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flylowgethigh

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The secret to good tent control is a filtered inlet fan as well as a ( for smell mostly) a filtered outlet fan. The inlet fan can be in a box with the duct from the fan going through the side of the box into the tent to be distributed. Tape the box shut and sealed with the hose going out the side also sealed, and tape a good house filter on a side of the box. The box has to be sealed because inside is a lot of negative pressure to suck air through the filter. I use 10” x 20” 3M 1900 filters, which collect a lot of dust and dawg hairs, and most importantly prevent spider mites and maybe mold. This was the change that really improved my plants.

The exit fan and inlet fan run continuously, set to achieve desired flow of lung room air into the tent, and warm moist air out of the room. Differential speeds between the inlet and outlet fan determine the tent pressure relative to the lung room. I like just a touch of positive pressure, enough to slightly puff out the tent, so there is no dust or mites getting sucked through the zipper leaks.

My 6” AC Infinity manual control inlet fan runs at setting #3, the dual filtered 6” outlet fans are at 5-6. Those go through a 8” wall fan that is barely running. Don’t want too much air noise on the outside exit. Running the fans at a constant setting is best. Forget trying to control humidity and temps with a controller. Get a little 3 sensor remote temp/ humidity unit and locate the sensors to read different locations in the tent. Dial in the fan flows and lung room conditions to make the inside sensors read what you want. The location of the sensors in various places in the tent will Vary in temp and humidity a lot, depending if they are at soil height, midway up the plants, or at the tops where the light heat is and moisture from the leaves.

Growing during the cold dry North American winters makes life a lot easier. Adding humidity is easier than taking it out, which usually also adds heat. Fighting the ambient summer weather is a lot of work and expense and electricity and noise.

That is my formula for good environmental control, simple and stable. Tweaking the lung room with a space heater, humidifier, and hanging out in here with the dawg for CO2 generation, works.

See the grow room section for a good tent SWICK water system for automated watering for bags of living soil.
 
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Mastermind23

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Found it. It was part of another thread

Speed1=23.5%
Sp2=31.5%
3=39
49
56
64
72
80.5
88.5
98



The problem is, moving from speed1 to speed2 isn't a 10% increase. From 24-32 is near 40% faster.
1-2 = +40% faster
2-3 = +30%
3-4 = +25%

+10%
+10%
+10%

40% Jump is an oversight. If I can only go from 24 - 99 in 10 steps, I would like 15% steps
I did not even remember, why I thought every step would be +10 %.
So every step 10% would be a valid division though. Only my guess with the first Speed counting 10% of the maximum capacity is a logic error.
So the 480m³/h PK Industry Line filter would work safe on Level 1 up to Level 6.

I used to need about 180m³/h up to 240m³/h with a PK AC Fan for my current box.
So I think it will be more than enough capacity to extend my room and even connect a 2nd chamber.
So I will keep the "big" one, as I got it for only 80€.

With a little logic the First speed setting can be guessed, as it must to have ~25% of 683 m³/h to establish the function of the stockfilter from AC Infinity.
SO next time I will think first :)
 

Mastermind23

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I did not even remember, why I thought every step would be +10 %.
So the 480m³/h PK Industry Line filter would work safe on Level 1 up to Level 6.

I used to need about 180m³/h up to 240m³/h with a PK AC Fan for my current box.
So I think it will be more than enough capacity to extend my room and even connect a 2nd chamber.
So I will keep the "big" one, as I got it for only 80€.

With a little logic the First speed setting can be guessed, as it must have ~25% of 683 m³/h to establish the function of the stockfilter from AC Infinity.
 

Mastermind23

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The box has to be sealed because inside is a lot of negative pressure to suck air through the filter. I use 10” x 20” 3M 1900 filters, which collect a lot of dust and dawg hairs, and most importantly prevent spider mites and maybe mold. This was the change that really improved my plants.
I am also planning to install an inlet air filter: I will order F7-Filtermats, which can Filter most pm 2.5 particles as well. Even some smaller aerosols will be filtered and almost all kind of molds. I know the F7-Filters restricts the airflow more than G4-Filter(the ones, tha are used to protect active carbon filters)

Anyone has used F7 Filters and can say how much bigger I have to choose the inletair without active inlet ventilation ?
 

Neferhotep

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A serious filter seller knows the pressure drop of their filter materials.
You might want to make a box with the filter folded in in a W shape to make a large surface area.
 
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Ca++

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Most EC fans will run at 10%, so I'm not sure why the 67 controller I tested, started at 24%. I guess it's to not under-run the filter. If you draw air through real slow, it will slip through the gaps. You do need some speed, just for some turbulence, and to make some air actually want to choose a route through the pores, not just around the chunks.

I can't see your filter, or any specs of others they sell, regarding pressure drop charts or the minimum capacity I got excited about.
Roughly, If it's a 480 filter, you want to run at 300, you will need a 600 fan. That 600 will slow to 300 when you stick a filter on it. When using a fan with about twice the static pressure of the filters static losses. Which is typical of a TT fan and appropriate filter.

I notice your filter is big and the filter bed thin, so it will breathe better. Maybe a 450 fan would be more appropriate. It's hard to say, when they just want to sell us stuff, without proper figures.
 

growsjoe1

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I am also planning to install an inlet air filter: I will order F7-Filtermats, which can Filter most pm 2.5 particles as well. Even some smaller aerosols will be filtered and almost all kind of molds. I know the F7-Filters restricts the airflow more than G4-Filter(the ones, tha are used to protect active carbon filters)

Anyone has used F7 Filters and can say how much bigger I have to choose the inletair without active inlet ventilation ?

You can easily make an intake filter box cheaply.

If not having the time to make one or cash isn't a issue AC infinity sells one in the size that will fit your tent.


I'm in a 4x4 tent and use the 6" option

I use a filter sold as 12x20x1 inch filter but has an actual size of around 11.68"L x 19.68"W x 0.75'' so it fits the enclosure. Some filters are the size stated In any case smaller than the 12x20. Iuse a MERV13 ( Minimum Efficiency Reporting Value) filter, capture microscopic particles ranging from 0.3 and 10 microns (µm).

Good luck with your grow.
Attention to the details...commendable.

Sorry dimensions aren't in metrics...dumb American here.
 
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leijonanharja

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I made a calculator for grow room ventilation — check it out!

Here are its key features:
  • Dual Tab Interface: Easily switch between the Calculator and Usage Instructions for a seamless experience.
  • Unit System Selection: Choose between SI Units (m, °C, m³/h) and US Customary Units (ft, °F, CFM) to match your measurement preferences.
  • Comprehensive Input Fields: Enter essential values such as light power, room dimensions, intake and target temperatures, and optionally, duct parameters (duct diameter, duct length, and number of 90° bends).
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  • Advanced Calculations:
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    • If duct parameters are provided, it computes the required fan airflow to overcome duct losses and displays the total pressure drop along with loss percentage.
    • Determines the adjusted target temperature and the air changes per hour (ACH).
 
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