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UK Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offence

genkisan

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This is a staggeringly unbelievable move, and is not justifiable or defendable for any reason.

The UK government should be more than ashamed....to stop teaching about the intentional destruction of European Jewry, the Gypsies, Slavs, Serbs and others by the Nazis, Ustachi and other Fascists is tantamount to spitting on the mass graves of the slaughtered.


Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offence
Alexandra Frean

Teachers are dropping controversial subjects such as the Holocaust and the Crusades from history lessons because they do not want to cause offence to children from certain races or religions, a report claims.

A lack of factual knowledge among some teachers, particularly in primary schools, is also leading to “shallow” lessons on emotive and difficult subjects, according to the study by the Historical Association.

The report, produced with funding from the Department for Education, said that where teachers and staff avoided emotive and controversial history, their motives were generally well intentioned.

“Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes. In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship,” it concluded.

However, it was concerned that this could lead to divisions within school, and that it might also put pupils off history.


Goes to show that appeasement, hate, intolerance and racism appear to be more important than teaching our children truth and history, at least for some.
And let's not forget what resulted from the last time the UK went thru a phase of appeasment........


My disgust and revulsion at the apathetic excuses given in the above article to justify this travesty of 'education' know no bounds........these 'teachers' should have their teaching diplomas revoked and they should go clean stables somewhere.....since shoveling shit is the only thing seem to be good at.
 
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Tarkus

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The fact that they would actually do this is mind boggling. I mean, to think about not teaching it, I expect that crap, but damn this is dumb. I always hated having to rely on someone else to teach me, especially since my teachers mostly seemed to be dumb asses, mostly. My grandparents taught me more things than any school did.
I am plenty able to learn on my own if this is the way school systems are gonna distribute knowledge.
 

Echoes

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German Tour Guide: You vill find more on Germany's contributions to ze arts in ze pamphlets ve have provided.
Brian : Yeah, about your pamphlet... uh, I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945. There's just a big gap.
Tour guide: Everyone vas on vacation. On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15...
Brian : Wait, what are you talking about? Germany invaded Poland in 1939 and...
Tour Guide: We were invited. Punch vas served. Check vit Poland.
Brian : You can't just ignore those years. Thomas Mann fled to America because of Nazism's stranglehold on Germany.
Tour guide: Nope, nope. He left to manage a Dairy Queen.
Brian : A Dairy Queen? That's preposterous.
Tour guide: I vill hear no more insinuations about the German people. Nothing bad happened. Sie werden sich hinsetzen. Sie werden ruhig sein. Sie werden nicht beleidigen Deutschland. You will sit down. You will shut up. You will not insult Germany. (Throws his hand up in a Hitler salute.)
Brian : Uh, is that a beer hall?
Tour guide: (Snapping out of it) Oh yes, Munich is renowned for its historic beer halls. (familyguyquotes.com)

But in all seriousness, this doesn't seem right to me either. "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it." It's a part of history. You can't just erase history.
 
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hey genki if it makes u feel any better now u folks have the same status in the UK school texts as all the Irish victims of 600 years of British persecution...
 

Yummybud

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well maybe it's a good thing, maybe all the Jewish kids don't want to be reminded all day that they were slaughtered like cattle because Hitler saw them as a disease in Europe. I don't know maybe I'm wrong.

Like if you were an African American in the U.S would you want to be the black kid in class when the teacher starts talking about how all blacks were slaves and sold to white people, you'd probably feel bad. I know I would if I was black.
 
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yummy i bet u would feel even worse if u were black and learned that it was other black people who took the white man's money and sold their fellow africans into new world slavery...
 

genkisan

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Yummybud said:
well maybe it's a good thing, maybe all the Jewish kids don't want to be reminded all day that they were slaughtered like cattle because Hitler saw them as a disease in Europe. I don't know maybe I'm wrong.

Like if you were an African American in the U.S would you want to be the black kid in class when the teacher starts talking about how all blacks were slaves and sold to white people, you'd probably feel bad. I know I would if I was black.


Yes, you are wrong.


Go learn some fucking history, and the value of same..................... please.
 

NserUame

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Yummybud said:
well maybe it's a good thing, maybe all the Jewish kids don't want to be reminded all day that they were slaughtered like cattle because Hitler saw them as a disease in Europe. I don't know maybe I'm wrong.

Like if you were an African American in the U.S would you want to be the black kid in class when the teacher starts talking about how all blacks were slaves and sold to white people, you'd probably feel bad. I know I would if I was black.

You don't mind people forgetting about the largest genocidal effort in history, but the minute a movie portrays Persia as a mildly different color tone you're up in arms. Get your fucking priorities straight. All this accomplishes is giving some country a chance to complete what Hitler failed at.
 

Ono Nadagin

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why when you nut jobs mention slavery you dont mention that black africans sold black africans to the slave traders... not trying to lessen the role of the white man in slavery.... just trying to tell the whole truth...

And Nugs... just when did the British have death camps for the Irish?
 
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_angst_

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It should be taught in the off chance that it prevents a similar horrific scenario from ever taking place again.

Although, I think we have turned a blind eye to other genocides even in the modern era. :(

We are not learning from our (humanity) collective mistakes. :badday:
 

NserUame

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Cause it has nothing to do with Europe and the holocaust?

Why when slavery is mentioned do people automatically think of africans? Long before people knew of 'blacks' they enslaved whoever was the poorest. Statistically I think you'll find more lighter skinned people were thrown into servitude, only in the last couple hundred years of slavery did we start raping Africa.

The majority of Europe were slaves from 900-1300AD, even beyound. You all have heard of Serfs and peasants, just a synonym for slave.
 

Yummybud

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Ok I guess I was wrong if they stop teaching it in a few generations the holocaust will become a distant memory like any other historical event.

The holocaust in ww2 wasn't the first time in history when the Jews and other minorities were killed or mass genocide against another group of people was commited.
 

Yummybud

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NserUame said:
Cause it has nothing to do with Europe and the holocaust?

Why when slavery is mentioned do people automatically think of africans? Long before people knew of 'blacks' they enslaved whoever was the poorest. Statistically I think you'll find more lighter skinned people were thrown into servitude, only in the last couple hundred years of slavery did we start raping Africa.

The majority of Europe were slaves from 900-1300AD, even beyound. You all have heard of Serfs and peasants, just a synonym for slave.


yeah that was basicly slavery but it wasn't based on racism.
 

NserUame

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No it wasnt racism. It was 'godism', they felt they had divine blood and thus the world was theirs to control. At least your average plantation owner didn't think he was a God, though he probably still acted like it.
 

Pops

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I guess that we will have to drop Roman history as well, since Caesar killed over a million pre-Frenchmen when he invaded Gaul. We don't want the Italians to be embarrassed over all the murder,rape and looting. We might as well drop early American history concerning the genocide against the Native-Americans. Well, fuck it. Let's just drop all history so no one will feel bad, esp. the cavemen with all that skull-bashing.
 

Yummybud

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lol, that's true.

maybe it is a good idea pops, just smoke some weed and pretend the holocaust and killing of natives etc never happened.

Of course I'm kidding.

The Germans don't really like to talk about the whole 1940s period lol
 
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Ono Nadagin said:
why when you nut jobs mention slavery you dont mention that black africans sold black africans to the slave traders... not trying to lessen the role of the white man in slavery.... just trying to tell the whole truth...

And Nugs... just when did the British have death camps for the Irish?

i did mention it...and the british didn't bother building death camps, they just starved the irish to death on their own land by forcing them to hand over all their produce and livestock for consumption in britain...so i guess u could say they just turned the entire island into a labor/death camp for the majority of non-landowning irish people...also maybe you should look into the thousands of irish men interred by the british during the 60s and 70s much the way many are being housed at gitmo today...

ur such a troll...
 
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o.gkushowns

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duuude, germany becoming a fascist state that ended up exterminating shitloads of people is one of the most important things to learn in history.

The point of history is to learn from our mistakes so we don't repeat them. I mean come on there's no way we're gonna repeat all that roman shit and stuff. But if you look at how germany slowly became a nazi state it seems possible that it could be repeated.
peace
 

waydee

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This has been discussed to death on other boards, turns out it was a few individual teachers and no more, not like a nationwide curriculum change or anything.

History taught in the UK at school puts a lot of focus on the wars, for obvious reasons, and its practically impossible not to teach about the Holocaust.
 
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This is ridiculous, hopefully the people of the UK will drive that message home
 

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