The Doktor
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dat iron...
LMAO!
dat iron...
I dont assign greater morality to either side... I expect very little from both in terms of quality... There are exceptions on either side. As far as being "cleaner"... they will use whatever they are allowed... and they are already "allowed" quite a few items on the PAN bad actors list... I only request the right to be left alone and grow myself... and not to have that usurped in the name of cannabis "freedom".
But - totally legalizing herb would add regulations that would stop your chemical weed scenario from occurring.
While an argument can be made to support more regulations for safer growing practices, I will only point you to the current state of corporate agriculture and the regulation of the vegetables you currently ingest, or at least vegetables ingested by those living in the US.
GMO crops laden with pesticide residues is exactly what you buy at the supermarket. Even "USDA Organic" foods have been taken over by big corporations. In the case of "organic" foods you can rest easy knowing that the pesticides they used came from a plant, never mind their toxicity to humans, or the interval required before harvest.
Pyrethrum can be sprayed on food crops 24 hours before harvest. Pyrethrum comes from Chrysanthemums, but I wouldn't want to bathe in it or eat it, nor would I want to ingest small amounts over an extended period of time, but unfortunately buying "organic" is the next best thing to growing your own food or getting it from a co-op or farmers market you trust.
Just because it's "legal" doesn't make it safe, and while pyrethrum is considered a fairly safe pesticide, it's chronic ingestion is completely unstudied and people ingest it daily, albeit in very small amounts. Just because it doesn't kill you, AKA it isn't "toxic", doesn't mean it doesn't interact or interrupt biological processes.
The part you seem to be missing is that PM and other conglomerated have been growing tobacco for decades and the tech and resources at their disposal are more than all the growers in America combined. You keep going back to food crops for your chemical boogyman and those are not what they use for tobacco plants for consumption. I have more faith in the Fed and their regulations for safer MJ chemicals than I do from 99% of the growers today using every and anything they can to get that bag up to weight. We get that you need it to be all organic and shit personally bagged by the hippy hemp fairy and smoked with non combustible fire in an earth friendly glass pipe with filtered natural spring water straight out of the ground, but the rest of the population will not give a shit as long as it is good and it is at a reasonable price that also doesn't come with a pair of stainless steel tiffany cuffs and a bed and breakfast with bars on the windows. The only ones left growing their own stuff are going to be the same kind of folks that like to grow their own vegetables for either just themselves or to sell at some busted ass roadside produce stand. Because believe me, once the big money moves in, there will be boutiques for the connoisseur level no different than the high end cigar shops you see today. Once they can get the production levels up you will see the prices drop like a lead fart which will in turn make the small indoor growers and their shoestring grow ops with their dangerous chemicals and lord knows what else disappear. And to that I say good.
point proven.
You and I clearly disagree on what constitutes "connoisseur level"... I hope one day you get to actually experience it.
The right to grow our own is enshrined in the CO State Constitution, so unless a person moves elsewhere, giving that up to have legal weed is a non sequiter.
Yeah, so long as you don't need to grow more than 6 plants. 7 plants and you go to jail for 1-3 years no questions asked.
The part you seem to be missing is that PM and other conglomerated have been growing tobacco for decades and the tech and resources at their disposal are more than all the growers in America combined. You keep going back to food crops for your chemical boogyman and those are not what they use for tobacco plants for consumption. I have more faith in the Fed and their regulations for safer MJ chemicals than I do from 99% of the growers today using every and anything they can to get that bag up to weight.
That's what butwang kept saying as well....
Show me where it's happening. Should be all over the news/papers if folks are going to prison for 1-3 years for a one plant overrage.
And why all the 'noids?
25 years of gardens here. We've never been in count. Always a few extra as we look for new strains or make seeds... or more likely... just because we plain fucking feel like growing extra.
If you have proof folks are going down in this manner...show it.
I would love to see it.
You say you trust the government more than the growers. Is not the government composed of people with the same ethics. What is the difference between the two morally?
I would much rather the government stay out of my business. The government is way to corrupted because they are just like everyone else. If you are worried about poisons in your weed get it from a company that has it tested. You know someone who cares about their customer base and caters to their customers. Add money to it with an informed customer and that results in the best ethics. Add money and a ignorant customer who trusts the government to do their due dilligents and you get corruption. Corruption that leads to poisoned weed.
No government for me thank you. The poeple I am around are to stupid to make a informed vote.