U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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GLENN GREENWALD: Snowden Has Stashed Secret NSA Files With People All Over The World



National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower/leaker Edward Snowden has given encoded files containing an archive of secret NSA files to several people, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald told Eli Lake of The Daily Beast.

Snowden “has taken extreme precautions to make sure many different people around the world have these archives "to [ensure] the stories will inevitably be published,” Greenwald told The Beast (emphasis added).

He added that the recipients “cannot access them yet because they are highly encrypted and they do not have the passwords. [But] if anything happens at all to Edward Snowden, he told me he has arranged for them to get access to the full archives.”


Greenwald recently told CNN that he knows Snowden "has in his possession thousands of documents, which, if published, would impose crippling damage on the United States’ surveillance capabilities and systems around the world.”

And Snowden himself said this to the South China Morning Post:

"If I have time to go through this information, I would like to make it available to journalists in each country to make their own assessment, independent of my bias, as to whether or not the knowledge of US network operations against their people should be published."

A former U.S. counterintelligence officer told Lake that members of the U.S. intelligence community “think Snowden has been planning this for years and has stashed files all over the Internet. ... At this point there is very little anyone can do about this" (emphasis added).

Lake notes that the encrypted copies of NSA archives most like underlies Snowden's statement on June 17 : “All I can say right now is the U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.”

Earlier this month, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald told The New York Times that Snowden gave him “thousands” of documents, “dozens” of which Greenwald says are newsworthy.

The Guardian has been publishing some of those files, several of which corroborate claims made by previous whistleblowers and raise serious questions about the constitutionality of the NSA running a widespread warrantless domestic surveillance program with weak oversight.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/snowden-gave-nsa-files-to-several-people-2013-6#ixzz2XH3F3dLx

 

[SpasticGramps]

Yeah but who is this "they" you are talking about? I mean "they" don't need wiretaps to leverage politicians when it's interactions with "they" that might be used to blackmail the politicians. In other words if I'm one of the powers that be, that wants the cooperation of a senator, I don't need a wiretap, or to hack into their email account to extort that politician. I can probably just use the footage from the security camera in the corporate jet I flew the senator to the Caribbean in, showing him diddling the stewardess. Why should I risk causing a peasant revolt and spend all the money to setup the thing that might cause the revolt, when I got more then enough dirt readily on hand to leverage the politicians? The people that make up "they" have power from wealth and they didn't get that power by spending money on something they don't really need.

Agree to disagree.

 

[SpasticGramps]

I find it astounding people still think that the two parties are anything more than a distraction..

Me and you both bro. It absolutely blows my mind, but is a testament to the power of propaganda and psychological diversion.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Ecuador tells the US to shove it, in response to blackmail attempt

Ecuador tells the US to shove it, in response to blackmail attempt

Ecuador has pulled put of a trade agreement, after the US tried to use it as a tool to make Ecuador do as it is told regarding Edward Snowden.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/27/ecuador-us-trade-pact-edward-snowden


Well done Ecuador.

 

[dagnabit]

^ from the story

Officials, speaking at an early morning press conference, also offered a $23m donation for human rights training in the US, a brash riposte to recent US criticism of Ecuador's own human rights record.

LMMFAO!!!!!

 

[Harry Gypsna]

^ from the story


LMMFAO!!!!!

Made me chuckle too.

 

[skullznroses]

Paula Dean gets ostracized because she once said the N word. Look at what the media can do if they find out information on you. Frankly the government is only about as bad, meaning equally bad as the media. The way women and minorities are portrayed, the way white men are type cast as stupid. The media does just as much as the government. Its the two of them working together that really scares me.

(trust me Im no Paula Dean fan)

 

[Tudo]

Surveillance vs. Infrastructure: When a Country Falls Apart

Surveillance vs. Infrastructure: When a Country Falls Apart

Surveillance vs. Infrastructure: When a Country Falls Apart

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]What characterizes the beginning stages of an empire in decline? Is it war, famine, disease, moral decay, or all of the above? There is perhaps no clear formula or single event that can be used to pinpoint when a civilization begins to fall and yet, it must seem obvious to many living at the time.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]So, let's ask the question: How about the U.S.? Is it on the verge of falling apart?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Given what I'm about to say, I think we all need to take this question seriously.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]To understand the fate of our nation, we can easily compare the following two things: The amount of taxpayer money used to invest in things that, without question, we'll all need and use for years to come, i.e. roads, bridges, dams, clean drinking water, etc – that is, our infrastructure – versus the amount of taxpayer money used by the government for creating a massive worldwide surveillance machine.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Just think about that for a moment.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Needless to say, I don't need to tell you much about recent leaks regarding the NSA. If you've been watching the news, you may know that billions are being spent each year on developing a hi-tech surveillance network to collect, record, and potentially track or predict you and others across the globe.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]How much is being spent exactly? Here are some estimates:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The NSA is one of at least 15 intelligence agencies, and combined the total U.S. intelligence budget in 2012 was $75 billion, said Steve Aftergood, director of the government secrecy program at the Federation of American Scientists, a nonpartisan think tank that analyzes national and international security issues.
...
Aftergood estimates about 14% of the country's total intelligence budget -- or about $10 billion -- goes to the NSA.
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Gordon Adams, a former White House budget official for national security, said he wouldn't be surprised if NSA's resources are "well north" of $20 billion a year.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Meanwhile, America's infrastructure – as graded by the American Society of Civil Engineers – lies in a serious state of disrepair. Here's their most recent report card:[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Essentially, the money being taken out of your wallet each and every month is not being used towards the things you and I actually need to live, but, instead, it seems that it's being used to help the government spy on you. Forget that our sewers, roads, and drinking water systems are one grade away from failing. You could be a terrorist! You just don't know it yet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]So, I ask you: Is the U.S. on the verge of falling apart? Our priorities determine our future. Right now, it appears that our government's greatest priority is not whether we'll have electricity, drinking water, and good roads in the years ahead, but, as Edward Snowden says, “to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive [and extremely expensive] surveillance machine" secretly being built. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Well, the secret is out. The U.S. government is investing heavily in a bridge that no one wants. Let's hope it collapses before our actual bridges do.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Bottom line: While much of our infrastructure is near failing and severely underfunded, the U.S. government is wasting taxpayer money on building a modern Police State instead.[/FONT]

LINKIFIED:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/sheridan-c2.1.1.html

 

[BullDogUK]

I'm sure this has been said a hundred times already but aw man have I had fun telling people 'I told you so!'

It makes me feel happy until I remember that I've had some American dude looking through private information for the past 12 years. I'm in the UK so I don't get none of your citizenship rights on snooping haha.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

This shit has been going on for a little longer than 12 years.

Here is a tune from 74. (Obama was 13 at the time so i doubt it was his fault). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LugEc-uQBME. If you listened to the media it was the devil that made them do it.

 

[gaiusmarius]

indeed people, if you think this started only 12 years ago do some research on echelon.

 

[BullDogUK]

You raise a good point, this shit has been around almost as long as the internet. It's just different now due to the scale. It's sad because people talk about 'my facebook' or 'my twitter'. It's not yours you dimwit! It's a private corporation!

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Us Army blocks the Guardian

Us Army blocks the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/us-army-blocks-guardian-website-access

Copy pasted from article

The US army has admitted to blocking access to parts of the Guardian website for thousands of defence personnel across the country.

A spokesman said the military was filtering out reports and content relating to government surveillance programs to preserve "network hygiene" and prevent any classified material appearing on unclassified parts of its computer systems.

The confirmation follows reports in the Monterey Herald that staff at the Presidio military base south of San Francisco had complained of not being able to access the Guardian's UK site at all, and had only partial access to the US site, following publication of leaks from whistleblower Edward Snowden.

The Pentagon insisted the Department of Defense was not seeking to block the whole website, merely taking steps to restrict access to certain content.

But a spokesman for the Army's Network Enterprise Technology Command (Netcom) in Arizona confirmed that this was a widespread policy, likely to be affecting hundreds of defence facilities.




Can't have all those soldiers realising they are fighting for big business, and not freedom as they are led to believe.

 

[opiumo]

Ministerium für Staatssicherheit ie. Stasi would be damn proud over the NSA, shiiiiieeet....



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38

 

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DARPA Manager Explains Multiple Ways Cars Can Be Hacked And Completely Taken Over

DARPA PM Kathleen Fisher, High Assurance Systems
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The Declaration of Natural Rights
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Dead, Denounced and Debated: Stalin's 'Stockholm Syndrome'
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How To Brainwash A Nation
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/franklin-project-national-service_b_3492226.html

 

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LIVE VIDEO: Glenn Greenwald first speaking event post NSA/Snowden 10:15pm ET


Tonight Glenn Greenwald speaks, via Skype, at 10:15 PM ET at his first major event since his Edward Snowden/NSA revelations. You can watch the event right here:


http://iroots.org/2013/06/28/live-video-glenn-greenwald-first-speaking-event-post-nsasnowden-1015pm-et/

The event, hosted by SOCIALISM 2013no, will likely be used against his credibility by the establishment left and right. Let’s hope the American people can keep their eyes on the ball and focus on the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I wouldn’t hold my breath…

Senator Rand Paul speaks at an event in South Carolina at 6:30 PM ET. Watch here.

 

[vta]

The Judge

The Judge

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[Easy7]

Most people don't think that they are anything thte Government would find worthy of spying on. I'd say that this is a bad way to look at things, always reserve yourself the right to do something worthwhile!

 

[idiit]

Paula Dean gets ostracized because she once said the N word

N***** is one of my favorite words. i use it a lot. it means spiritual caliber, not social status based on skin color. the word was misapplied from the get-go. the slave owners and nsa types are the real n******.

tsunami after tsunami of shit is starting to hit the fan. been happening. is intensifying:

26 US Senators Make Formal Complaint - Senators accuse government of using 'secret law' to collect Americans' data

http://12160.info/forum/topics/26-us-senators-make-formal-complaint-senators-accuse-government-o

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

Senators and congressmen accusing the government of underhanded shit is just to funny to take seriously

Aren't these the same people who voted for the patriot act in the first place? Aren't they the same group that did not even bother to read the fucking thing before they voted for it? Aren't they the same group that approves funding for the NSA?

How can anyone actually believe that any of these guys are (or ever have been) on our side?