pocket ??? thast up to you myself i put back into my gardens till theres just nothing more i can do other than wait for something to break

Actually dolomite lime breaks down alot easier and faster then you think. Typically the calcium and magnesium in it has been used up by the end of a grow. You are right though, it's definately not a quick fix. It's something you put in as you mix up your soil mix. Usually a rate of one tablespoon per gallon of soil mix is sufficient. If your environment tends to run acidic because the soil and/or water is acidic then you might want to use two tablespoons per gallon.

 

[HempKat]

hey, didnt read as much as shouldve probably, but kind of an emergency. was messin with my timer and forget to re-mess with it. lights in the bloom room stayed on 22 hours. when i discovered it, i shut em off. theyre supposed to come on in a few hours, what should i do: give em the twelve they need now or turn em on at theyre usually scheduled time? theyre about 2 1/2 weeks into flower. thanks so much!!!!

Well to avoid any issues you should give them 12 hours of dark from whatever point in time you shut them off. If that puts you out of your usual schedule then you'll have to readjust the next day. You should have just left them on until the next point they normally are supposed to go off. Cannabis has no sense of time for light periods, what they can measure is the length of dark periods. That's why it's important to insure each dark period is 12 hours so the plant is encouraged to stay in flower mode.

Oh and one last very important thing....stop messing with your timers, especially the ones involved in a currently active grow. Seriously though, in flower, plants like a steady reliable routine, their not good with surprises.

 

[HempKat]

yeah, thanks! i read his answer but i wanted to make sure i was thinkin right. yeah theyre off now so im gonna let em sleep for twelve hours, which does put em on an opposite schedule. then keep em on til i get it back right. right? okay. thank you so much

you got it

 

[HempKat]

here's another question:
if my plants are showing signs of overferting but theyre still not really dry enough to warrant watering, should i wait til they want water to flush em, or do it now?

Well if they're just "showing signs" that usually just means burnt tips. It also means the damage is already done. Unless it's real bad flushing won't help much if any. I'd wait until they need to be watered normally but next watering just give them water and nothing else.

 

[stoNerd]

Billy thanks for the advice on the grow room setup. I might just throw it in the corner of a room and drive the heat upstairs, since winter is just around the corner. I do live up north, so heat from the sun is never an issue. Funny story about the growers boarding up their ac venting

HempKat, that basically sums up everything I needed to know about c02 and ventilation. I think I am ready to get the hammer and nails out. Subscribed to this thread btw. Thank you again for such a thorough reply both of you.

A&S

 

[gsmoked]

well people the time has come ,i am currently on my third soil grow and the time has come to go hydro ! i have been using a red 300 w cfl and bio bloom but luckily enough i have a mate who is lending me his 250 hps and 4 pot system , i only have to wait a week or so and will have four critical jack clones , just waiting to get my carbon filter and im away canny wait anyone else grown this strain at all ?

 

[Billy Burroughs]

Billy thanks for the advice on the grow room setup. I might just throw it in the corner of a room and drive the heat upstairs, since winter is just around the corner. I do live up north, so heat from the sun is never an issue. Funny story about the growers boarding up their ac venting

HempKat, that basically sums up everything I needed to know about c02 and ventilation. I think I am ready to get the hammer and nails out. Subscribed to this thread btw. Thank you again for such a thorough reply both of you.

A&S

o ya anytime man whatever method you decide to go with the room design will work out for ya it's imporatnat to have something to reflect that light back towards your grow only way your lights are going to work properly good luck man

 

[Billy Burroughs]

i use sunshine #4 bales so they come with dolomite already in them really i suppose i could get away with not adding the Calpril but it doesnt hurt anything with it in there and with as much material i add to them sunshine bales the lil extra probably doesnt hurt i typically add a handful or two in one mix and only thing i add epsom salts to is my veg water on occasion beings i have to use RO water give em a bone here n there gotta beat them bitches a lil bit but they gotta know who daddy is

 

[Billy Burroughs]

well people the time has come ,i am currently on my third soil grow and the time has come to go hydro ! i have been using a red 300 w cfl and bio bloom but luckily enough i have a mate who is lending me his 250 hps and 4 pot system , i only have to wait a week or so and will have four critical jack clones , just waiting to get my carbon filter and im away canny wait anyone else grown this strain at all ?

only three grows why not wait 3 years then switch first might want to know how to grow marijuana before you make that leap but more power to you i hope you've saved every last bud from them 3 harvests because i'm willing to bet your going to need it to get by without having to buy any i've yet to se anyone roll into hydro that wasnt an experienced gardener and instant success but hey like i always say the sun shines on a hogs ass every once in awhile

 

[Billy Burroughs]

ya any amount of flushing you do at this point aint going to help the fact that they're already burnt so i'd just wait until next watering as well and water at least this next time with water only if not the next one or two after the initial
now if you were using an amended soil you wouldnt see stuff like this ever molasses doesnt burn and neither does water or carbohydrates unless your pH is off the charts
i dunno what it costs to run a bottled nute line i seen the price of about 3 bottles and was turned off right there when i found out there were 10 more that you needed if your going to grow in soil you might as well grow organic and organics DO NOT COME IN A BOTTLE the guy at the hydro store said mmhmm and my toyotas out front with a blown motor has a rubuilt tranny n motor when it comes time to sell it hydro store owners are right up there with about a used car salesman imo i've found that most of them barely know how to turn on the equipment they sale but they aint going to tell you that they're the expert maybe expert at selling you shit you dont need other than that theres very few hydro store owners or employees that i would trust there opinion
they make so much off the mark up of the equipment theres no reason for them to grow anything but tomatoes and peppers in there shops
i use organic fairly loosely as well theres a time for organic and theres a time for chemicals and pests warrant chemicals especially mites i use flora mite and avid one product one week the next product the next week and keep doing this til they are all dead only in veg of course and fungus gnats forget them mosquito dunks go buy yourself some Gnatrol it'll kill them all in 2 doses instead of 3 or 4 with the mosquito dunks
ABOVE ALL ELSE SAVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE POWER IS EXPENSIVE

 

[Gold123]

ya any amount of flushing you do at this point aint going to help the fact that they're already burnt so i'd just wait until next watering as well and water at least this next time with water only if not the next one or two after the initial
now if you were using an amended soil you wouldnt see stuff like this ever molasses doesnt burn and neither does water or carbohydrates unless your pH is off the charts
i dunno what it costs to run a bottled nute line i seen the price of about 3 bottles and was turned off right there when i found out there were 10 more that you needed if your going to grow in soil you might as well grow organic and organics DO NOT COME IN A BOTTLE the guy at the hydro store said mmhmm and my toyotas out front with a blown motor has a rubuilt tranny n motor when it comes time to sell it hydro store owners are right up there with about a used car salesman imo i've found that most of them barely know how to turn on the equipment they sale but they aint going to tell you that they're the expert maybe expert at selling you shit you dont need other than that theres very few hydro store owners or employees that i would trust there opinion
they make so much off the mark up of the equipment theres no reason for them to grow anything but tomatoes and peppers in there shops
i use organic fairly loosely as well theres a time for organic and theres a time for chemicals and pests warrant chemicals especially mites i use flora mite and avid one product one week the next product the next week and keep doing this til they are all dead only in veg of course and fungus gnats forget them mosquito dunks go buy yourself some Gnatrol it'll kill them all in 2 doses instead of 3 or 4 with the mosquito dunks
ABOVE ALL ELSE SAVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE POWER IS EXPENSIVE

Where are you finding Gnatrol? Can't find it in Cali. Are you using liquid Gnatrol or granules? I got my hands on an 3/4 empty 2.5 gallon bottle and it's about gone. Would like to find more.

 

[Fat J]

Hydro is easier for some... not most... but some.