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trying for 15lbs

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Ya hear that hunter, your doing it wrong :muahaha:

your fucking funny pumkin, mind I ask what the right way is?
 
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toohighmf

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not trying to spam

not trying to spam

but pumpkin always seems to have the right answer, even when he uses a wetting agent in his res.. SM-90 is nothing more. I agree most people dont flood correctly. I used to flood r/w cubes in hydroton lined net pots, but I stretched White poly over the tables and cut little holes perfectly spaced where the net pots go. still had a problem occasionally, but I switched to top drip irrigation and left the problems of pythium behind. :muahaha:

One more thing Pumpkin..

you would rather use a 1/4" mat than a 1"? as jesus said in the big lebowski
"LAUGHABLE MAN!" I personally like it when my roots have more to weave through and something thicker to anchor to as well. You are the 1st person I ever heard recommend using the 1/4'' since the new wave of thicker, denser, airier mats hit the market. another big problem is drainage in flood systems. are you going to tell me that a 1/4" coco mat drains your medium any faster than the 1"?
I'm not going to say who am, but being in the indoor growing industry for over 17 years, own a shop, read and written a book or two, and tech repped the most extensive line of nutes (whether you like their stuff or not) as well as help moderate their forums I am perfectly aware of the problems I have solved for thousands of growers. I dont know anyone I steered wrong. Ok, so my only fault is an inflated ego, but at least I'm giving sound advice w/o the attitude. :dueling:
 
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Vafoor

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pumpkin2006 said:
No offense, but if your flooded water is exposed to light, then your doing it wrong.

My flood tables: 10" square net pots that are 5" tall, filled with 60% sunshine brand coco (puffed in bag... so prewashed), 40% Fox farms big n' chunky perlite on a 1/4" thick (1" is waaaay to thick) General hydroponics 4'x8' coco root mat with hydroton filled in between every pot and up to the tops of the 5" pots. I flood 4" up, as set my the overflow valves. I also run a recirculating pump and at least 8 air stones, per reservoir and run SM-90 at the recommended 3ml a gallon. Me and all my buddies run a system just like this and have never seen root rot in any setup/run.

Can you show us a picture of how to do it right? Oh right...
 
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I also run a recirculating pump and at least 8 air stones
If ya ditch the stones and used open lines with the same pump(s) you're dissolved oxygen levels, if not already maxed, will go up.
 
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I've never had root rot on a table, that is some wicked shit..

all about the slope baby!

and pffffffft, why don't more people use HYDROGAURD?
the stuff just fucking rocks the house.. 5ml/gal in every res.
 

TickleMyBalls

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Neptune said:
I've never had root rot on a table, that is some wicked shit..

all about the slope baby!

and pffffffft, why don't more people use HYDROGAURD?
the stuff just fucking rocks the house.. 5ml/gal in every res.

I got some in the botanicare 3 pack with the cal mag and clearex. It definitly works like a champ. I tested it every other res change for 4 weeks to see the difference and algae definitly started to grow on the weeks that I didn't have it. gonna have to invest in a big bottle of it!
 

hunterwoundedft

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i have been running top feed systems and ebb flow systems for alot of years. when i first started hydro i used straight perlite(which i still believe is the best "true" hydro media). the rot in this system i believe came from a reused 1" coir mat that was not cleaned b4 reuse. the mat had been sitting in another room for a few weeks in some what high humidity also. ebb flow, whether exposed to light or not, does not cause any problems by itself. i have lots of crops where the res and the ebb flowed water were exposed to some degree of light w/o any issues.
like THMF i am no novice. i have only seen 1 or 2 guys produce as much weed as i do on a consistant basis. my worst crop recently still produced 8lbs from 7-750s(about a year ago), and i was pretty upset w/ that entire grow(first week of veg i added too much micro by accident and it fucked em up all the way to the end). but any1 switching from a medium that they use pretty exclusively to a medium they r very unused to and using it under 10lights will run into an issue now and then

unlike many out there i have grown so many crops i am not in some dream world where everything is perfect every time because i am such a great grower. i know from true experience of repeated crop after crop after crop that even i do not and likely will not know everything and i make dumb mistakes at times from being tired or just not thinking. as soon as u think u know everything is as soon as u r fucking urself. how many of u out there r producing 6 to 10 crops a year on a regular basis and having success? well i am :). but i still listen to advice from every1. i have found over the years that thinking i know everything and refusing to ask others questions only hurts me.

Neptune, i have used Hydroguard for many crops over the last several years. it is another top product by Botanicare. every crop my nutrients r slightly different. last few crops i went 1/2 organic(either metanuturals or botanicare organics) and 1/2 chem(AN 2 part and 3 part) for the base nutes w/ great success. but this is not coir and perlite mix. in true hydro systems(i don't consider coir a "true" hydro medium) i have found that a sterile, non organic nutrient solution is the best way to go and it is the only way i will recomend to any new to intermediate growers. even though the vast majority of intermediate growers think they r experts and generally don't listen to advice.LOL!!LOL!!
 

sandeer2

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hunterwoundedft said:
i am no novice. i have only seen 1 or 2 guys produce as much weed as i do on a consistant basis. my worst crop recently still produced 8lbs from 7-750s....

unlike many out there i have grown so many crops i am not in some dream world where everything is perfect every time because i am such a great grower. i know from true experience of repeated crop after crop after crop that even i do not and likely will not know everything and i make dumb mistakes at times from being tired or just not thinking. as soon as u think u know everything is as soon as u r fucking urself. how many of u out there r producing 6 to 10 crops a year on a regular basis and having success? well i am :). but i still listen to advice from every1. i have found over the years that thinking i know everything and refusing to ask others questions only hurts me.

Neptune, i have used Hydroguard for many crops over the last several years. it is another top product by Botanicare. every crop my nutrients r slightly different. last few crops i went 1/2 organic(either metanuturals or botanicare organics) and 1/2 chem(AN 2 part and 3 part) for the base nutes w/ great success. but this is not coir and perlite mix. in true hydro systems(i don't consider coir a "true" hydro medium) i have found that a sterile, non organic nutrient solution is the best way to go .....

First off i'd like to get to know those lady friends you've bee hanging out with to do so well, and which kind they are ....(always nice when u have good gens to work with , which adds up to 1/2 half of the ease of any successful gro ...especially if you found ladies that like you back ;o)

Know just what u mean about tredding lightly with organics in hydro , more often good gens combined with smart regimen of proper nutes and watering/medium, good air flow & temps ...and then you just add light ( and the right ladies) , voila . Do use a little GH floralicious plus still but even without it and just plain nutes , things would smell as sweet . On making boo boos i let mites take hold recently where normally i would have caught them much much earlier but sometimes you just get caught lagging (too much marathon running) where mites never sleep , lol. Oh well , out with the floramite & C02....

On the subject of root rot and rez health got to have that grower's "tilt" as Neptune mentions which creates the right moist ness under if running on mats ....have tried doing 1min "mini-floods" just enough to rewet the underneath of the mat with it quickly running off . Something i have done to ease the worry of build up of pathogens is to occassionally run a 40watt UV submersible sterilizer running at only 250gph. This wattage has a 95% kill rate of bio-bugs at 650gph so running at 1/2 the flow rate offers around 98.9% kill rate . Friend of mine has a lovely pond supply up here and his Koi fish are the healthiest you've ever seen ...and water in every tank is very clear ! I also use specialty heavy duty air pumps rated to do 5000gals with 8 outs for oxy .


** Someone did put out some hugo 6x6's made with rubberized bound coco once , which was an extremely porous weave . Would love to have that same product made into 1" prefabed inserts to fit at the bottom of every coco pot ...that would be "sweet airation" baby and completely minimize any coco leak onto the table . Fairly new to coco myself and still experimenting with perlite/coco ratios, but yrs ago thought perlite was just needing something like coco to mate with to create the perfect medium , and together it seems to be .

Anyone feel free to comment of the UV idea...

regards
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toohighmf

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Pumpkin wiz...

Pumpkin wiz...

pumpkin2006 said:
First off, your dumb. Just thought I put that out there... I wasn't being a dick then, but I am now... funny how people can do that. All I said was, you shouldn't be having problems, heres how I do it and I don't have problems. I didn't say: "My word shall be divine and you will do as I say". So defensive... cause your ego is hurt that you think your so smart and that someone would challenge it and then you would look dumb..... classic

Ok... why your dumb: if you knew anything about SM-90 you wouldn't have said that... how about you goto Nutrilifes webpage or maybe read the back of a bottle some time before you type. Thats amazing in 17 years you haven't even figured out what SM-90 does.

I find it amazing that you had pythium in your ebb n' flow show (no offense hunterwoundedft, you realized what was wrong and I'm sure you wont do it again). I mean, hunter actually did something that caused it, but you just got it randomly? :biglaugh: man you suck.

About the 1/4" vs 1", thats preference, but I bet I could find at least 2 quotes on this thread alone stating that they don't like the 1" mats. Geez your stupid. Anchor? Are you serious? You think that your plants medium, in its pot, intertwined through a 1" mat is going to provide better anchoring then a 1/4"... maybe for less then 24 hours I'll show you a pic of some of my 4' tall monsters on the flood table that are perfectly "anchored". Yes yes, I don't have pictures to back up my claims... have fun in jail when the prosecutor brings out 40 pictures of your grow and uses it as evidence.

About you being some great guy in the industry, I've found that doesn't mean shit. Grow shop owners, reps, tech guys tend to actually be quite dumb. They give some sound advice, but rarely IMO. I've never actually seen you give unsound advice yet, but I'm sure (if we interact more) you'll show it soon. BTW, if your so good, why don't you just show it through words, instead of blah blah blahing about how cool you think you are.

You wasted 5 frigging paragraphs to spam?? wish I had your job! Unfortuntately my job is to educate and speculate. Yes I consider myself a friggin expert on hydro.. thats why I was payed so well by your favorite company! Not to mention saving my buddies 10 light grow right in front of your face and you call me out? dude, whos a fool? I'm gonna go get the back of the bottle of SM-90.. I believe the exact words are "WETTING AGENT"...

Sure their are other "plant extracts" but that shit's a wetting agent and they got you buyin it! lol! I used to use the whole nutrilife line of products. I dont anymore... wonder why... I was trying to have an educated debate, not trash talk you. I think it was after I saw you telling someone else in another thread how stupid they are that i figured this would be good one since I already remedied the situation. But no.. I'm stupid! wheres the smiley w the the guy just droppin his pants? oh well close enough..
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killabrown420

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pumpkin2006 said:
Yes yes, I don't have pictures to back up my claims... have fun in jail when the prosecutor brings out 40 pictures of your grow and uses it as evidence.

Your dumb for thinking digital photography can be used as evidence in a court of law.
 

TickleMyBalls

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The only pics they'll use in court are the ones the cops take after they bust your grow. Otherwise, theres probably .00021% of a chance of getting busted from posting a picture online, as long as you're not retarded and put yourself in it, with your address and shit on your forehead.
 
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The only pics they'll use in court are the ones the cops take after they bust your grow. Otherwise, theres probably .00021% of a chance of getting busted from posting a picture online.
OK...started with the first page of this thread and AWESOME. First thing that came to mind though was different strains. There's lot's of great stuff out there that is still VERY high quality but yields soooo much better than what you were starting with.

As for pictures being used against you...maybe someday you'll find that one out as I gotta go with Pumpkin. Photos posted online can and have been used against people.
 

toohighmf

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words

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pumpkin and I had our words privately. wer'e good. I dont think this thread was meant to debate over the photographical evidence, but compliment this man on his brass balls for showin it off...

for those who dont know me, heres a pic of my last grow. it is an automated CEA aircooled room using an 8000btu a/c and 3 450cfm fans to keep my environment. again, not to clutter hunters thread, He calls me because I know what I'm doing. been provin it on the AN forums for years...








 
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hey toohigh, good to see you over here. 57, don't let em get u down bro. You know what they say about asses, there is one in every crowd. LOL
 
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toohighmf said:
for those who dont know me, heres a pic of my last grow. it is an automated CEA aircooled room using an 8000btu a/c and 3 450cfm fans to keep my environment. again, not to clutter hunters thread, He calls me because I know what I'm doing. been provin it on the AN forums for years...

that was cheesy...
 
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WTF

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is all this bullshit. What happened to hunterwounded57chevy foots tryin for 15lb grow. YAP YAP YAP..everyone has an asshole, everyone eats, sleeps, and hell everyone seems to have to voice their opinion. GROWING. Med. MJ. how show. that is what this is about.

any updates wounded feet after the frenchnuckie smack down session.

THMF. getting sucked into the shit fest buddy.LOL

hope all is well now and leaping and bounding into 15lb fruition hunt.

peaces | respect

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toohighmf

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40 clit

40 clit

forty grit said:
that was cheesy...

and so is half your thoughts on hydroponics and your attitude sucks too..
I put my time in. I work hard, and I build to educate. it aint easy bein cheesy, but its better than your shitty outlook on how us AN bums bust nice clean professional gardens and help our brothers out. what do you do? other than dog us for using AN, or being affiliates there of. oh did i hurt your lil buddies feelings? time to attack the new guy I guess. why dont you show me something that isnt so cheesy to back your shit up? I remember you kookin out on the AN site come to think of it.. w that same camel toe too...
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