Vote YES or NO on Prop 19

[krunchbubble]

I apologize.My posts were aweful.My Mom dying before my eyes is such a hard thing to witness.No excuses.I went POSTAL when I should have just tried to go to bed and sleep my 2 hours a night.It is tough dealing w/a major illness when you are already ill.My Mom means everything in the world to me.Hospice came today and told us 2 months tops.She looks like a concentration camp victim...skin and bones and marinol isnt working,for me either as I have a script for 30mg daily.I will continue to be in agony and puke on a daily basis,wishing for a different outcome that will never come.Once again I am sorry I'll keep my evil thoughts to myself.Better luck next time I guess. Peace and One Love-BigD and after 5 years or better writing/calling/e-mailing.Its over for now.All I get are dirty looks from my wife and family when I try and play advocate.I'm done for now.

you act like this is OUR fault......

 

[SOTF420]

On a positive note Meg Whitman got spanked, no big suprise on that one really. She would have been a nail in the coffin for Cannabis she is such a square. Jerry Brown is in hopefully he gets the state back on track with the many issues we are facing here, gonna be a struggle.

 

[Hammerhead]

you all need to get over it and go smoke a bowl arguing about it now is pointless

 

[krunchbubble]

going to hit the Giants parade tomorrow and celebrate!!!!! just keep sniffing the air for the finest pure kush....

damn! this proposition took some years of my life off.....

i love you all!

 

[Leon Brooks]

if this does not pass... i will leave this pathetic hypocritical joke of a country... that, for me, would be the last straw.

do as i say not as i do america. VOMIT. only question is what modern country isnt being bullied by the U.S. for me to move too. "greatest country on the planet" yet one of the farthest behind in so many critical areas of social programs. education, healthcare,infrastructure. what good is survival of the fittest (capitalism) if we are all dumb and sick. oh thats right, easier to control the weak.

this county is a joke and a bad one at that.

so long to all have fun in the most imprisoned nation on the planet. china looks better and better everyday( dont let the gov tell you its soooo bad, cause its not) but ill think ill start off somewhere in europe. im young, 25, married with a kid on the way (couple of weeks) and i feel bad that my daughter will be born an american citizen. im already doing wrong by her.

yes i have my med card so this doesnt "directly" affect me but thats not what its about. i really had hope,LOLOL, for the people as i had none for the government and now that too is gone.

too all that feel this is the greatest country on the planet, have you ever actually thought about it? truly ask your self why you believe that then google world statistics and see what it is that would make the statement true. the government wants you to believe that so they can keep you here and tax you. dont pay your taxes? welcome to the worlds number one (the only thing america is number one in) prison population (25% of the world inmate population yet less then 5% world total population). freedom?

 

[Shcrews]

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[Runner]

going to hit the Giants parade tomorrow and celebrate!!!!! just keep sniffing the air for the finest pure kush....

damn! this proposition took some years of my life off.....

i love you all!

Banality of greed

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

growers/dealers were the swing voters in this how can you say they didnt affect it?

IF RICH LEE HAD MADE A PROP 19 THAT WAS MORE FRIENDLY TO MOMNPOP GROWERS AND LESS SUPPORTIVE OF HUGE BIG PHARMA TAKING OVER.....most growers would have voted Yes and i think that would have been enough to make it a closer race..

I seriously doubt it. The amount of growers who profit from 215 is so minor you couldnt even call it a hiccup. Your talking of a demographic of less than 15,000 people. Which isnt even 1/8 of the republican base in my county...

 

[Tripsick]

Arizona. Medical Marijuana is close as hell

No 635,248 50%

Yes 626,488 50%

 

[Block2TheFuture]

Dang bigD you have been on here two years or more with your constant attention seeking. You are a grown man, tell your wife to stuff it and get your crops going again wtf? I helped you out in the past under another handle until you decided you would like everything to be free, I'm sure others have too. Seriously, there are support forums for people with chronic conditions specifically, this isn't the place except for in the med patients forum.

 

[LastWaltz]

1) All the growers that voted no are the "swing" vote. Whether you like it or not, when the margin is less then then number of you who voted no, unfortunately in definition it is "your" fault.

2) Republican turnout was EXPECTED stop saying it has anything to do with the results PERIOD. They were no surprise, see above.

3) Momentum swings BOTH ways, not just when it suites us. Just as if prop19 had passed and had positive impacts on other states/countries so is the inverse true.

4) Why would you close the thread when this is a very important topic to almost everyone here.

5) If you believe that the impacts of this vote are not global you are oblivious to how the world works.

6) Only 30% of the votes have been counted...

7) Would I have liked this to pass? Yes, but that is from my perspective I assessed the benefits and drawbacks to locals as well as to the rest of the cannabis community and came to the conclusion that the needs of many out way the needs of a few.

8) The thing about 2 years from now... it's two years from now. Step back and look at the federal picture....

9) Just stating some facts for clarification, not calling anyone out.

10) I've adopted the approach that on this forum I will respect people based on their knowledge and friendliness, NOT POLITICAL VIEWS. Karma

 

[Hazelnuts]

I'd just like to throw out a big FUCK YOU to everyone who helped defeat this proposition. You're (yes, you, dear reader) a FUCKING ASSHOLE if you voted no and you also helped defeat your precious Jack Herer initiative, because if you think it's gonna pass now, you're fucking wrong. Seriously.

 

[krunchbubble]

associated press declares it defeated...........

 

[krunchbubble]

richard lee just said its defeated...............

 

[Hammerhead]

it's still 45 55 losing

 

[lbezphil2005]

Cal supreme court

Cal supreme court

I would like to know what % of in state residents vs out of state residents want Prop 19 passed, or not.


I am an in state resident who will be voting NO for the following reasons:
§11300 legalizes possession, processing, and transportation of up to an ounce for personal consumption and cultivation of up to 25 square-feet for personal use. It also prohibits consumption in public and smoking marijuana anywhere children are present as well as sales except by licensed vendors. Neither the words "city", "county", or "local government" appear in this section. Since the impact of this initiative on California's current medical marijuana laws is exempted only for "cities" and only with regard to "sales", "tax", "possession" and "consumption" of marijuana, it could be interpreted to set limits for patients on possession and consumption in unincorporated areas where the local jurisdiction is the county.
Since "cultivation" is nowhere in the document related to the exemption for current California medical marijuana law, ROT 2010 could be used to set marijuana cultivation limits statewide, for medical patients as well as recreational users.
This is all the more likely because recently the California Court of Appeals struck California Health & Safety Code §11362.77 enacted by the legislature which limits the number of plants and weight of dried bud medical marijuana patients can have because it conflicts with Proposition 215 (§11362.5) which has no limits. This matter is currently on appeal to the California Supreme Court.
Since ROT 2010 as an initiative has the same authority as Proposition 215 and is 14 years afterwards, it could well be argued that it was the intent of the voters to set limits where there were none, or to allow each city or county to set limits on how much patients may cultivate and possess. This possibility is further supported by the conspicuous absence of Health & Safety Codes 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.83 in the list of California laws ROT 2010 is not intended to affect in Section 2, C - Intent.
http://www.examiner.com/x-14883-San...galization-initiative-is-still-a-Trojan-Horse

Fed court already said that elements of 420, which the legislators put in to law, are not enforceable because prop215 left no room for legislation. read that "no room for legislation". which means, as 215 was written so 215 stands no matter what 420 says. Simple. And that was the Federal 8th district court, so Im pretty sure it's already out of the supreme courts hands

 

[kmk420kali]

growers/dealers were the swing voters in this how can you say they didnt affect it?

IF RICH LEE HAD MADE A PROP 19 THAT WAS MORE FRIENDLY TO MOMNPOP GROWERS AND LESS SUPPORTIVE OF HUGE BIG PHARMA TAKING OVER.....most growers would have voted Yes and i think that would have been enough to make it a closer race..

Dude...you are crazy--
There are not enough Stoners.all together, to pass this-- It was not the TRAITORS that stopped this...it was because it was not fucking restrictive enough to gain the General Public vote--
You think a more Liberal Prop will have a chance, you are on crack!!
Fuck each and every one of you that voted no...fucking Traitors--
Maybe in 2 years we can have a better one, right?? Is that your weed slangin' Companies strategy??
Fuck this-- You Mother Fucker's want Outlaws... you got 'em-- Maybe you are the next one to get robbed... Fuck doing things Legal!!
Ok...maybe I shouldn't be pointing this at you alone...so I say this to all that voted no!!
I am pissed...can you tell--
Don't cry when we act like Gangsters...and take your shit-- Fuck the System....it doesn't work--
Anarchy Bitches!! Fuck off-- Wild Wild West!!

 

[Devilboy]

going to hit the Giants parade tomorrow and celebrate!!!!! just keep sniffing the air for the finest pure kush....

dammit krunch now every one is gonna be pissed at me..lol sniff for the second finest smellin kush and ull find krunch hahahahahaaaaaa

 

[krunchbubble]

Dude...you are crazy--
There are not enough Stoners.all together, to pass this-- It was not the TRAITORS that stopped this...it was because it was not fucking restrictive enough to gain the General Public vote--
You think a more Liberal Prop will have a chance, you are on crack!!
Fuck each and every one of you that voted no...fucking Traitors--
Maybe in 2 years we can have a better one, right?? Is your weed slangin' Companies strategy??
Fuck this-- You Mother Fucker's want Outlaws... you got 'em-- Maybe you are the next one to get robbed... Fuck doing things Legal!!
Ok...maybe I shouldn't be pointing this at you alone...so I say this to all that voted no!!
I am pissed...can you tell--
Don't cry when we act like Gangsters...and take your shit-- Fuck the System....it doesn't work--
Anarchy Bitches!! Fuck off-- Wild Wild West!!

actually richard lee said he is already working on a "better" proposition about 8 minutes ago on ktvu channel 2.....

 

[Guywithoutajeep]

So whats going to be in the next bill that will make all the growers change their minds?