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HemperorsKnight
Ken estes knock off gdp? Or the actual f1's or is it the cut flying around? Isn't the face off in reg form? I'm subbed for this project as well bruv
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useless.gardens
it's a clone called "ken's cut of gdp". you can ask DHN from where they got it.
face off, regs... yes.
face off, regs... yes.
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HemperorsKnight
Do you make your own reversing solution?
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useless.gardens
no sir. i buy cs pre-made. its a very consistent product. while i could make bunches if i made my own, $18 for 3.5oz i aint complaining.
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HemperorsKnight
That's a damn good price what are your objectives with reversing face off just curious
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useless.gardens
make some og infused things. make fems. make neat genetic combos that are stable, yield well, and make sexy flowerz.
now that i got great lake genetics spamming me every day. if swamp donkey seeds (LOL) can do it... so can i !
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lost the nl x skunks. dang. had to be me cause both seedlings looked like thats all they would ever be... stunted you could say.
took those same peat pucks & germ'd (hso) lost coast og.
1 came up & doing great. stoked.
hitting any and all fem freebies from ages ago. i put them into 2 groups. now. later.
love them for side action. plus you never know what you'll find.
dug up some cannaventure "flaming cookies" f2 from a friend. right into the working stash.
definitely gonna hit 5 of them soon. dude sent me a bunch of glass screens with the beans i use every day stll.
the nookies i grew in 5 gal garden container & 2x2 screen gonna put out some nuggets this round.
got them in 2 gals, one screen, one bush, to see whats what. best cooks strain so far for me.
took those same peat pucks & germ'd (hso) lost coast og.
1 came up & doing great. stoked.
hitting any and all fem freebies from ages ago. i put them into 2 groups. now. later.
love them for side action. plus you never know what you'll find.
dug up some cannaventure "flaming cookies" f2 from a friend. right into the working stash.
definitely gonna hit 5 of them soon. dude sent me a bunch of glass screens with the beans i use every day stll.
the nookies i grew in 5 gal garden container & 2x2 screen gonna put out some nuggets this round.
got them in 2 gals, one screen, one bush, to see whats what. best cooks strain so far for me.
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useless.gardens
1000bulbs for the win. prices. awesome. custy service. awesome.
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dude like you should have a nice relationship w/a local grow shop?
i call mine just to chat
i call mine just to chat
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useless.gardens
the bulbs are $75+ (each) at the grow shop. you're smart to note, i do want to grab more stuff in person for sure. its safer especially when you pay cash. still i paid $35 each for the above bulbs. all "bigger" online stores pack proper & use fed-ex. & i did the whole lab at a great price. converted 3 air-cooled lamps to cmh for $107. even one bulb came broke. i dont even have to leave my house. for sure, there's perks both ways. compared to 3 hps lamps @ 600w. i think , just as efficient. & the saving in leccy gives me a hard-on.
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i can appreciate saving $ fer sure...main reason i like my shop 'cause i can call & pay & it'll show up asap...no hassles no worries , they take care of me
I like 1000bulbs too. 
earthwyrms
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what do you mean about the genetic modification? in the regular, or you mean crossing it with ruderalis stuff to make an auto "strain name"
also, have you considered lowering your operating cost by using LEDs?
the "galaxy hydro" 300W (140W, 12W for fans, 128W for lights), runs a balanced spectrum at like 80-90 dollars
they do not produce alot of heat.
if you look at specifiations, you an find the colors, wavelengths of LEDs used. one 300W type has flower looking vents on the sides. those don't have all the range of LEDs that the galaxy hydro one does (it has vertial ut straight vents. i had gotten one that was from "popular grow" whih was the same model, and is not arried now. the galaxy hydro 300W is the same exact one. the popular grow one with the flowers is the inferior one, and the popular grow one with 3 fans and a dimmer has nearly idential power ratings, and is 180 dollars though, so galaxy hydro 300W is probably the best bet for replacing an HID or MH lamp. if you want to throw in amber, 610-615nm, there are phlatlights that operate in the red-amber region (discontinued but available).
(there are LED glasses for eye protection)
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i use grow goggles by hydrofarm. similar to method7. little cheaper. & very effective. that type of eye protect makes me feel better after leaving the lab. they dont work so great with the cmh as far as glare. however, i try to do most of my work lights off under green ledz.
the WOS afghan kush has (as described by them) "genetic mods". they dont say in detail & i notice that info has been changed/altered. been years since i ran their gear. im not sure the gene modz have to do with autos as much as creating uniformity & heterosis. you can look for WOS on the web & check it out if you're curious. looking around at the WOS site , i was just at there and see, they stole a pic from me :http://www.worldofseeds.eu/wos_en/afghan-kush.html
i have 2 mars hydro panels. they collect lots of dust & i prefer them for emergency issues or for extra light on the side in flower. pretty much in veg, those lamp suck major D. look at what hammerhead is doing in veg w/ a 315w cmh. plants are beasts. in flower, nothing beats hidz. never use anything else. cobbs, what for? you put 200w of cobb on a plant and that's all you get. one plant with 200w on it. i had the 160w led panel installed in a 2x2 for rooted clones last week as i lost the 150w cfl bulb... hate what led lights do to my vegging plants. flip side, i do like kessils & see value in led lamps.
i feel you on op costs. and thats a big deal for me. after years of practice, learning, growing, & growing some more... ill never give up those magnetic ballasts.
with the change i made to my medium , im growing some of the best flowers in my experience.
funny thing is... i can do better.
for the record, im extremely happy with the 400w cmh bulbs.
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earthwyrms
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w.o.s afghan --> like GMO or just the bit about being hybridized and not quite a landrace?
i think more blue in veg helps.? i don't know (i run micro, flower period from seed, so far). but there are some selectable (veg / bloom)-setup lights that do that. running a pure blue array during veg, as a supplement over the mars lights might do it if the spread is homogenous and not blue-red cone/hot spots.
also, a really good option for a good coverage of blues and near UV is this "tuna
blue" light, it has some not usually included wavelengths.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABI-24W-Tun...uarium-Optimized-Spectrum-PAR38-/252758078259
"LEDs: 1x 395-400nm, 1x 410-420nm, 2x 420-430nm, 1x 430-440nm, 2x 440-450nm, 2x 450-460nm, 2x 460-470nm, 1x 470-475nm, 1x 490-495nm, 1x 6500K, 1x cyan (phosphor based)"
the 24W one has a better ratio than the 12W one, of the rarer blues to the other types.
i need one myself.
that and the amber orange phlatlight were the wavelength patches i have been meaning to acquire
(the 610-615nm is around some lesser peak and a peak for other light absorbers besides chlorophyll. carotines i think.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Phlatligh...nge-615nm-LED-W-Heatsink-Optics-/172379876093
also, i stumbled on this re-finding that blue light,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MH-24-Metal...-Marine-250W-Bulb-Lamp-LED-346W-/111477953282
"This MH ADV+ T5 24” is THE reefer’s light. A space saving combo unit combines 1x 250W HQI metal halide, 4x 24W Actinic Blue T5 HO lamps, and 4x Bluemoon LED into one single unit. This unit also features external HQI controller, heavy duty cooling fan, mounting legs, and anodized aluminum housing. Separate power cords for MH and T5. Multiple power switches for different functions."
" Supports 1x 250W Metal Halide DE FC2 lamps
Supports 4x 24W T5 High Output (HO) lamps
Supports 4x dual Bluemoon LED
4x Power Switch (2x T5, 1x LED, 1x Fan)
2x Power Cord (1x MH, 1x T5)
External HQI controllers
Internal T5 HO fluorescent ballasts"
$165
how come magnetic ballasts are your preference? aren't electronic ones more efficient, or are they too finicky and break easier/quicker? are the magnetic ballasts just more stable?
i think more blue in veg helps.? i don't know (i run micro, flower period from seed, so far). but there are some selectable (veg / bloom)-setup lights that do that. running a pure blue array during veg, as a supplement over the mars lights might do it if the spread is homogenous and not blue-red cone/hot spots.
also, a really good option for a good coverage of blues and near UV is this "tuna
blue" light, it has some not usually included wavelengths.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ABI-24W-Tun...uarium-Optimized-Spectrum-PAR38-/252758078259
"LEDs: 1x 395-400nm, 1x 410-420nm, 2x 420-430nm, 1x 430-440nm, 2x 440-450nm, 2x 450-460nm, 2x 460-470nm, 1x 470-475nm, 1x 490-495nm, 1x 6500K, 1x cyan (phosphor based)"
the 24W one has a better ratio than the 12W one, of the rarer blues to the other types.
i need one myself.
that and the amber orange phlatlight were the wavelength patches i have been meaning to acquire
(the 610-615nm is around some lesser peak and a peak for other light absorbers besides chlorophyll. carotines i think.)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Phlatligh...nge-615nm-LED-W-Heatsink-Optics-/172379876093
also, i stumbled on this re-finding that blue light,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MH-24-Metal...-Marine-250W-Bulb-Lamp-LED-346W-/111477953282
"This MH ADV+ T5 24” is THE reefer’s light. A space saving combo unit combines 1x 250W HQI metal halide, 4x 24W Actinic Blue T5 HO lamps, and 4x Bluemoon LED into one single unit. This unit also features external HQI controller, heavy duty cooling fan, mounting legs, and anodized aluminum housing. Separate power cords for MH and T5. Multiple power switches for different functions."
" Supports 1x 250W Metal Halide DE FC2 lamps
Supports 4x 24W T5 High Output (HO) lamps
Supports 4x dual Bluemoon LED
4x Power Switch (2x T5, 1x LED, 1x Fan)
2x Power Cord (1x MH, 1x T5)
External HQI controllers
Internal T5 HO fluorescent ballasts"
$165
how come magnetic ballasts are your preference? aren't electronic ones more efficient, or are they too finicky and break easier/quicker? are the magnetic ballasts just more stable?
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useless.gardens
i love blue light in veg. less green is how i think of it. plants cant use it. so less in the spectrum for the lamp u use the better.
dont get me wrong i use kessils every day at 12/12 for years. love those little led lamps. with some side light & just 1 kessil over the plant , i get great growth & dont have to constantly move/relocate plants.
def like those 24w bulbs. in a 2x2 you could use 4 of those & get some great results. everything has an application. the mars 164w panels for are great for "on the spot" problem solving. for that, i love them.
i had a 250w mh fish tank type ballast for years. got it on ebay. i ran it w/ vert hanger in veg. worked awesome. last year the starter kicked inside the ballast & the replacement parts were too much $. new 250w ballast area also too much $. so i chucked it.
mag ballasts are great cause generally, 400 & 600s used in my set up, are 100% rebuild-able. plus i like to use EMI filter on the ballasts. with EMI, i dont trust any electronic ballast at all.
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useless.gardens
soon enough be in a jar.
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the scissors...they lurk
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