UPS shipment seizure

[Guest]

thank you very much for pointing me to this!

 

[Berry_Coughin']

Nice find Fulcrum

 

[Guest]

thanks fulcrum, i was too lazy to search their site!

 

[Guest]

Your Welcome,

 

[Chitownstoner]

funny shit. Everyone that work at UPS is a stoner. I worked there for 6 months. No drug tests. UPS = United Pot Smokers. We don't inspect the package at all. There are no k9, bomb unit dogs, or x-ray machines at UPS. You have to make sure that the package is air tight. Heavy seals, and wrapped many times and stuffed inside something such as a teddy bear. Vaccum seal is the way to go. I scored some pot working their. If a box reeked, i got my box cutter out, sniffed til i found it and pocketed the weed.

 

[pico]

Thousands of pounds of pot go through the mail every day. Almost all go through without problems. If you know what you are doing and take all the right precautions it is the safest method of transportation.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I fired this caregiver over this, plus his osmocote nutes, and immature product.The local UPS knew what he was shipping.They had opened 3 packages before.He had sent out LOTS of packages from the same store in a tiny town.No big secret.The smoke was African with a delicious smell.I'm smoking my version of it as we speak.The feds said they wouldn't go after Robbin, but if someone was shipping all over the state, they would look into it.Missoula is little Haight Ashbury.More meth labs per capita in the valley to the north than any where in the U.S.Indian Reservation.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

The reason the private shippers can open packages without a warrant has to do with employee saftey.As of some of Bushes latest dictatorial decrees, the feds can open your packages without a warrant under homeland security.Same as your P.C. and your phone records and taking your picture anytime your out in public.Ain't freedom great.

 

[OG bub]

umm.. USPS can open stuff without a warrent..... ever wonder how some things get "damaged" n then taped up during shipping?..lol
but bs aside, USPS can also inspect packages they believe to be suspicious..... without a warrent.. n if they want a warrent, they get it......

Private courier are about the the dumbest way to ship herbs...

shipping herb isnt smart if yer not smart about it. vac packers are mandatory.. Id even say it wont hurt to go as far as packing it inside something like a toy er somethin giftlike.. ya know..

My intl seed stuff used to go out in all kindsa things, stereo's included

be carefull.. you wont get too many fouls with the fed gov without serious problems....

peace, bub.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I know a guy who is a MOM.He ships a lb. a week in packages between 1/2 an oz., and a whole oz.In 9 years, he has never had a package not arrive.If USPS stops a package, your supposed to get the green monster letter from the feds, telling you how you can dispute the capture.If the green monster and the package don't arrive, some mail person aint going postal that day.

 

[pico]

Know how often they do criminal charges after the green monster letter?


I knew someone that lost 3 lbs and the reciever got the green monster but nothing ever happened. I guess that isn't the end of the world.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I know of a package that went out,overnite delivery, from usps, and the tracking number never came up and the package never arrived.Nothing ever heard.If they were serious about busting the reciever, they would let him sign for it and then bustem.

 

[OG bub]

recievers are NOT responsible fer a pkg sent to them.... its basic knowledge.... they have no controll over what they recieve...

thats why a smart sender dont put a legit return addy on a pkg....

isnt this elementary?!

ok heres some simple minded effective tipps:

-dont use yer home addy...

-if yer noid about recieving, dont open the pkg fer a cpl days... if the law come to yer door fer a pkg.. you never opend it... just give it to them! cause you thougt it was junk mail...right!?!

-destroy all evidence.. fuggin burn it!

-use a vac pack, or just dont send.. plain and simple..

-grow pot, so other folks and you, dont face federal charges......

peace, bub.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I've heard of cases both ways.The ones they bust either have to explain it to a jury,but most would plea.He got sloppy.They weren't locals that smelled it.It was a town 100 miles away.They weren't in the know, evidently.Just plain sloppiness.Why I fired him.His trimming is junk,also.Everything comes down at 42 days.Too early for the African.

 

[pico]

actually it is a federal offense to use a fake return address. Use a real address, just make sure it isn't yours.

 

[Verite]

Yep, Ive had people lose stuff for doing the fake return too many times. Since doing valid return addys [ someone elses ] I havent lost anything yet.

The next big flag on a delivery is an unexpected delay. If its more than a couple days late without any extra postmarks to indicate why the odds go up its been intercepted. If youre sketched at that point your only legal valid point of no return is not accepting the package at delivery.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I've heard they sometimes use the rational that if you sign for it, you must know what's in it and be expecting it.They'll spin it to fit their agenda.No big surprise there.

 

[SweetIndica2]

recievers are NOT responsible fer a pkg sent to them.... its basic knowledge.... they have no controll over what they recieve...

thats why a smart sender dont put a legit return addy on a pkg....

isnt this elementary?!

ok heres some simple minded effective tipps:

-dont use yer home addy...

-if yer noid about recieving, dont open the pkg fer a cpl days... if the law come to yer door fer a pkg.. you never opend it... just give it to them! cause you thougt it was junk mail...right!?!

-destroy all evidence.. fuggin burn it!

-use a vac pack, or just dont send.. plain and simple..

-grow pot, so other folks and you, dont face federal charges......

peace, bub.

Exactly, i follow all of those procedures and never had a package not arrive to me. Air sealing is the way to go, and taking little extra precautions can go a long way.

 

[El Loco Smoko]

I got one of those bycycle tire pump looking sealers for about $35 , and it seals jars.It has a tab with sticky on one end and rubber on the other.You poke a hole with a tack.You can reseal em many times.Works great for your stash also.I got mine right beside my chair.You can aso seal ziplocs with it for marinating.You put vaseline on the seal strip, put the hose on and pumper up.After about 5 minutes, you unseal it, and that sucks it into the meat.I found couple oz.s that I forgot about and had hanging for 2 months.It was bone dry.I gave em a spritz of water spray, vacuumed it and unsealed it a few times, and the just right amount of moisture went in the bud anf left the stem so it would still snap.Best $35 I've ever spent.

 

[theFLINTSTONERS]

If private shipping companies have this disgression why would they obtain a warrant? Wouldn't it be quicker for them to just check it themselves when the man arrives? I *highly* doubt any agent would go through the trouble (minor, yes) of getting a warrant when the company has full disgression.

I believe thats bullshit. Certainly they would have to disclose this, in some sort of privacy policy, which I was unable to find after a quick search on ups.

I want to see that disclosure.

hiya Sarge . . .

looks like folks have already shown the UPS policy statement about their right to inspect packages . . .

we'd guess that in some specific instances . . . warrants and the like are secured to satisfy prosecutors that some kind of technicality won't cost them a potential bust . . . and to establish things like chain of evidence . . .


as for the assertion that "recievers are NOT responsible fer a pkg sent to them.... its basic knowledge.... they have no controll over what they recieve..."

we are not so sure that's 100% perfectly accurate in all venues . . . at least we wouldn't offer that as legal advice ourselves . . .