Using Honey

[JackTheGrower]

I thought to solicit the Organic folks on this.

I assume mixing Honey into a mix of Fish emulsion is not a harmful way to use honey.

I have read that there is a concern about the anti-biotic action of Honey. That it might kill microbes.

I'm thinking that adding it to fish emulsion will cause that anti-biotic action to work on anything in the fish.

From Wikipedia :

Liquid honey does not spoil. Because of its high sugar concentration, it kills most bacteria by crenation..

Are bacteria the same as our microbes?

If added to a mixture of fish emulsion would this effect of crenation actually be helpful?


I make a feeding with brewed coffee, fish, liquid kelp and whatever I feel I need to or want to.

I had an interesting experience last grow using honey and that was a fresh cut plant that smelled of watermelon.
This was the same F1's I have grown three years in a row. Not before did they smell like watermelon.
The result of this strain was a lime smell later after cure and the smoothest smoke I have experienced to date.

So I'd love to get your feed back organic people.

The only negative I can find on Honey is it kills most bacteria by crenation.

Perhaps diluted by first being introduced to fish emulsion the effect is a positive one?

Wikipedia also lists this

[edit] Hydrogen peroxide
Hydrogen peroxide in honey is activated by dilution. However, unlike medical hydrogen peroxide, commonly 3% by volume, it is present in a concentration of only 1 mmol/l in honey. Iron in honey oxidizes the oxygen free radicals released by the hydrogen peroxide.
glucose + H2O + O2 → gluconic acid + H2O2

Will this be a good thing in a mix?

 

[keeko]

i think unsulfered molassess would be better, but i dont have much experience on the subject just my two cents, im sure more people will be more helpful, good luck

 

[jaykush]

ive only used honey as a rooting gel. but if you say its anti-biotic that will probably kill the beneficial bacteria in the soil.

 

[JackTheGrower]

ive only used honey as a rooting gel. but if you say its anti-biotic that will probably kill the beneficial bacteria in the soil.

If I read wikipedia right pure honey in that form has that action.

I'm wondering if diluted that the effect abates?

 

[JackTheGrower]

i think unsulfered molassess would be better, but i dont have much experience on the subject just my two cents, im sure more people will be more helpful, good luck

I was thinking they are two different things.. Does that sound right to you?

 

[Dan42nepa]

i'll skip the honey and stick with the molasses

 

[keeko]

I was thinking they are two different things.. Does that sound right to you?

im not sure on how honey is made or actually anything about honey, but ive read about the molasses and have used it with pretty good results

 

[Jahminded]

Does everyone know wikipedia can be editing by anyone....I would seek support before drawing any conclusions from wikipedia.

 

[The Bling]

im not sure on how honey is made or actually anything about honey, but ive read about the molasses and have used it with pretty good results

sorry but have you heard of bees?

 

[JackTheGrower]

Alright thanks guys.

So far from reading here and on the web I havn't found any bad things about using it in a fert mix.

I admit I have not used molasses.

I'll keep an open mind and see what I can find

 

[Guest]

Here's a bad thing: honey is freaking ridiculously expensive. Molasses is $5 a gallon. You can use a tablespoon per gallon of molasses and not have to spend a fortune OR worry about the microbes.

I use molasses and it works well. Makes the buds swell with pistils.

 

[admiralcornport]

I've never heard anything about honey. Except that it is made by bees ofcourse! haha @ keeko

 

[JackTheGrower]

So then...

There is nothing Bad to report on Honey.

It's experienced that molasses has an effect on bloom.


I used honey with fish and had nothing bad happen.

So I keep my mind open..

Had a serious sweet plant last time that's why I ask. Was the first use of honey.

Thanks

 

[The Slickster]

You may just have something there as honey has attractive organic properties being that it is made by bees from the nectar of flowers. It could be a real particular flavor and smell enhancer. Seems reasonable as honey is a natural simple sugar, yet it also contains enzymes, vitamins, amino acids, and antioxidants. It's simple sugar profile is unique and may be used as a compliment to molasses. If used in the smallest diluted amounts (1 tsp per 5 gal) it should not be an issue for the beneficial bacteria.

Fructose: 38%
Glucose: 31%
Sucrose: 1%
Water: 17%
Other sugars: 9% (maltose, melezitose)
Ash: 0.17% (a natural form of PH up)

As filipmagno says that raw honey should not be used as it should be composted first in a manner that would make it useable like with molasses. Wonder about cooking it first and then adding to some E.J. Catalyst for the yeast.

 

[jaykush]

honey = rooting hormone end or story.

don't put honey in your tea's please.

 

[JackTheGrower]

honey = rooting hormone end or story.

don't put honey in your tea's please.

I have read about that.

There's a first negative I have read.

Is there any data on this I can read like a study?

Thanks

 

[keeko]

yea i have noticed a difference in the smell of my buds since i started adding a tbs of molasses per gallon.

p.s. hahahaha just for the record i know honey comes from bees.....i think i was having a stoner moment and meant to write it they add anything when they bottle it

 

[farmerjim]

Cool shit mang !

Cool shit mang !

I honestly think this is one of the cooler questions i have seen here. I have used molasses many times. I never even knew honey could be used for rooting clones either just knew it was a preservative for mushrooms. Makes perfect sense though.
I really cant wait to see your results. Please keep this thread going.

 

[Guest]

Honey seem a good idea I will get some orange blossem honey and see if it makes my grapefruit orange flavored. As far as antibiotic it would only apply in large concentrations You can add yeast and water to honey and produce booze ie.... mead. Its price is prohibitive.

 

[jaykush]

ok ok now if it is beneficial, what flowers do the bees have to get pollen from to make it ok. because i know if you eat any honey from bees around here you'll die or get real sick. they get pollen from this one plant local and if you ingest and part of it you get real real sick. ill look for some info on the honey in teas for you guys, im pretty sure its a no no. cant go wrong with molasses works super good.