VEG/YIELD

[steve green]

i was wondering if anyone can share there experiences with vegging the plants longer and getting higher yields... or is it not worth it?....
topping , lst, ..any methods for longer veg... just wondering if it will give more yield worth the extra veg time?

 

[Guest]

veg longer...i can pull more off 5 plants than most do 15...and i only have 5 ft of height to work with...on average a quarter pound per...if i had more light it would be more...in other words i can take a kali-mist clone with 3 days veg...flower it and get 2 ounces...i can veg the same clone for two weeks and get a quarter pound plus off of it...i would rather go before the judge with 5 plants...take a look in my gallery for lst ideas and making them fit

 

[steve green]

thnx for the quick reply Unicorn,,,i got 6 ft to work,(cab grow) with six unsexed plants i think i will be happy if i get 2 females to attempt to grow big....
do u top? lst? i wonder if i veg'd for 2+ months????...hmmmm?

anybody out there with ideas..., thoughts..?

 

[kooki]

Well one thing i know is that from seed the plant takes time to mature..many pop plants in early i think , i have myself. I prefer alonger vegged plant for maturity and its growth, the more grow tips the more buds in the end it is that simple , with clones then sure u have maturity from the length of time mom was vegged it was vegged so on, but to get end bud u still need a good veg time to get those growth tips going..

I normally do small grows , and try utilise space using lst.. which i find helps that veg growth, but still prefer a long veg, to get lots of future bud sites, i use small lights so i dont grow big buds , so i feel i need to make lots of budsites to make up for this.. with larger lights same thing applies but u can grow bigger buds of course its important to have big enough pots if soil grown. to get a good root system to grow those tips and eventually those buds so its a case of a little trial and error to fully gauge a veggin amount to be able to flower in space u have.
From seed i advise most to veg long, in fact veg long n take cuttings also, u prob find after a few runs that potency can increase to the plants kinda limit as it where, when dealin with clones that are mature i say veg long as u need to get that space filled up which takes some trial but is well worth in long run...

 

[Guest]

they say a picture is worth a thousand words..if so..heres 20,000 thousands words

 

[steve green]

ok Unicorn u and that creature gotta calm down...those pics deffinetly have alot to say ,,im drooling over here ... u must be able to get many MANY cuttlings from that if needed..,,

i know you dont grow big buds Kooki ..but i LOVE BIG BUDS...and love to grow them...very good overlooked point of how from seed takes much longer to mature. I know ive overlooked that in the past when not dealing with clones.

anybody know if regular xmas tree growth, vegged for extended lengths without any lst or topping would give a bigger yield in the end ? and once again ..would it be worth doing?

 

[Guest]

every equation is different...unless i was the mathematician i couldnt say

 

[kooki]

with big enough lights pots and enough time to veg u gonna get more in my opinion.. but using techniques like lst help maximise also imo , big lights or not.. nice nice pics uni

 

[steve green]

what do u guys think about extra veg time just to grow 1 fat cola per plant?.. is that still considered sea of green,, i dont think so but.. ..i might be wrong.

 

[betterboy]

A single cola is the best way to go, or at least top cola's which might be 2 or maybe 3 cola's.
I've grown sog for years, I've also watched people on fourms grow pop corn buds and tell that they got 2- 0's per plant or a QP per plant, bull shit! be realistic, I get so tired of people building newbys hopes their gonna get all this weight.
Light dont pennatrate deep enough to fatten underside buds.
If plant numbers are a problem then ya dont wanna do a sog grow,With a sog grow proper veg time is important, but a bushy plant in a sog just wont produce those rock hard buds everyone wants.
I've done 81 plants in a 4'x4' F&D table with no veg time, 14 days to root then on the table right in to 12/12, got 81 christmas trees, weight was a so-so grow, Now I grow with 49 plants in the 4'x4' table and 2 weeks for rooting plants then 2 weeks for veg time. I trim up the plants to the top 3 nodes 1 week before I start 12/12 then retrim again 1 week after the start of 12/12, after that first week of 12/12 do not trim again.
Avoid stressing your plants watch your nutes and ph. for the most part you'll end up with 16" -20" single colas. one other thing that it takes to make these rock hard colas is plenty of light, my target is 100 watts per square foot. I'm running 4'x7' table with 97 plants and it produces consistant 76-77 0's of nicely dried bud.

 

[Guest]

my light penetrates al the way to what you mite consider popcorn on yours but not mine...
if your plants can stand on there own at the end...they are not heavy
quarter pounder



5 ounces




2 ounces

 

[steve green]

hmmm one nice 14 gram bug on each min..,is what i want..ithink..even though Unicorn by all of your pics u made me start lsting them lol .so i dont know if i should continue tying them down ,or will that not allow me to get HuGe colas???...what are some of the heaviest single colas you guys have grown with extended veg....?

thnx for all the info everyone...

 

[betterboy]

where ya show the jug and 2 oz., maybe wet weight, not dry, My gallery will speak for its self and Im not saying I dont have any bad grows, and im not saying yours is a bad grow! Im saying give dry weights





ownly a few of these buds weighed over 1 oz. dried and their not fluffy buds at all. Guess I could have said some weighed 3 oz.s but why, fact is there was ownly a few out of that grow that weighed out bout 32 grams, but I filled to the top 2 grocery bags.
I like sog grows, dont matter if its in dirt or hydro good results can be abtained, and with my strains I like to veg for 2 weeks

 

[Guest]

dude i dont lie...thanks for the insinuations though...the weights are dry weight...the main cola shot with the milk jug is not the whole plant
my gallery speaks for itself too guy

where ya show the jug and 2 oz., maybe wet weight, not dry, My gallery will speak for its self and Im not saying I dont have any bad grows, and im not saying yours is a bad grow! Im saying give dry weights





ownly a few of these buds weighed over 1 oz. dried and their not fluffy buds at all. Guess I could have said some weighed 3 oz.s but why, fact is there was ownly a few out of that grow that weighed out bout 32 grams, but I filled to the top 2 grocery bags.
I like sog grows, dont matter if its in dirt or hydro good results can be abtained, and with my strains I like to veg for 2 weeks

 

[Guest]

you can believe what you want the plant in question was actually a little heavier than 2 ounces dry...none of my buds are fluffy not even the kali-mist that is in the previous five ounce shot...the beer in the white widow x boggle gum picture is 16 fluid ounces not 12...
bold statements want to play..i got a whole lot of pictures not in my gallery as i am sure you do...even with your c02 i will gladly compare weights with you and your sea of green...now how does it feel to be disrespected like you have me...i will gladly continue if you do

 

[betterboy]

5 oz? sure i believe,
but it is a nice bud unicorn

 

[Guest]

this is a 5 ounce plant...why is that so hard to believe..its reality son...i got nothing to prove to you but if you think 5 ounces on one plant is something to rite home about well lets just say stop growing little plants and you will stop getting little yields..

 

[Guest]

its my favorite its kali-mist...thread starter no disrespect to you my friend...i just dont like being called a liar..sorry about all the pics..any more questions...on my opinion...shoot

5 oz? sure i believe,
but it is a nice bud unicorn

 

[mysta177]

SCROG.When the screen fills flower!

 

[steve green]

easy boys,, im sure both of u are capable of producing bomb ass weed, this is not a competition, just wanted to see some dry yield weight averages...and figure out ways if any about extended veg time to produce bigger yields..(pref big fat buds though lol) all these pics are mouth watering...unicorn how much does one of those big colas weigh dry if u picked the biggest....and those are from l.s.t?.....