DANGER NHB
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Yo sorry bro ,i have big bangs under alternateing 600w lights on hydro ,and looking to get 2/3 oz a plant my room is now optimum RH,Temp ,all good . Greenhouse seeds
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gabjaz
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Help, what next??
Help, what next??
Hello,
Last time I posted there where 4 plants with undetermined sex. Sex has now been determined. Three females and one male. I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I have been reading threads and books and everything I can get my hands on and I still can't get a firm handle on exactly what to do.
Okay, here goes:
Lights: Started the 12/12 8 days ago 01/30/10.
PH: The soil has been tested with a soil tester and the PH is about 6.7 on all plants.
Ferts: Advanced Nutrients: Micro, Grow and Bloom
Questions:
1) Should Nutrients still be given? How much and when should they be stopped? Also, (and this is really dumb) when mixing the nutrients in a 1 gallon container they have been added and mixed in this order Micro, Grow then the Bloom. Is this the right order?
I have read that this strain is not a heavy feeder C99XNL, so they have been fed about 1/2 to 3/4 of Buzboys Flora feeding Schedule.
2) The little boy..... Hate to just throw him into the compost pile..
. Would it be worth a try to make cannabutter out of him? or could he be dried and cured and see what happens?
3) and this really scares me.... should the PH be lowered?? My friend has a PH Up and Down product, but is very nervous about using it.... Seem the PH should be around 6.2. Also, the PH has only been tested with a soil meter not by the run off water.
Peace, GJ
Help, what next??
Hello,
Last time I posted there where 4 plants with undetermined sex. Sex has now been determined. Three females and one male. I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I have been reading threads and books and everything I can get my hands on and I still can't get a firm handle on exactly what to do.
Okay, here goes:
Lights: Started the 12/12 8 days ago 01/30/10.
PH: The soil has been tested with a soil tester and the PH is about 6.7 on all plants.
Ferts: Advanced Nutrients: Micro, Grow and Bloom
Questions:
1) Should Nutrients still be given? How much and when should they be stopped? Also, (and this is really dumb) when mixing the nutrients in a 1 gallon container they have been added and mixed in this order Micro, Grow then the Bloom. Is this the right order?
I have read that this strain is not a heavy feeder C99XNL, so they have been fed about 1/2 to 3/4 of Buzboys Flora feeding Schedule.
2) The little boy..... Hate to just throw him into the compost pile..
. Would it be worth a try to make cannabutter out of him? or could he be dried and cured and see what happens?3) and this really scares me.... should the PH be lowered?? My friend has a PH Up and Down product, but is very nervous about using it.... Seem the PH should be around 6.2. Also, the PH has only been tested with a soil meter not by the run off water.
Peace, GJ
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I hope I don't offend you, but this is clearly your opionion, right?
I have a much different view on this
or the one answered many times in a thread over and over
come one, if people would do a little research they would be able to ask smarter questions.
this explains my point in greater detail
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Sorry if Im budding in on the old farts section, I am one and would like to be recognized as such eventually
If you're over 40 and know how to grow you are already one.
Not sure if this is helps but if your doing cloning heating mates and keeping the roots warm helps they really don't like having their feet cold. But yeah the closer they get to the airconditioner the more color they seem to show aswell i.e. purple . For the most part plants hate the cold they seem to stop growing when you go too low,peace out Headband707
Yo sorry bro ,i have big bangs under alternateing 600w lights on hydro ,and looking to get 2/3 oz a plant my room is now optimum RH,Temp ,all good . Greenhouse seeds
I'm not familiar with that strain so I don't know it's characteristics. In general though you want to flip to 12/12 when the plant is no more then half the target height. That's based on the notion that plants will double even sometimes triple in height during the stretch phase (first 2 - 3 weeks of flower). So if you wanted a 3' plant, using that general rule of thumbe you would switch to 12/12 when they were 18 inches tall. If I were growing under 600W lights I'd want the plants to be no taller then 4' and preferably closer to 3 feet. At that hieght you should get good bud developement from the whole plant and not just the top half. Getting 2/3 an oz off of a 3' to 4' plant should be a piece of cake.
Hello,
Last time I posted there where 4 plants with undetermined sex. Sex has now been determined. Three females and one male. I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I have been reading threads and books and everything I can get my hands on and I still can't get a firm handle on exactly what to do.
Okay, here goes:
Lights: Started the 12/12 8 days ago 01/30/10.
PH: The soil has been tested with a soil tester and the PH is about 6.7 on all plants.
Ferts: Advanced Nutrients: Micro, Grow and Bloom
Questions:
1) Should Nutrients still be given? How much and when should they be stopped? Also, (and this is really dumb) when mixing the nutrients in a 1 gallon container they have been added and mixed in this order Micro, Grow then the Bloom. Is this the right order?
I have read that this strain is not a heavy feeder C99XNL, so they have been fed about 1/2 to 3/4 of Buzboys Flora feeding Schedule.
2) The little boy..... Hate to just throw him into the compost pile..
3) and this really scares me.... should the PH be lowered?? My friend has a PH Up and Down product, but is very nervous about using it.... Seem the PH should be around 6.2. Also, the PH has only been tested with a soil meter not by the run off water.
Peace, GJ
1) Feeding schedules based on one person's idea of right isn't always a good thing, unless of course that person is a known expert and/or that person made the product. I've never used Advanced Nutrients before but I understand they're pretty good. I've heard people say that if you go to their website you can find feeding schedules based on the specific product you're using. With some multi part formulas you do stop giving the veg fert at 12/12. With others you keep giving it but add the bloom. Never do you stop feeding them except for once in a while to avoid salt buildups and at the end about a week before harvest so the plant uses up what's already in the soil and/or stored in the leaves. This improves how the smoke burns, some say it improves the taste and you're not wasting nutrients you don't need to give.
As to things like the order to mix things, how often and how much to give of things in this case you should consult the manufacturer. With products not made specifically for marijuana you sometimes have to be careful because the manufacturer's suggested rate may be too much. Advanced Nutirents is made specifically for marijuana though or at the least has been actively tried and tested on marijuana so you should be able to trust what they tell you.
Another thing about Buzboy's schedule, Flora is a brand so I would take that to mean what he suggests is based on using that brand. If you're not using Flora then what he's suggesting might be all wrong for you.
As for the plant's you have and thier feeding habits. If someone were to say to me a plant is not a heavy feeder I would take that to mean it's a normal feeder. Some strains are consider nutrient hogs and can take more nutrients so these you would give more then normal amounts. Other strains are considered light feeders or nutrient sensitive is another term people use sometimes. These kind of plants you would feed less to. In your case since it wasn't specified as a loght feeder I'd just give it normal amounts and then cut back if normal amounts seems to be too much. I haven't grown the combo you're growing but I am familiar with both the parent strains and neither of them seemed like light feeders. C-99 I'd say is normal and NL is normal to heavy.
2) You could use the male to make canna butter but it's not going to be very potent. Males do have some minor THC content. Enough so that you can take the leaves, dry them, smoke them, and get a mild buzz. Nothing worth going out of your way for though. I hear what you're saying about not wanting to waste him but personally I say you should just compost him. He'll do more good there ultimately then he will in a pipe, bong, or cooked into something.
3) The PH doesn't have to be lowered if it actually is 6.7. That's a bit high but still within the acceptable range (6.2 - 6.8). The only thing is that most soil testers from what I've heard aren't terribly accurate. I'd be much more confident of the ph going by the run off rather then some soil meter.
Not sure if this is helps but if your doing cloning heating mates and keeping the roots warm helps they really don't like having their feet cold. But yeah the closer they get to the airconditioner the more color they seem to show aswell i.e. purple . For the most part plants hate the cold they seem to stop growing when you go too low,peace out Headband707
Heating mats are fine for cloning although many people say they get too warm so I wouldn't use them unless I was in a cold room. I've successfully cloned with temps as low as 70 degrees F but all in all it's best to keep clones around 78 to 80 degrees F. Once they establish roots though the mat is no longer needed and the roots should be kept warm by the medium it's in. Now again if you're in a cold room then yeah you might want to warm the roots up a bit but as long as they're warmer then say 65 degrees F (in soil) they should be fine and not require additional heating.
Adding a "black light" does absolutely no good. People think it does because Black lights are also known as UV or Ultra Violet lights and what can be good to add is lights that give off UV-a and UV-b radiation like the lights used in tanning beds for example. Exposing plants to UV radiation along with your regular grow lights is said to help increase trichome production. It's believed that this works because one of the functions of trichomes to the plant is to help protect the plant like a sun screen. Apparently trichomes have excellent UV absorbtion capabilities. The only problem is prolonged exposure for humans to UV-a or UV-b can cause skin cancer so you wouldn't want to be hanging out in the grow room if you were using the right kind of UV light.
Black lights are just normal fluorescent lights with dark purplish glass for the outer part of the bulb instead of white. It looks almost black when not lit and and ultra violet color when lit.
Yeah I'm not sure where you are but it's pretty cold where I am and yeah I agree if the room is keeped warm your golden. I had some friends tring to clone without the mat and they just couldn't get them to take . They got the mat and and it was the trick they needed was my point. peace out Headband707
Yeah I'm not sure where you are but it's pretty cold where I am and yeah I agree if the room is keeped warm your golden. I had some friends tring to clone without the mat and they just couldn't get them to take . They got the mat and and it was the trick they needed was my point. peace out Headband707
Well I'm in the mid Atlantic buried under several feet of snow so it is chilly here. Anyway I just finished rooting a round of clones (44 total) and never used a heating Mat. I do keep the place nice and warm by the way I have then ventilation done and utilizing the heat from my 1000W light in the flower room. If the room your clones are in is consistently below 70 degrees F then yeah a heating mat might be just the ticket. If on the other hand your room is in the 70's and you use a heating mat it might prove to be too much.
I only mention these things to encourage people to think thru their own unique situations rather then do things just because someone recommended it. Every grow room and every grower is different and while another's experience can serve as a guide, ultimately the grower needs to learn his space and figure out what works best.
Yeah must be very different from East to West I would say.. You guys have a high humitidy in summer and then low in the winter right? and fucking colder then shit in the winter lol.. Yeah I remember that .. I think lots of the info give might be according to the area ,strain etc. I had one strain and it was just a bitch to try and clone . I got some but only a couple. It just didn't grow in a way that you would take clones off of it either hard to explain. For the most part it's very easy to clone just one in a hunderd will give you a problem peace out Headband707
Yeah humid in the summer, dry in the winter. Winters can be very cold but usually it's not that bad for the mid atlantic region. Although these past 2 weeks have been rather harsh with 3 back to back storms each dropping a foot or more of snow. I know some places get that kind of thing every winter but the mid atlantic isn't used to that kind of weather.
You are right, environment and strain does factor in largely to what advice should be given. That's one of the things that makes growing seem hard and confusing, because there usually isn't one blanket rule one can apply to caring for thier plants.
gabjaz
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Thanks HemKat, you have helped me so much. I have increased feeding up to the recommended amount and so far my girls are looking good. I was just a bit worried about nutrient burn. Next time I'll invest in a PH Pen, but I think my PH is within range to get through the next few weeks.
I have make a number of mistakes and feel lucky to be at this point with 3 healthy girls!
Peace, GJ
I have make a number of mistakes and feel lucky to be at this point with 3 healthy girls!
Peace, GJ
Well damn I'm glad you see that lol ... Some think all of Canada is the same the obviously haven't been to BC lol.Outdoor and rainforest just doesn't work well together lol lol.. We have been watching on the News how cold it is there DAMN!!! Van wants your snow lol. I went downtown today and there was a cop on every single block for both sides of the street on Hastings St for the 16 blocks as drove down the road it's unreal , ffs peace out Headband707
All perfectly normal, even I made and still at times make mistakes, it's part of the human condition.
