Using urine as nuits

[NiteTiger]

Hey nobodyknew, just for the record, looks like you've got a great nute setup going there, and you're right, there's absolutely no reason to switch from that to urine. I don't think anyone is saying that urine is better than what you have.

Just saying that for those that can't replicate that ideal for whatever reason, urine is a fantastic fert.

It's safe, easy to use, cheap, and very effective.

No reason to get all pissy about it

 

[NiteTiger]

Sigh..........................I've never been that broke and I'm sure you weren't either............
BUT
Knock yaselves out - piss up the walls even - grab that fat indica leaf and wipe ya arse with it - why stop at piss
As long as we're all going to be disgusting bastards - why not jump in the deep end - oh wait - we're there already...............

Well, assumption is the mother of all fuckup Nobodyknew, and you're dead wrong. I most certainly was that broke. Not everyone can afford to go out and drop $30-$40 bucks for nutes at any given time.

Disgusting is a matter of opinion. I personally think concentrated fish and bat shit is pretty fucking nasty, but you don't see me out there insulting growers who use them. Some folks find chemicals nasty and disgusting, it's a matter of preference.

 

[nobodyknew]

What do you do tho when you hit flowering and nitrogen per se is no longer required to the degree it is used in veg - in fact a definite hindrance to flowering if you have too much....
What are you going to do then - keep pissing....?
Or are you going to find - shit - $30-40 to buy some ferts - which for that money I can get both Part A and Part B in 5 litre containers of each....
You got enough right there for three grows at least - even with a HUGE res
Average it out there tiger and nobody's that broke - especially after the first two grows....
I hope I don't sound like I'm pissy (sic) about it - just disappointed at the whole idea - but if I do sound pissy about it then deep down - I guess I am - and that's just the way it comes out....
I don't use fish or bat shit either - but I would use them before I would piss in anything.
If I was in a desert with no water I would not hesitate to drink my own piss to stay alive - wouldn't hesitate at all
But that is what it would take to get me to do that
Piss weed - to each his own - but you'll never be busting me with piss weed

 

[NiteTiger]

Actually, my girl was in flowering when piss saved her. There are many more nutes in urine than just Nitrogen.

And yes, people ARE that broke. Back in rough times, I could feed my family of four with $15 for 3 days. $30 would get us to the next paycheck. So yeah, in times like that, going and buying ferts for a hobby - I don't care if it was $1.50 - would be insane. That didn't mean I was willing to let my girl die. So I did what I had to do.

The pissy comment was a tounge in cheek pun, all in fun

Also, notice what you said - '...nobody's that broke - especially after the first two grows..."

Pot does not = money. It can, but it is not a given. I'd have a tough time turning pot to cash even if I wanted to cross that line.

And bro - pee weed or not, I hope ya never get busted

 

[nobodyknew]

Thanks tiger......
I guess I should explain - I've been a muso all my working life - over 30 years - and sometimes I forget not everybody leads the same kind of lives

If you're ever out surfing and short on piss this pic would help you along some

 

[NiteTiger]

A 'muso'? Unfamiliar term for me.

And holy crap, yeah, that pic would get the juices flowing if I happened to be anywhere within about 25 miles of that beach

 

[nobodyknew]

Sorry dude - a musician

 

[NiteTiger]

Ah, well don't I feel silly, considering I live in a Music town I wondered if that's what you meant about a nanosecond after I hit the submit button LOL

 

[strain_searcher]

Not to knock anyone but the reason I came here to icmag was to avoid the piss in your plant talks at overgrow.

 

[NiteTiger]

Not to knock anyone but the reason I came here to icmag was to avoid the piss in your plant talks at overgrow.

So you came to a grower's site to avoid growing discussion?

Odd.

 

[mpro]

nitetiger: I think i'm going to do that today. my bagseeds are suffering from N loss, and I don't want to use my nova on them. 1/10 mixture in water, then just water them, eh.

firstavailable: Thanks for the good information. I actually was thinking about this very thing this morning, and then found this thread.

 

[Guest]

THIS is a well-balanced nute regime.......blended by the makers specifically for cannabis - not tomatoes or rose bushes and so on and so forth....and refined over a number of years - by qualified chemists no less...


Growth Technology..... 2 Part Veg regime
..................................................Part A...........Part B
Nitrogen(as nitrate).........................3.66.............0.90
Nitrogen(as ammonium).....................0.25............0.00
Nitrogen(as TOTAL nitrogen)..............3.91............0.90....<-----
Phosphorous(water soluble)...............0.00.............0.80
Potassium(as nitrate).......................2.50.............2.50
Potassium(as phosphate)..................0.00.............1.00
Potassium(as TOTAL Potassium).........2.50.............3.50
Calcium(as nitrate)..........................3.60..............0.00
Sulphur(as sulphate)........................0.00..............2.00
Magnesium(as sulphate)...................0.00..............1.50
Iron(as EDTA chelate)......................0.10..............0.00
Manganese(as EDTA chelate)............0.00..............0.02
Zinc(as EDTA chelate).....................0.00..............0.004 - not a typo
Copper(as EDTA chelate)..................0.00.............0.003
Boron(as Borax)..............................0.00..............0.007
Molybdenum(as sodium molybdate).....0.00..............0.001
Water..........................................85.10............87.20

Now that is a well-balanced veg phase nute regime.....
Are you seriously suggesting you piss all that in those quantities - cos if you are I suggest you reconsider your position cos you'd just be jiving the people...

Research and chemists can only do so much... Why do you think people use medical marijuana instead? I personally trust marijuana more than cannabrex or any of that shit... And i trust MJ more than opiates and all that shit cancer patients get for sure!

The problem with chemists... Is that they understand how everything works, or at least make an effort... But at the same time they try to make un natural solutions to probelms using chemicals... Trust me organic pot grown in soil the same strain will be nicer than your chemical hydro. And better for you too!

 

[strain_searcher]

So you came to a grower's site to avoid growing discussion?

Odd.

I said to avoid pissing in your plant discussions. may want to re-read post

 

[NiteTiger]

No, I read it just fine.

I'm just curious why you'd come to a growers forum to avoid discussions about growing?
Noone here is talking about pissing in your plants, they're talking about using urine as fertilizer - applied in the exact same manner as any other fertilizer.

So, either you didn't bother to read the thread, or we're back to coming to a growers forum to avoid growing diuscussions?

So yeah, I'm curious as to which it is.

 

[GreatLakes THC]

This has been a pretty informative thread and you guys sound like you have your shit together and your piss straight, but this is beginning to sound more like a growing fetish. In which case this might be better suited for the toker's den forum. Keeping this on topic though. I don't personally think I could get over the gross/yuck factor. That's just me.

GreatLakes THC

 

[Sinfuldreams]

This has been a pretty informative thread and you guys sound like you have your shit together and your piss straight, but this is beginning to sound more like a growing fetish. In which case this might be better suited for the toker's den forum. Keeping this on topic though. I don't personally think I could get over the gross/yuck factor. That's just me.

GreatLakes THC

Wuss
Sin

 

[GreatLakes THC]

Badump Ching!

lol... Howsit Sin?

GreatLakes THC

 

[Guest]

shit,, i mean piss,,, lmao... this tread was started as a joke based upon the reality of using urine as N with 0rganic teas and such,,,,someone asked me in the chatroom, whats the best way to add N without spending money.... so knowing that urine has been used as N in organic growing for thousands of years, i replyed piss in your nuits... then i started this thead......no one should directly piss on their plants,,,, but in the nuits as an organic solution for N is ok, and very old school....

hey,..it's easy to go broke quick these days,, if you get laid off, fired, injured, piss just might surfice ... u need N u got N,, just whip it out..

pages 1 & 2 of this thread hold very good infomation about urine as nuits...thanx to everyone for posting your input... that fact still remains the same,,, little piss and some guano, will go along way with little cost and fantastic resluts... so come on, don't knock it until u try it.

 

[strain_searcher]

No, I read it just fine.

I'm just curious why you'd come to a growers forum to avoid discussions about growing?
Noone here is talking about pissing in your plants, they're talking about using urine as fertilizer - applied in the exact same manner as any other fertilizer.

So, either you didn't bother to read the thread, or we're back to coming to a growers forum to avoid growing diuscussions?

So yeah, I'm curious as to which it is.

Im sorry, didnt mean to ruffle feathers. The way I see it is you can get BETTER results NOT using urine. .I doubt urine can get the same reults as my soil gets. But make sure to let the people know that you used urine in your plants before they smoke it. I wonder if snot has anything in it that could help in flower? I am almost 100% sure it does but out of repect for my friends who I share with I wont be using any.

 

[NiteTiger]

Nah man, I didn't get my feathers ruffled over wether to use urine or not. It's a good debate to have, and each view is valid, to an extent.

What did kinda bother me though was that your response seemed to indicate it wasn't a worthy discussion topic. Stifling discussion because your opinion differs is not a healthy environment for learning. I see tons of threads that are covered ad nauseum on other sites, and I may or may not agree with them, that doesn't mean that I should pop into them and imply the subject isn't worth discussion.

However, that's all behind us, as you have offered a valid point for debate now. And, though this may seem shocking, I agree with you

Sure, urine is not the end all be all of nutes, and a well balanced complete nute regimen of any kind is going to beat just urine. That doesn't mean it's not a good nutrient source for your plants. Urine is a great nute for first time growers, or those that prefer all natural sources of nutrients.

I find it interesting you think that people should be warned that weed was grown with urine. Do you also feel that growers using chemical nutes should warn users that it's grown with chemicals that can produce damage to the gastrointestinal system, blood system, skin and mucous membranes with repeated exposure? Or that, if inhaled, can lead to death?

Do you tell your friends that the weed from your garden is infested with worm and cow feces, which contain potentially deadly microbes and bacteria? Or that those that grow using guano should warn thier potential recipients that bat guano is highly toxic, and is mined by people that wear full bio-hazard gear and closed respiration system because it is so toxic?

Of course not. Why? Because all of these things are not being ingested in the final product. The plant breaks it down into basic organic compounds that it uses for fuel. The final product does not contain the nutes used in any recognizable form.

The same goes for urine. Weed grown with urine is no different than weed grown with any other nutrients. If you're going to claim urine is in the final product, then follow that logic through to your own nute regime, and see if it holds water, no pun intended .

It comes down to personal preference, just like any other nute formulation, and should be evaluated as such. People seeking information about it should not be ridiculed or treated like idiots.

Of course this is a public forum, and everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, and should be encouraged to share that opinion. But at least provide facts as well, so that a valid contribution to knowledge is made.