urkle day 45

[humboldthippy#1]

humbolt, yeah they will stretch some but still 3 to 4 feet is not very much at all bro. If I veg a trainwreck 3 feet I will get a 10 foot monster Feel me?

I mean, say you veg this damn plant for 60 days and its 2 feet tall, you flip the thing and it finishes at 28" and doesn't yield that much.

Im not sayin she doesnt' do it up cuz she definately does it up. I have some urkle at 40 days right now as a matter of fact. Starting to go purple just the tops of the calyx at this point. Leaves are not purple except the margin. If I dropped night time temps 5 more degrees I would get solid purple everything. Colors don't really do it for me tho Im all about the smoke. Urkle happens to do very well in that ever so important category.

i hope ya dont mind me mentionin some things bro i mean them all in the best way possible.

here's what i noticed growing trainwreck and its hybrids...when small and triggered they stretch a bunch but triggering over 20" plants or so nets ya a plant just a touch over 3 ft. the bigger ya get um the less they stretch indoors.

I got urkle growing bout 4" a week or so once she gets rooted up in my dirt mix...and thats under the floros(they spend bout 6 weeks under um) when i put um under the 1ks to veg(another 3-4 weeks under bloom watts minimum) they take off a LOT more its all about the veg under the bloom watts with her and then keeping the temps dialed in bout 80 till week 6 if colors show earilier yield is fucked urkle gets goin fat if you feed the shit out of her too

also if let go urkle will color just the same.

 

[BabyHughie]

i hope ya dont mind me mentionin some things bro i mean them all in the best way possible.

not at all bro its all good discussion.



I must have a different trainwreck then you because when i flip a 20" plant I get a 4-5 foot monster If you would like to watch Im going to be starting a new grow here shortly. I will probably veg 10-14 days and finish with 4 foot plants.

I agree with what you said on the urkle. She can take 1700PPMs in hydro with no problem. Love it in fact.

Still tho you veg for a total of 9-10 weeks. At that point it doesn't matter how fat she grows for you because I could have just got an entire trainwreck grow off clone to harvest in the time you were vegging. Feel me?

Going back to my original point that even when you grow her right she doesn't really 'do it up' in any category except the (ever so important) finished product. Shes quite the picky bitch as a matter of fact and not that high of yields for the effort. Quite alot of work to grow. You make it sound as tho she is very easy to grow but that is not the case at all. My urkle grows are more work than any other strain Ive run. Between the mandatory trimmings the somewhat picky nute requirments and the ridiculiously tight internode growth and bushiness....well you see where Im going with this.

Urkle has been the main bitch in my grows for the last year and a half I know a little bit about her.

 

[humboldthippy#1]

yes youre right if you get clones and veg in your bloom area trigger harvest and repeat then it doesnt make sense to veg urkle for the 9-10 weeks it takes to do it in organic soil which imho she shines in all departments from yield to taste...but i dont do it that way

I have racks with T5s on them that hold 32 6"(1 gallon) squares...my plants stay here for 4-6 weeks. I "top" them right before they go under the 1ks then I give um about 2 weeks under teh 1k's and "top" em again and give another 7-10 days and trigger.

So basically I'm vegging in my bloom area for the same 3 weeks that you would be your trainwreck grow. Now I don't hear anyone callin for trainwreck..but all I hear is GRAPES GRAPES GRAPES..feel me?

My scene is set up to make growing urkle easy for me because its what I like to do, my clones root 2-2.5 weeks in to my cycle, they stay under the floros for 6 weeks then spend 3 weeks under the bloom watts i take cuttings again, they go in to the fridge bloom area gets triggered and then a week in i root my clones out of the fridge and get the next batch going.

if you put 9 of those waterfarms under a lamp and yield the way you said you did i do not know what there is to complain about??

i gave my buddy a bunch of grandaddy clones last year and i found out he has a mom going so im going to do a few lamps of that side by side with a few lamps of urkle and we'll see what the difference is

right now though a consistant 1.5-1.75 per lamp every 2 months of really really nice finished urkle is good enough for me

 

[Herbsman_OS]

yes youre right if you get clones and veg in your bloom area trigger harvest and repeat then it doesnt make sense to veg urkle for the 9-10 weeks it takes to do it in organic soil which imho she shines in all departments from yield to taste...but i dont do it that way

I have racks with T5s on them that hold 32 6"(1 gallon) squares...my plants stay here for 4-6 weeks. I "top" them right before they go under the 1ks then I give um about 2 weeks under teh 1k's and "top" em again and give another 7-10 days and trigger.

So basically I'm vegging in my bloom area for the same 3 weeks that you would be your trainwreck grow. Now I don't hear anyone callin for trainwreck..but all I hear is GRAPES GRAPES GRAPES..feel me?

My scene is set up to make growing urkle easy for me because its what I like to do, my clones root 2-2.5 weeks in to my cycle, they stay under the floros for 6 weeks then spend 3 weeks under the bloom watts i take cuttings again, they go in to the fridge bloom area gets triggered and then a week in i root my clones out of the fridge and get the next batch going.

if you put 9 of those waterfarms under a lamp and yield the way you said you did i do not know what there is to complain about??

i gave my buddy a bunch of grandaddy clones last year and i found out he has a mom going so im going to do a few lamps of that side by side with a few lamps of urkle and we'll see what the difference is

right now though a consistant 1.5-1.75 per lamp every 2 months of really really nice finished urkle is good enough for me

I'd like to see the difference myself between GDP adn PErkle, and what you said about those units >>> "1.5-1.75 per lamp" are consistent on my end as well.

--Herbsman_OS

 

[JDOG6000]

I just harvested some Purple Cream.
It was ok.
I like urkle way better.
I think it's Urkle x some kind of orange tasting affy strain.
Not sure.
It might be GDP x ?
It does taste more like GDP then urkle.
It yiellded well.
about 4 ounces on a small bush that I vegged forever,it seemed.
I got rid of the mother.
Because if I'm going to grow any purple strains it will be the real URkle and Purple Kush.
I'm not a fan of GDP or P cream as much as plain urkle.
I'm getting a clone of urkle soon.
So I'll decide then.

It does yield well if you have room to veg for a good 2 months.
But who has that much room to spare.
Not me.
Urkle will grow just for my headstash.
It isn't a strain I would want to work with too much because of the crappy veg time.

 

[mysta177]

JD what would you say the veg time would be for purple cream? Do you think it would benefit to chop early? The reason im asking is because I smoked some chopped at day 45 and it tasted way diffrent. It had a 2 day cure.

 

[BabyHughie]

yes youre right if you get clones and veg in your bloom area trigger harvest and repeat then it doesnt make sense to veg urkle for the 9-10 weeks it takes to do it in organic soil which imho she shines in all departments from yield to taste...but i dont do it that way

I have racks with T5s on them that hold 32 6"(1 gallon) squares...my plants stay here for 4-6 weeks. I "top" them right before they go under the 1ks then I give um about 2 weeks under teh 1k's and "top" em again and give another 7-10 days and trigger.

So basically I'm vegging in my bloom area for the same 3 weeks that you would be your trainwreck grow. Now I don't hear anyone callin for trainwreck..but all I hear is GRAPES GRAPES GRAPES..feel me?

2 points

1. Even if you only veg for 3 weeks in your bloom area I would still be flowering at least a week before you. And thats after 60 days of 'pre veg' for you.

2. Regardless that your bloom room is only occupied for 3 weeks of veg, you are still having to 1. House the plants somewhere else for the previous 60 days. As we all know sqft is gold. 2. Pay the power, nutrients, and most importantly TIME. Time is gold as well.

right now though a consistant 1.5-1.75 per lamp every 2 months of really really nice finished urkle is good enough for me

Thats a nice harvest, but its not 2 months at all its 4 months. You can't just count the time its in your flowering room, doesn't work like that.

It seems like some people fail to realize that you lose overall efficiency when you veg, PERIOD. Veg time is money (time and space) that could be spent on something else. Over the course of a year you could have gotten yourself a hooker ARG or a few nice dinners for the wife.



PS 9 of those waterfarms would not come close to fitting under a single lamp with the plant size that I had. 3-4 plants will fill a 4x4 space no problem.


Listen Im not bitching about urkle. If you look around youll see that Im and urkle whore. Its my favorite smoke. But that doesn't mean its not a fucking bitch to work with.


EDIT
mysta a 2 day cure is hardly a cure at all. Give it a month and see how it really tastes.

Unfortunately Ive heard alot of bad about the purple cream and not much good at all.

Humbolt just to be clear no anomosity here bro just having a good discussion as are you I believe.

 

[humboldthippy#1]

well dude like i said my veg space is effcient and it works great i got urkle on cycle and its possible for me to pull 4-5 big crops a year with her and thats the way i choose to grow because to me it makes the most sense.

and if im vegging the next batch while the previous is flowering, why isnt that a crop every 2 months? just because something is going on at the same time doenst mean something else cant be happening you know

i got a decent amount of space to "waste" time on vegging urkle and bloomin her

ive grown grandaddy once for the persont hat was wondering and it was almost the same as urkle except it seemed tomake roots in the pot faster thats it i dont know we'll see again soon

 

[BabyHughie]

well dude like i said my veg space is effcient and it works great i got urkle on cycle and its possible for me to pull 4-5 big crops a year with her and thats the way i choose to grow because to me it makes the most sense.

and if im vegging the next batch while the previous is flowering, why isnt that a crop every 2 months? just because something is going on at the same time doenst mean something else cant be happening you know

i got a decent amount of space to "waste" time on vegging urkle and bloomin her

ive grown grandaddy once for the persont hat was wondering and it was almost the same as urkle except it seemed tomake roots in the pot faster thats it i dont know we'll see again soon

I am not saying that you can't crop every 2 months. Only that your grow is actually taking 4 months total and that those extra two months are not free they cost money, time (you have to tend to them) and ever important space that could be used to hang (for example) another big light. Even if your veg, area is very efficiant you still have two pay for it. Right?

Feel me.

If you want to get right down to it how many of those T5s do you have what wattage are they? We can figure out exactly how much EXTRA money you are using so that you can grow urkle.

LMAO never thought I would find myself argueing against urkle.

 

[humboldthippy#1]

i am not gonna give specs of my op out publically

but let me put it this way

i have too many t5s...too many big lamps...and yes while i still have to pay for everything, i really do not care, because in the end..it doesnt matter.

 

[BabyHughie]

LMAO HUH ok.

What are you scarred to see how much money your really using for that extra 60 days of veg with those outlandish cali power rates? JK

Lets put an end to this tho Ive made my point and so have you.

 

[humboldthippy#1]

huh outlandish power? under 10c a kW aint bad bro!!!

 

[ethereal]

wouldnt it make most sense to run her in a coli, or otherwise SOG her?
why u guys even bother with mini-bushes, is beyond me....!
does the final product smoke *that* much better grown in soil?

 

[humboldthippy#1]

wouldnt it make most sense to run her in a coli, or otherwise SOG her?
why u guys even bother with mini-bushes, is beyond me....!
does the final product smoke *that* much better grown in soil?

um yes it is that much better and urkle needs roots to produce. i'd rather have 18 quarter pound plants than 300 quarter ounce plants

here she is less than 4 wks in organic soil

new shots soon i just have to get off my ass

 

[ethereal]

total yield per annum would be higher in vert if given the same special treatment
as you are giving your soil grow.
[@least double veg time. ie: 4wks]
so yeah, youd be right except you forgot to calculate added veg into your equation.
maybe im wrong i will know for myself how she grows very soon tho
what kind of veg. time yields 7grams each in hydro? warn a brotha, plz...didnt think she was THAT bad :/
nice plant btw. looks tasty... i see u on soil bein a much better product,
just always heard the 'grapey' taste translates well when grown in water.
lookin forward to those uploads.

 

[humboldthippy#1]

total yield per annum would be higher in vert if given the same special treatment
as you are giving your soil grow.
[@least double veg time. ie: 4wks]
so yeah, youd be right except you forgot to calculate added veg into your equation.
maybe im wrong i will know for myself how she grows very soon tho
what kind of veg. time yields 7grams each in hydro? warn a brotha, plz...didnt think she was THAT bad :/
nice plant btw. looks tasty... i see u on soil bein a much better product,
just always heard the 'grapey' taste translates well when grown in water.
lookin forward to those uploads.

look i am vegging for about 9 weeks to do it in organic soil 16 per lamp easier to get a shorter canopy with more plants yields are a lot better that way ime also im vegging in a separate area so i do not include veg time

 

[Guest]

Some good info being shared... cool.

Here's my .2 after growing her in orgainc soil and hydro...

The soil plants tasted better; they had a richer, fuller taste to them. It reminds me of the diff between a nice organic egg and one of the mass produced cheap eggs. They both taste like egg but the organic just has way more flave and body to it. I can't tell a diff in potency at all. Smell is the same as well for me.

My soil plants were given approx 60-65 (maybe 70) days veg and averaged 3 zips each under 1k lights. My room is sealed and they are marinated in c02 the whole time. 9 per light I got 1.69 bows.. not bad at all.

This last hydro run got 50 days veg and I've only weighed my big plant out of the bunch at 4.6 oz. I do have a lot that wont get near that. The rest of my crop has not been on the scale yet but I'm goin to guess that I wiill be close to 1.8 to 2 bows. same spacing @ 9 per light.

On Hugies point of space and time... I do have a separate veg room that I can run at the same time as the flower room. I have to keep my elec. use down so I can not burn any more big lights as it is so I consider any veg time in that room with 60 days or less no prob. I typically burn 400 watts in there. My electricity costs from .35 per kwh up to .50 cents at peak!!!!

I like to run more veg time and less plant numbers to stay within my legal limit. The gram per watt mark is a good goal but If I'm happy with my set up and how my stuff turns out in the end that's more important to me.

I would love to try a good pheno of GDP though...

 

[BabyHughie]

Yeah sorry gronut we were getting out of line. *goes to sit in the corner*


PS gronut has more typical cali energy rates I believe. :wink:

 

[Guest]

hello there
not a whole to say about the last three/six post in this thread can we get back to talking about the urkle plant and the best way to grow her --the lights per space thing...anybody got any new pics of the urk bud .......
peace my friends

P.S. and hell ya i'm with gro i'm DIEING to try a GDP cut KENS perferably but i'm not picking!!!!!!

 

[-VT-]

I like to run more veg time and less plant numbers to stay within my legal limit. The gram per watt mark is a good goal but If I'm happy with my set up and how my stuff turns out in the end that's more important to me.

Couldn't agree more...