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:::::::USA Set to Reschedule Cannabis::::::: HHS Releases Recommendation Documents:::::::

H e d g e

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good point, pipeline! MANY medicines have intoxicating effects , why are some people fixated on trying to find something wrong with cannabis ? never heard any "drug warrior" bitching about valiums or any other pill being an intoxicant.
I agree, this is absurd. What’s interesting is that it’s in all countries, not just yours. Italy now too joins in with cannabis driving tests when it’s been well established it makes you less likely to crash.

There are people who make suggestions to governments globally who don’t want it available is my guess, leaders who don’t conform get killed, those who do get funded.
Its no threat to anyone so I think it must be an antidote to whatever weapons these people rely on to maintain control. Can’t think of another explanation, it’s weird.

It was the uk first to ban it in the colonies, china in 1984, you can map global take over with the eradication of cannabis.
It’s also banned in Russia but who knows if that was in exchange for Chelsea football club or if they’re using the same weapons with which it interferes.

I reckon legalisation is just another attempt to control quality and availability, criminalising it was pretty ineffective.
Probably certain cannabinoids they don’t want you having access to, maybe thcp? And then if there’s a bit of cbd in there to block peak uptake of delta 9 maybe it’s no longer problematic from their point of view?

If anyone can think of a better explanation as to why so many different countries would all independently come to the same absurd conclusion to control the use of this beautiful plant I’m all ears.
 
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Its no threat to anyone so I think it must be an antidote to whatever weapons these people rely on to maintain control. Can’t think of another explanation, it’s weird.

^ I think you summed up the fundamental reasons more accurately in those few sentences than I've seen before. And I think your reasoning is absolutely correct.

Does cannabis make people generally more compliant, stupid and easier to control? Or...does it make people generally see things more objectively and with a healthy cynicism which makes it easier for them to spot bullshit and manipulation when they see it? I think generally, it's the latter.

And like you were saying, it can't just be that cannabis has been near-universally outlawed and demonized because a lot of people have always liked to use it and therefore it's an easy thing to nail people on. If that was the case, then governments would have chosen to outlaw nicotine or caffeine globally.

History, especially the 1960s Hippie generation showed that cannabis "opened people's eyes to The Man." The word "Counterculture" is significant in this regard.
 
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H e d g e

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^ I think you summed up the fundamental reasons more accurately in those few sentences than I've seen before. And I think your reasoning is absolutely correct.

Does cannabis make people generally more compliant, stupid and easier to control? Or...does it make people generally see things more objectively and with a healthy cynicism which makes it easier for them to spot bullshit and manipulation when they see it? I think generally, it's the latter.

And like you were saying, it can't just be that cannabis has been near-universally outlawed and demonized because a lot of people have always liked to use it and therefore it's an easy thing to nail people on. If that was the case, then governments would have chosen to outlaw nicotine or caffeine globally.

History, especially the 1960s Hippie generation showed that cannabis "opened people's eyes to The Man."
I wish someone would open the eyes of whoever these people are and pass them a spliff.
Maybe they would realise that genocidal totalitarianism isn’t such a great idea.
 

H e d g e

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governments would have chosen to outlaw nicotine
There’re some similarities between what happened to cannabis and tobacco, both considered holy plants, have you ever smoked rustica?

Tobacco was one of the first plants to be modified, I don’t think nicotine is considered to be especially problematic to these people or it would have been banned but there are effects in rustica tobacco that no longer exist in modern varieties. Something has be removed, similar to the difference between pure sativa and skunk.

I’m not convinced that unadulterated tobacco causes any health problems either, people smoking homegrown live longer than none smokers, the evidence is in every blue zone.
Its thought that the extended life expectancy is a result of mitochondrial uncoupling, we’ve been lied to about so many things, it’s difficult to separate the facts from the fiction.
 
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Mind control and eugenics project, cannabis prohibition achieves both. Because cannabis helps your body be healthier, your mind can think more clearly. Its a medicine. Also reduced life expectancy and quality of life for people under the oppression of prohibition.

Lack of education leads people to not utilize cannabis as they scoff at it as a less effective natural medicine.

Also lack of education and also cultural norms in abusing cannabis leads people to habbits of abuse using high dosages rather than using relatively small quantites, here and there throughout the day.

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H e d g e

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Mind control and eugenics project, cannabis prohibition achieves both. Because cannabis helps your body be healthier, your mind can think more clearly. Its a medicine. Also reduced life expectancy and quality of life for people under the oppression of prohibition.

Lack of education leads people to not utilize cannabis as they scoff at it as a less effective natural medicine.

Also lack of education and also cultural norms in abusing cannabis leads people to habbits of abuse using high dosages rather than using relatively small quantites, here and there throughout the day.

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I left school when I was 14 with no qualifications, like a smoke, and find the more I smoke the better I cope with my various health issues so I’m not sure on that one.
Interestingly lack of education is strongly associated with the small proportion of the population who refuse to conform to mass formation.
I’m sure some people think I’m mad and others might consider my life choices to be confused. I think we’re all different, born or made that way via the education system I’m not sure, maybe a bit of both.
 

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The cannabis prohibition is really infringing on our right to use hemp in 9 states. I am pissed about it because I need it for medicine and all I can get is the oil here. I need quality fresh terpenes and cannabinoids to help get the best medical affect.


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They want to keep us from using an effective safe, relatively cheap plant-based natural raw medicine which is effective for promoting whole body and mind wellness.
 

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Prohibition also reduces the birth rate because it influences social connections. Also the potential legal consequences harm a patient's life and ability to connect with others.
 

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I think they had to lift cannabis prohibition because after CoVid 19 people were pissed and it helped the people have a better approval rating of the government in general.

I remain somewhat optimistic, but I do feel like the lifting of cannabis prohibition may be a signal that some big changes are on the way for monetary policy and currency as well as global power structure. We'll see, It seems strange, why lift the prohibition now since its been so long?
 

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I think they had to lift cannabis prohibition because after CoVid 19 people were pissed and it helped the people have a better approval rating of the government in general.

I remain somewhat optimistic, but I do feel like the lifting of cannabis prohibition may be a signal that some big changes are on the way for monetary policy and currency as well as global power structure. We'll see, It seems strange, why lift the prohibition now since its been so long?
Times they are changing and it’s a good thing ! Common sense prevails and down with censorship
 

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Yeah you can fool some people some times but you can fool all the people all the time.

The truth gets out there.

Now the governor of Indiana is talking about "its time to bring medical cannabis to our state". They wait and change their position once they start to look bad.
 

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There were comments recently made by Joe Elsner former Republican GOP chair, who supports the new reform group Safe and Regulated Indiana. He said Indiana is falling behind on this one issue.



 

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Did the democrats legalize medical cannabis in this current term?
the Democrats did not control the House of Representatives. plus, in the Senate, you have to have 60+ votes to kill a filibuster. they only had 51 counting Kamala, and would probably run into a few Ds that would vote against it because of "the people back home"... lots of the chickenshits are scared to death of being the deciding vote. "i'm afraid i'll lose my next election..." when it is obviously going to pass, some will STILL vote against it just so they can tell the church folks in their district "hey, i tried..." :dunno:
 

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Braun is blatently deceptive when he says 70% support medical cannabis in Indiana. The fact is, the recent survey by Safe and Regulated Indiana shows 70% supports adult-use legalization.

Don't be naive, politicians play stupid and manipulate the public all the time. I can see where this is going. The people have no voice, its oppression at work.

Braun speaks lies to cover up the truth. The people demand liberty and an end to this destructive policy of prohibition.

When will it end?

What difference does it mak? If only patients with chronic diseases have access to cannabis, but everyone else is labeled a criminal and is subject to prosecution, the harms to our society will only continue and may become worse in some ways.



 

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The church supports reform, its just the media's propaganda and manipulated public opinion which forms the appearance of that facade. People want change, look at the polls which continue to show widespread support.

The church believes in God, they believe in the truth. Jesus came to save us and give us life. Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried according to the scriptures, and he was raised the third day according to the scriptures.
 

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Heres where he is quoted using the false statistic with deception.



Seventy percent of registered voters surveyed, or 871 responses out of 1,252 Hoosiers, either strongly or somewhat supported legalization for Hoosiers over the age of 21, compared to 27% who opposed the idea. Safe and Regulated Indiana, a new Republican-backed group, released the results Monday.

 
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Braun is a liar already, and he isn't even in office yet! Wonder how this is going to go. He will veto a legalization bill if passed by Indiana Legislature. There are legalization bills which will be introduced this year, I have read. The adult-use legalization bills may never get a chance to be heard because Governor Braun will veto them, an the Republican chairs won't allow them to be on the table for discussion. Only medical cannabis will be discussed, contrary to the people's will and the law of Justice.

Marijuana Legalization
Support for marijuana legalization remains robust, with 62 percent favoring recreational and medicinal legalization and an additional 25 percent supporting medicinal-only legalization. Support varies by education level, with 70 percent of those without college education favoring full legalization, compared to 51 percent of respondents with a four-year degree or higher.

“The growing support for marijuana legalization reflects national trends,” Dr. Smith said.




 

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