Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[Captain Red Eye]

Somehow even the junkies have a place to sleep.

It’s almost like it’s way better than a city.

I appreciate that you would willingly feed hungry people. That reminds me of a story.

I've got a few physical ailments. like many old guys. and live on a tight budget.
This year I had to take down 6 large trees lest they fall and hit the house, a wire or the road. Ash borers had made the trees unsafe.

Tree contractors were FAR beyond the budget. So I did it, despite the old guy ailments. Used ropes, come a longs etc and old guy ingenuity. Took a while, but I'm patient and worked around my ailments best I could, had no choice. Couldn't let the trees drop limbs into the road etc.

Figured we'd use the wood for firewood to help save some money to pay for rising costs, looming auto repairs etc. Ailments were kicking in and I thought it might be wise to hire some day labor to help me move the firewood, before snow covered it all .

On my way into town to get a new chain for my saw, I passed an able-bodied pan handler at his normal begging spot near an intersection. The guy looks about 40. I've seen him many times strutting about town, and in a local convenience store buying alcohol and junk food with his pan handled cash.

I stopped and asked him, if he was interested in making some money for helping me stack some wood. He's way younger than me and judging by all the stuff he carts around pretty capable physically.
He did not leap to my offer to make some money for honest work.

When I have the money, I often donate to pan handling people that look desperate. Also help some very elderly with yard work. and house repairs but I hesitate to donate to people decades younger than me, that I know drink up their "earnings".

Should I have given this pan handling and self proclaimed homeless guy my chain saw chain money and gone home and gnawed the firewood into stove length chunks?

Hell no, is my thought.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Perhaps Gustavo did request this. Perhaps Marta decided that to trust Gustavo's judgement was the best price to pay. That responsibility overrides charity. Who was driving?

BTW you replied/quoted prior to my edit indicating I had unintentionally posted in this thread.

It's your story, you can write it anyway you like.

I would more than likely have stopped if somebody was injured and I knew it wasn't a ploy to rob people. This has been done and it pays to be discerning.

I would more than likely have stopped if the weather looked ominous and the people might have frozen to death, even if I knew the people and they were shit heads. Did that at least twice for the same irresponsible people.

If they had stood in the road and tried to MAKE me stop and I sensed some fuckery, I'd have made a hood ornament out of the assholes.

 

[armedoldhippy]

I'd have made a hood ornament out of the assholes.

pretty sure that's illegal as well. but, you be you...

 

[mean mr.mustard]

This is the same guy that says people will naturally get along and help each other voluntarily.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

pretty sure that's illegal as well. but, you be you...

This is the same guy that says people will naturally get along and help each other voluntarily.

That's a strawman error on your part. I never said people will automatically get along. I have said human interactions should take place with regard to consent and people that violate consent of otherwise peaceful people are acting wrongfully.

In that regard, no person has the right to use offensive force. The only way I'd use defensive force, is if somebody were using offensive force or about to use offensive force on me etc.

You should not be intellectually dishonest in your disparagements. You can do better.

Statist claim: Force Happens.​

Fallacy:​

Statist: "Force is a fact of life."

Response:​

So is rape. That doesn't mean it should be accepted, encouraged and institutionalized. (KH)

No one disputes that interpersonal force occurs. Used as an objection to voluntaryism/anarchism, the true statement seems to hide some false assumptions:

1. that anarchists deny this fact
2. that compulsory "cooperation" is better than voluntary cooperation.

Actually, anarchists agree that (unfortunately) there is violent aggression in this world. We deny that monopoly government is a better remedy - does better at harm reduction - than voluntary cooperation through free markets. [HB]

 

[RobFromTX]

and everyone is welcome for dinner at 5pm.

Whats wrong with dinner at 5pm?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

That's a strawman error on your part. I never said people will automatically get along.

That's a strawman error and logical fallacy on your part.

I never said that you said that.

You should not be intellectually dishonest in your disparagements. You can do better.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

That's a strawman error and logical fallacy on your part.

I never said that you said that.

Oh, it's like that eh?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Not in the least.

I refuse to use bullshit tactics and underhanded phrasing.

I get to the point regardless of fluff and nonsense.

I do, however, reserve the right to make fun of idealistic dipshits who get their windows broken out while they're traveling.

 

[RobFromTX]

Man how things change

 

[mean mr.mustard]

No kidding.

Especially a hundred years before that.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Imagine if you had said, "sure that auto mechanic is a known rip off artist, but we can't just bring our car to a cheaper more ethical mechaniic".

Imagine if you had said, "sure I know those cooks sometimes spit in my food and the waitress is surly but we can't just try another place to eat".

I bet you'd bring your vehicle to another place or do the repairs yourself.
I bet you'd try another place for breakfast or stay home and cook your own food.

Why would you then stay with a service provider that claims to be "the justice system" if they frequently and publicly failed to deliver justice?

In any other service scenario most people would try a competitor if they thought one service supplier was doing a poor job.

What are you talking about

 

[eastcoastjoe]

I get to the point regardless of fluff and nonsense.

You must be drunk. You’re the king of fluff.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Not in the least.

I refuse to use bullshit tactics and underhanded phrasing.

I get to the point regardless of fluff and nonsense.

I do, however, reserve the right to make fun of idealistic dipshits who get their windows broken out while they're traveling.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

If you want me to shave just say so.

Is there a Locks Of Love for whiskers?

My beard comes off in one piece if I work from the neck up.

Hector would not have been on the walls by the time the horse was wheeled in.

He was bird food by then.

My shower beers keep my history sharp

 

[Captain Red Eye]

What are you talking about

I'm saying when you are "allowed to" you would choose a different service supplier if the one you were using, failed to meet your expectations.

You were supposed to extrapolate that the so called service supplier "government justice system" holds a forcible monopoly, thus proving my previous point, that it is, indeed, a forcible monopoloy.

Your inability to extrapolate has lead me to believe, I should shift direction.

 

[shiva82]

10% to the big guy . biden sends more funds, in the form of out of date weapons, to ukraine

and ukraine lowers the conscription age to 18 for the meat grinder

disgusting

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Russia is getting its ass kicked with out of date weapons.

They're supposed to have had Ukraine "fixed" years ago.

They probably shouldn't have invaded.

I guess Biden just needs to say it's presidential and he's immune.

What is the age of conscription where you pay taxes Shiva?

It's already 18 here.

Is that disgusting too?

 

[Microbeman]

Whats wrong with dinner at 5pm?

It should be 7 - that's what

 

[RobFromTX]

It should be 7 - that's what

Sounds kind of project 2025ish to me