Unofficial Coco Coir Growers Thread

[Wariat]

Hello everybody

First, because im new here, i want to say, then all you guys doing really good work up here in coco forum.

Thanks for all the advice you share with us ​

My friend have one question bothering him , which should not be a problem for you

How much water he need per day per plant in 1 and 3 galon pots with run to waste and run-off 10-15 % ? He want to water his ladies 3 to 5 times per light on.

Basicaly, i heard then i need daily one-third of the pot volume. Is this true ?

Im asking, because my friend want to run with coco first time, and he need to know how much of each nutrient he should order.

Sorry for any possible mistakes, because Im a european.

Keep up good work ​

 

[70's rock]

My friend have one question bothering him , which should not be a problem for you

How much water he need per day per plant in 1 and 3 galon pots with run to waste and run-off 10-15 % ? He want to water his ladies 3 to 5 times per light on.

Basicaly, i heard then i need daily one-third of the pot volume. Is this true ?

Im asking, because my friend want to run with coco first time, and he need to know how much of each nutrient he should order.

Sorry for any possible mistakes, because Im a european.

Keep up good work ​

Hi there! I might have some useful info. I've been growing in coco for a year or so, handwatered from start to finish. When i have used 1 gallon pots i water with a bit less than 1/4 of a litre everytime to get about 15 % runoff. In a 3 gallon pot i water with a bit more than 0,5l to get the same amount of runoff. This vary a bit depending on the size of the rootsystem, less water is needed early in the grow. I use ferts every watering. It seems as the 1/3 of potsize every day is a good rule of thumb since my plants are happiest with 3-4 waterings/day.

But i've grown strains that were very happy with just one watering per day. The ssh in my cab atm did not like it however. So treat dif strains according to their own preferences.

I never had any (big) problems with coco as far as under/over watering, pH-problems goes. Fast as hydro, forgiving as soil. Almost.

 

[djtrichome]

i use the 150 cfm for every seal ed lite system
a 6 inch 435 for every 3 1000s double your intake size of your exhaust mass air!!
6kw in coco coir!! no co2 but it get 39 f here at nite good luck!

 

[Wariat]

Hi there! I might have some useful info. I've been growing in coco for a year or so, handwatered from start to finish. When i have used 1 gallon pots i water with a bit less than 1/4 of a litre everytime to get about 15 % runoff. In a 3 gallon pot i water with a bit more than 0,5l to get the same amount of runoff. This vary a bit depending on the size of the rootsystem, less water is needed early in the grow. I use ferts every watering. It seems as the 1/3 of potsize every day is a good rule of thumb since my plants are happiest with 3-4 waterings/day.

But i've grown strains that were very happy with just one watering per day. The ssh in my cab atm did not like it however. So treat dif strains according to their own preferences.

I never had any (big) problems with coco as far as under/over watering, pH-problems goes. Fast as hydro, forgiving as soil. Almost.

Hi 70's

Thank you for your help.

Anybody agree, or disagree with this ???

1/4 liter in 1 gallon pot to have run-off 15 % seems awfully low

Ok, so if I will water 3 times per light on, i will use only 0.75 liter per day ?? This does not agrre with what I know about principle of one-third of the pot volume..

Don't get me wrong, it would be great info for him.
Hovewer, i must be 100 percent sure, before passing this message to my friend. When he starts growing, it will be really big problem for him to ride almost a two hundred miles to hydro shop. Yea, i know this suck, but in our country there is only one well-equipped hydro shop.

One more time thank you for your advice, hovewer I will be greatfull for more info on this.

Good luck and be safe
​

 

[jackiee]

i only hand water once per day and believe that 3 or more waterings is too much even with drippers.i have 10 to 20% run off and plants seem to love it i keep my ph as close to 5.8 as possible and ec around 1.6 and never higher than 2.0 and never had any problems with water. stay lucky

 

[Wariat]

i only hand water once per day and believe that 3 or more waterings is too much even with drippers.i have 10 to 20% run off and plants seem to love it i keep my ph as close to 5.8 as possible and ec around 1.6 and never higher than 2.0 and never had any problems with water. stay lucky

Ok. Its healpfull to, but you don't mention of how much water you need to use to get run-off, and what are your pot volume.

Stay lucky too.

 

[yummybolt]

Help

Help

1. How long has this problem been going on?
a. 10-14 Days
2. What STRAIN are you growing?
a. O.G. Kush
3. What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
a. Clone
4. What is the age of your plants?
a. 60 Days
5. How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?
a. 4 weeks
6. How Tall are the plants?
a. 8-14 inches
7. What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
a. Vegatative
8. What Technique are you using?
a. Soil-Hydro
9. What size pots are you using?
a. 5 gal and 7 gal
10. What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) What Nutrient's are you using?
a. 85% Canna Coco
b. 10% Hydrotin
c. 5% Perlite
d. Nutrients (Per 32 gallon Reservoir)
i. Coco A & B - 305 ml
ii. Rhizotonic – 244 ml
iii. Cannazyme – 305ml
11. How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? How often are you feeding?
12. What order are you mixing your nutrients
a. 1) CoCo A & B 2) Rhizotonic 3) Cannazyme
13. What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
a. E.C. – 1.5
14. What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
a. 6.4
15. What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
a. P.H. Pen
16. How often are you watering?
a. Every other day
17. When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
a. 1/2/2010
b. Every other day
18. What size bulb are you using?
a. 1000 HPS
19. What is the distance to the canopy?
a. 3 ft
20. What is your RH Factor?
a. 56% (low) - 78% (high)
21. What is the canopy temperature?
a. 82 degrees Fahrenheit
22. What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
a. 73 – 84 degrees fahrenheit
23. What is the current Air Flow? Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
a. Light ventilation, oscillating fan blowing directly at plants
24. Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
a. Yes, Moist
25. Is your water HARD or SOFT?
a. Hard
26. What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
a. Tap Water
27. Are you using water from a water softener?
a. No
28. Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
a. Pruned and Pinched. Never Cloned
29. Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
a. Neemoil
i. Once a week for last two weeks (twice)
ii. Serenade – disease control
iii. Organicide
30. Are plant's infected with pest's?
a. Most likely not.

 

[Igotyourback]

Bolt

Bolt

This girl is only 4 weeks and from seed
You are using the Same Nuts I Am
My veg room

I do keep my PH at 5.5 and do have 10% to 15% run off

These girls are Only 4 Week into 12/12 and I am looking for A great Yeald off them


Im not sure what to Say, I read your Feeding Scl and I just dont see any thing Wrong with it?????? I grow in Coco and Feed By Hand Every Other Day But After 60 Days From Clones your plants should be at least 3' high and Have lots of Node Branches All over Them. I sure hope some one in here can tell you what seems to be your problem. I hope you get it fixed soon

 

[Headsmcgee1]

How do you keep the roots from growing out of the holes on the bottom of the pots?

 

[phatboyfromla]

I wish I would have gotten some coir before starting with soil. The cold weather combined with my crap soil has everything stunted. Seriously thinking about just starting over with a coir/perlite or similar mixture.

 

[jackiee]

wariat i grow in pure canna coco i use 6.5 litre pots how much water ? depends on the size of your babies and temperature just water a bit let it stand 2 minutes then add a bit more till you see water dripping out the bottom of your pots anything from 10 to 20% runoff is fine m8 stay lucky

 

[phatboyfromla]

Just got a coir block I ordered online today. Like 10lbs. This stuff looks amazing after it soaks. Just a little bit off the block made quite a bit. Is it ok to mix it with a small bit of perlite?

 

[spreadhead]

any special precautions reusing coco coir

any special precautions reusing coco coir

i am reusing my coco coir for my newly rooted clones.
i grow under a 150hps in a type stand alone clothes hanger cabinet...just completed my first coco coir grow...yea!! a truly great experience and a super alternative to get hydro like results without worrying about the h2o temps getting to high and ruining your crop. i read the first 30 or 40 so pages and remember seeing that there is no problem with reusing. what i have noticed is i have little root parts in my coco...should i soak in hygrozyme before using again or does it matter that i have pieces or webs of roots? i thought i got most of the roots out but when i went to use the old coco as the transplanting medium for newly rooted clones their were roots mixed in..

 

[Igotyourback]

This will help

This will help

i am reusing my coco coir for my newly rooted clones.
i grow under a 150hps in a type stand alone clothes hanger cabinet...just completed my first coco coir grow...yea!! a truly great experience and a super alternative to get hydro like results without worrying about the h2o temps getting to high and ruining your crop. i read the first 30 or 40 so pages and remember seeing that there is no problem with reusing. what i have noticed is i have little root parts in my coco...should i soak in hygrozyme before using again or does it matter that i have pieces or webs of roots? i thought i got most of the roots out but when i went to use the old coco as the transplanting medium for newly rooted clones their were roots mixed in..

This is A great Vidio for Coco Use

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJXJED0qD4

Good Luck

 

[bonecarver_OG]

as long as u flush its cool to re-use coco

 

[Spanishwilly]

While the topic is in this area regarding re-use of coco, can someone answer this for me? I caught someone saying in a thread that if you use Shooting Powder in your coco grow then you can't re-use the medium. When I asked him to verify this, he said it was on the package dirdections. The 5 pack I bought has no directions of any sort. The manufacturer doesn't respond to my inquiry.
In my quest to get 1GPW from a reluctant strain, I'm growing in big pots, so not getting to re-use my coco will suck.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i havent tried shooting powder, so i can not say anything about that at all.

 

[Zeinth]

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I am reusing coco over an over an over..with a r.o.water flush..

then recompost with organics and bacteria teas..and airpots.

also liking that house an garden drip clean...

BONECARVER ROCKS!

 

[bergerbuddy]

Re-using coco can work great up to 3 times providing you flush good AND....and use a vegatable bio degrader like Cannazyme... Especially at the end of the cycle..

Yummybolt.... Lower the ph of your fertilizer solution to 5.5 for a watering then move it up to 6.1 the next watering then 5.8 the next then 6.0 etc.... give it some watering like this.... Your solution is coming out a 6.4.. which doesn't seem to high.. but I think your problems will disappear if you check the PH of your solution before you feed it to the plants... and if you yo yo it around between those numbers.... This allows for all of the nutes to get uptaken at their prefferd PH values..

try it... you won't be unhappy!

 

[Castelvetro]

I wish I would have gotten some coir before starting with soil. The cold weather combined with my crap soil has everything stunted. Seriously thinking about just starting over with a coir/perlite or similar mixture.

dont skimp on the perlite in the cold weather if it has also effected your dirt grow, cold wet coco is terrible for growing, if u cant bring the temp up go with 50 percent perlite otherwise youll have wet mush that u wont be able to water frequently since its always wet and your plants wont grow as fast as they could, very common sense stuff, sorry if i insulted your intelligence, dont mean to.