Vaccinations: Good, Bad or Just Plain Ugly

[Harry Gypsna]

Vaccination Causes Autism – Say US Government & Merck’s Director of Vaccines

Posted on June 30, 2010 by ChildHealthSafety
A New Scientist article 29 June 2010 by Jim Giles states:-

We still do not know what causes autism.“
Desperate measures: The lure of an autism cure
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That is not correct. Here we set out four ways autistic conditions are caused and confirmed by statements from the current President of pharmaceutical giant Merck’s Vaccines Division, by US Government agencies, by the US Federal Court and in formally published academic journal papers.
If you read nothing else we strongly recommend you read this PDF Download – Text of May 5th 2008 email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News]. In it the US Health Resources Services Administration [HRSA] state to CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson

We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.” [Text added 10 April 2011]
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The first known cause of autism was rubella virus. So not only is New Scientist an unreliable source of information, this cause of autism has been known since the 1960s. And rubella virus is one of the three live viruses in the MMR vaccine.

… rubella (congenital rubella syndrome) is one of the few proven causes of autism.“ Walter A. Orenstein, M.D. US as Assistant Surgeon General, Director National Immunization Program in a letter to the UK’s Chief Medical Officer 15 February 2002.
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rubella virus is one of the few known causes of autism.” US Center for Disease Control.
“FAQs (frequently asked questions) about MMR Vaccine & Autism” [ED 8/Apr/12: This is the web archive of the CDC page - you will need to search in or scroll down the page to see the text. As papers cited on the original page by the CDC as evidence for no link with the vaccine have been steadily discredited it seems the CDC has decided to remove the page and it seems someone has been deleting the archived versions of the page from the web archive too].
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rubella can cause autism” The Pediatrician’s Role in the Diagnosis and Management of Autistic Spectrum Disorder in Children – PEDIATRICS Vol. 107 No. 5 May 2001
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Journal references:

Chess, S. Autism in children with congenital rubella. J Autism Child Schizophr. 1, 33-47 (1971).
Chess S. Follow-up report on autism in congenital rubella. J Autism Child Schizophr. 1977;7:69 –81
Ziring PR. Congenital rubella: the teenage years. Pediatr Ann. 1997;6: 762–770
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People who are pre-disposed to have a mitochondrial dysfunction can develop autistic conditions following vaccination. The current President of Merck’s Vaccines Division, Julie Gerberding confirmed to CBS News when she was Director of the US Centres for Disease Control that:

….. if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.“
HOUSE CALL WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA – Unraveling the Mystery of Autism; Talking With the CDC Director; Stories of Children with Autism; Aging with Autism – Aired March 29, 2008 – 08:30 ET
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Mitochondrial dysfunction is claimed to be “rare” but is not. It can apply to a minimum of 20% of cases.
And this was said when Gerberding was then head of the US Centres for Disease Control – budget US$11 billion. It followed from award winning author and journalist David Kirby breaking the story of the Hannah Poling case, secretly settled by the US Government. It was after this story broke that it started to be acknowledged that autism has an “environmental” cause and is not solely an “internal” condition [ie not determined solely by genetics]: AUTISM – US Court Decisions and Other Recent Developments – It’s Not Just MMR
[Gerberding went from the US agency charged with promoting vaccines [CDC] directly to become vaccine maker Merck’s Director of Vaccines Division: Dr. Julie Gerberding Named President of Merck Vaccines – 21 Dec 2009 – Merck & Co., Inc.
Autistic conditions can result from encephalopathy following vaccination. The US Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) confirmed to CBS News that of 1322 cases of vaccine injury compensation settled out of court by the US Government in secret settlements:-

We have compensated cases in which children exhibited an encephalopathy, or general brain disease. Encephalopathy may be accompanied by a medical progression of an array of symptoms including autistic behavior, autism, or seizures.” [PDF Download - Text of email from US HRSA to Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News]
CBS News Exclusive: Leading Dr.: Vaccines-Autism Worth Study Former Head Of NIH Says Government Too Quick To Dismiss Possible Link – WASHINGTON, May 12, 2008
Vaccine Case: An Exception Or A Precedent? – First Family To Have Autism-Related Case “Conceded” Is Just One Of Thousands – CBS News By Sharyl Attkisson WASHINGTON, March 6, 2008
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Measles and mumps are two of the three live viruses in the MMR vaccine. Exposure to live measles or mumps viruses can cause encephalitis:-

measles and mumps can cause significant disability, including encephalitis“
The Pediatrician’s Role in the Diagnosis and Management of Autistic Spectrum Disorder in Children – PEDIATRICS Vol. 107 No. 5 May 2001
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So there is direct evidence that live measles, mumps or rubella viruses separately can cause encephalitis leading to autism.
More troubling is that this has been known for a long time. So the risks of giving very young children a vaccine containing three live viruses all at once were known. These two World Health Organisation papers published nearly 40 years ago set out the hazards:

Virus-associated immunopathology : animal models and implications for human disease”:
1. Effects of viruses on the immune system, immune-complex diseases, and antibody-mediated immunologic injuryBulletin of The World Health Organisation. 1972; 47(2): 257-264.
2. Cell-mediated immunity, autoimmune diseases, genetics, and implications for clinical researchBulletin of the World Health Organisation. 1972; 47(2): 265-274.
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Autistic conditions can result from acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) following MMR vaccination as held by the US Federal Court in the case of Bailey Banks. In his conclusion, US Federal Court Special Master Abell ruled that Petitioners had proven that the MMR had directly caused a brain inflammation illness called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM) which, in turn, had caused the autism spectrum disorder PDD-NOS in the child:

The Court found that Bailey’s ADEM was both caused-in-fact and proximately caused by his vaccination. It is well-understood that the vaccination at issue can cause ADEM, and the Court found, based upon a full reading and hearing of the pertinent facts in this case, that it did actually cause the ADEM. Furthermore, Bailey’s ADEM was severe enough to cause lasting, residual damage, and retarded his developmental progress, which fits under the generalized heading of Pervasive Developmental Delay, or PDD [an autism spectrum disorder]. The Court found that Bailey would not have suffered this delay but for the administration of the MMR vaccine, and that this chain of causation was… a proximate sequence of cause and effect leading inexorably from vaccination to Pervasive Developmental Delay.
[Banks v. HHS (Case 02-0738V, 2007 U.S. Claims LEXIS 254, July 20, 2007)].
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And what does not cause autism?

Autism is not “caused” by “genes”

Dr Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. the 16th and current Director of the US$30.5 billion budget National Institutes of Health [nominated by President Obama: NIH News Release 17th August 2009 ] stated in evidence to US House of Representatives Committee May 2006 when Director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute:

“Recent increases in chronic diseases like diabetes, childhood asthma, obesity or autism cannot be due to major shifts in the human gene pool as those changes take much more time to occur. They must be due to changes in the environment, including diet and physical activity, which may produce disease in genetically predisposed persons.“
Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. evidence to US House of Representatives Committee May 2006
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Collins controls the US $30.5 billion annual medical research budget and is a leading medical doctor and geneticist who led the Human Genome Project.
Autistic conditions affect 1 in 100 US children. They affect 1 in 64 British children [1 in 40 are boys] according to a Cambridge University study.

ESTIMATING AUTISM SPECTRUM PREVALENCE IN THE POPULATION: A SCHOOL BASED STUDY FROM THE UK
Conclusions: The prevalence estimate of known cases of ASC, using different methods of ascertainment converges around 1%. The ratio of known to unknown cases means that for every three known cases there are another two unknown cases. This has implications for planning diagnostic, social and health services.”
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It is estimated to cost the UK £28 billion per annum [roughly US$42 billion]: ["Economic Consequences of Autism in the UK" - London School of Economics - Study by team led by Professor Martin Knapp [Executive Summary]



http://childhealthsafety.wordpress....y-us-government-merck’s-director-of vaccines/

will this do?

Frankly, no. A link to a blog, where the blogger selects certain sentences and adds his own interpretation or straight up twists what has been said is not a study in a mainstream journal. I'm talking about things like the BMJ.

What part of Andrew Wakefield was full of shit, is so hard to understand. He wasn't even against Vaccines, he just wanted to pimp his own.

 

[harold]

have you heard of a silicon (crystal) chip? your very probably close to one now, part of your computer memory is made from it. Crystals store information, water is a liquid crystal. Powerful microscopes have proven that water is effected by frequency and will arrange and hold onto information. Sorry i know you dont think much of crystals.

A well made vaccination (without all the other added shit making people sick in there) is like homeopathy, you take a tiny amount of something, its frequency is imparted to the medium, the frequency then becomes a part of the whole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...sts-store-data-powerful-glass-hard-drive.html

 

[Green lung]

have you heard of a silicon (crystal) chip? your very probably close to one now, part of your computer memory is made from it. Crystals store information, water is a liquid crystal. Powerful microscopes have proven that water is effected by frequency and will arrange and hold onto information. Sorry i know you dont think much of crystals.

A well made vaccination (without all the other added shit making people sick in there) is like homeopathy, you take a tiny amount of something, its frequency is imparted to the medium, the frequency then becomes a part of the whole.

frequency imparted in the medium, part of the whole, magic crystals huh

You really expect me to believe that gobbly gook bullshit lol




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[Harry Gypsna]

have you heard of a silicon (crystal) chip? your very probably close to one now, part of your computer memory is made from it. Crystals store information, water is a liquid crystal. Powerful microscopes have proven that water is effected by frequency and will arrange and hold onto information. Sorry i know you dont think much of crystals.

A well made vaccination (without all the other added shit making people sick in there) is like homeopathy, you take a tiny amount of something, its frequency is imparted to the medium, the frequency then becomes a part of the whole.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...sts-store-data-powerful-glass-hard-drive.html

Crystals are great, I've got a bunch of them. The sunlight does wonderful things when it hits them through the window. I just don't think holding them is going to cure disease, based on the fact that they never, ever, even once been shown under controlled conditions, to do so.

Water is not a liquid crystal. Ice crystals form at low temp. Crystallisation is the process by which the liquid form of water becomes the solid form. Is steam a crystal vapour/gaseous crystal?

 

[harold]

how do you think medicine works, your ingesting the frequency of that compound.
no water doesnt have to be a physical shard crystal to hold information. Think of the massive amount of detailed info your silicon hard drive crystal holds, it doesnt seem logical does it? but it works.

You really expect me to believe that gobbly gook bullshit lol

no i dont actually most people are incredibly narrow minded.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

how do you think medicine works, your ingesting the frequency of that compound.
no water doesnt have to be a physical shard crystal to hold information. Think of the massive amount of detailed info your silicon hard drive crystal holds, it doesnt seem logical does it? but it works.



no i dont actually most people are incredibly narrow minded.

A Silicon chip, is a man made device. We have to manipulate the silcon and arrange it in a specific manner for it to be a store of information. A bucket of sand on the beach is silica, but you won't be able to store your photo albums on it. It's very like a Vinyl LP. A lump of PVC isn't much use as a recording medium until you manufacture it in a specific form.

The way medicines work is nothing to do with frequencies. Medicine stimulate/stop physical things happening in the body on a biological level. Opiate painkillers work by plugging into your natural opiate receptors, suppressing neurochemicals which in turn dims the connection between your nerves and your brain. Nothing to do with frequencies.
My mind is open, to evidence produced under scientifically controlled conditions, with results that can be repeated.

Like Micheal Shermer says, an open mind is a good thing, but try not to keep it so open that your brain falls out.

Trying to impose this frequency thing onto real medicine to equate it with woo does not make the woo legit.

 

[Banefoul]

Why did they create the vaccine court? What have they paid out on? Why have other courts, not from police state america find vaccines cause harm?

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Why did they create the vaccine court? What have they paid out on? Why have other courts, not from police state america find vaccines cause harm?

Vaccine court, never heard of it, but assuming it exists, name one area in which humans produce something, where things don't go wrong.
Courts in other countries finding that vaccines cause harm, Vaccines can cause harm in some people (So can Aspirin and Penicillin), nobody ever said otherwise. What they don't do, is cause autism, according to the current scientific evidence..

 

[Banefoul]

Courts quietly confirm MMR Vaccine causes Autism
July 27, 2013. Austin. After decades of passionate debate, parents probably missed the repeated admissions by drug companies and governments alike that vaccines do in fact cause autism. For concerned parents seeking the truth, it’s worth remembering that the exact same people who own the world’s drug companies also own America’s news outlets.
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/courts-quietly-confirm-mmr-vaccine-causes-autism/

The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as "vaccine court," has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for "pain and suffering" and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars.

The government did not admit that vaccines caused autism, at least in one of the children. Both cases were "unpublished," meaning information is limited, and access to medical records and other exhibits is blocked. Much of the information presented here comes from documents found at the vaccine court website.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/post2468343_b_2468343.html


Italian Court’s judgement:

The medicolegal and auxilary medicolegal assessments must be conducted according to their merits, which, on the basis of an in depth examination of the case in the light of the specialist literature to date, has conclusively established that the young child is suffering from AUTISTIC DISORDER ASSOCIATED WITH MEDIUM COGNITIVE DELAY ascribed with reasonable scientific probability due to the administration of the vaccine MMR occurring on the date 26\3\2004 at the ALS of Riccione

It should also be acknowledged that the auxiliary evaluation pursuant to the Medical Commission has expressed the view that there is a permanent impairment of physical and mental integrity established, ascribed to the first category of Table A, attached to the DPR 30 \ 12 \ 81 n.834.
http://markcrispinmiller.com/2012/0...ruling-that-mmr-vaccine-caused-childs-autism/


now.. the thing is you can either accept that the FDA.. the same company that said cannabis will kill you, make you rape murder and go nuts.. knows what they are talking about or not.

 

[harold]

ok harry please take your free flu shot, drink your fluoride, eat your gmo's and while your at it please send them your grow addy and a few plant pics and see how your government responds, their our trusted friend after all.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

ok harry please take your free flu shot, drink your fluoride, eat your gmo's and while your at it please send them your grow addy and a few plant pics and see how your government responds, their our trusted friend after all.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ I'm asleep right? How utterly predictable. The same kind of response given by Zeitgeist believers, and David Icke/Alex Jones fans.
Never had a flu jab either, like I say, the healthy should leave them for the at risk groups.

Banefoul, I'm, going to have a look at what you've posted, and have a look around for more info and will reserve judgement for now. That's the thing about being rational, you show me some good conclusive evidence and I'll turn on a sixpence so fast that I melt a hole in my shoe.

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OK The Vaccine court judgements, the parents were compensated for the encephalopathy, the court has not ruled that the vaccines caused autism, because.........there is no evidence for that. Brain damage caused by fevers/seizures, resulting in symptoms with similar characteristics to
certain autistic spectrum disorders, are not autism. This is complicated further by the ever widening definition of autistic/autistic spectrum disorder, and what is/is not one of these things.

 

[HUGE]

ok so
vaccines dont cause autism
courts pay families moneys for their child getting autism from vaccines.
cdc adverse reaction list includes autism spectrum symptoms like starring, lowerd consciousness, seizure, etc..
but remember folks vaccines dont cause autism. just symptoms that resemble autism.

 

[HUGE]

NIST-"no evidince of explosives was found at the world trade center."
congress-"did you look for explosive evidence?"
NIST-"no"

hey I found 500,000 bigfoot tracks.
those arent bigfoot tracks.
how do you know did you look at them?
I dont need to bigfoot doesnt exist.


hey doc my kid seems to be acting autistic after those last shots.
no way, your kid is just fine.
how do yoi know?
because vaccines dont cause autism.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

ok so
vaccines dont cause autism
courts pay families moneys for their child getting autism from vaccines.
cdc adverse reaction list includes autism spectrum symptoms like starring, lowerd consciousness, seizure, etc..
but remember folks vaccines dont cause autism. just symptoms that resemble autism.

What is so unbelievable about one problem causing symptoms that look like another. There are many illness with similar symptoms, that's why doctors run tests to figure out which out of a range of possible illnesses, is actually the problem. Brain tumors can cause all sorts of symptoms which are similar to other illnesses, my Mum died from one. She woke up one morning with no movement down one side, they thought she'd had a stroke, then they decided she was epileptic, then MS, all based on a brain tumor causing symptoms of these other problems, which as it turned out, she had none.

 

[HUGE]

you are missing the point.
autism is defined by the symptoms, science has no cause, no pathogen to attribute the symptoms to. a child is displaying odd behavior and thus diagnosed with autism. vaccines are proven to cause symptoms that resemble autism. but remember vaccines dont cause autism.

What is so unbelievable about one problem causing symptoms that look like another. There are many illness with similar symptoms, that's why doctors run tests to figure out which out of a range of possible illnesses, is actually the problem. Brain tumors can cause all sorts of symptoms which are similar to other illnesses, my Mum died from one. She woke up one morning with no movement down one side, they thought she'd had a stroke, then they decided she was epileptic, then MS, all based on a brain tumor causing symptoms of these other problems, which as it turned out, she had none.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

you are missing the point.
autism is defined by the symptoms, science has no cause, no pathogen to attribute the symptoms to. a child is displaying odd behavior and thus diagnosed with autism. vaccines are proven to cause symptoms that resemble autism. but remember vaccines dont cause autism.

Autism is a very specific developmental disorder. If you look at the dsm, having symptoms consistent with Autism/Autistic Spectrum Disorders does not mean that the child is Autistic. Autism is not solely defined by the symptoms, there are other factors which have to be taken into consideration and have to be demonstrated or ruled out.

Another thing to point out is that court decisions are not science, and are not infallible. The US supreme court decided that a corporation is a person and that using sniffer dogs is legit even in light of the fact of how unreliable they are FFS

 

[k-s-p]

Autism generally runs in families. I'm not sure how to ascribe that to immunization.

 

[HUGE]

wrong. kust plain wrong.
autism=autism spectrum=not so specific.
just look up "how is autism diagnosed".

Autism is a very specific developmental disorder. If you look at the dsm, having symptoms consistent with Autism/Autistic Spectrum Disorders does not mean that the child is Autistic. Autism is not solely defined by the symptoms, there are other factors which have to be taken into consideration and have to be demonstrated or ruled out.

Another thing to point out is that court decisions are not science, and are not infallible. The US supreme court decided that a corporation is a person and that using sniffer dogs is legit even in light of the fact of how unreliable they are FFS

 

[TheCleanGame]

You cannot UN-Vaccinate your child.

Think about it.


Keep it Clean!

 

[harold]

Autism generally runs in families. I'm not sure how to ascribe that to immunization.

from the thimerosal, is an organomercury compound.