Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[VinScentVanGro]

Audition Brendan Gleeson.

Okay cool. Who’s gonna play Bill?

 

[RobFromTX]

He actually spent weeks learning how to handle and throw knives for that role. Legend

 

[Captain Red Eye]

The Department of Education being defunded is pulling all of that logic and science right back in the window, isn't it?

Maddeningly brilliant.

Department of Education? Did you mean the coercively funded Department of Indoctrination?

One way to tell the difference between education and indoctrination? Indoctrination can have an element of force behind it, education not so much.

People who are really for freedom and liberty and honoring other's choices, don't insist other disinterested but peaceful people pay for their ideas. The Department of Education fails that test.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

It's none of my business who fucks who

Exactly.

I asked because I wanted to know what the people involved in a relationship like that would call it. Seems like there's a lot of people asking (and some demanding) other people call them this or that or they or thee etc. So, in that vein I think it's reasonable to ask the question I did.

That's something that you should ask people if you're not sure.

Just a heads up, people are generally pretty private about their sex lives regardless of identity.

The other stuff I posted was meant to be another question and also to inject some humor. Maybe you should lighten up a little.

If I thought it was humor I would have referenced it as such.

Also, if you're questioning my respect for personal liberty, you're barking up the wrong tree. My rights and yours don't come from a political nation either, but that's a different discussion. Maybe someday we'll go there.

Oh God.

 

[RobFromTX]

Department of Education? Did you mean the coercively funded Department of Indoctrination?

Its a really grey area

 

[mean mr.mustard]

This is going to turn into an "I'm allergic to taxes" thread.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Exactly.



That's something that you should ask people if you're not sure.

Just a heads up, people are generally pretty private about their sex lives regardless of identity.



If I thought it was humor I would have referenced it as such.



Oh God.

Honestly that was kind of a shitty reply.

I wasn't asking specific actual people about their sex lives. So, no violation of anyone's privacy there.

I was asking those posting in this thread, you included, what some hypothetical people having sex might consider their act to be. A sex act, where one is a person with a dick that identifies as a woman and one is a person with a vagina, that is a woman. What is that called ?

As far as you questioning my respect for liberty thing, your "oh god" response was actual humor to me, even if you didn't intend it to be. Just a heads up, if you are for "the Department of Education" you've already lost any debate we'd have about personal liberty.

 

[VinScentVanGro]

Department of Education? Did you mean the coercively funded Department of Indoctrination?

Right!?! Literacy has been declining ever since it was founded.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Honestly that was kind of a shitty reply.

I am not apologetic.

I was asking those posting in this thread, you included, what some hypothetical people having sex might consider their act to be. A sex act, where one is a person with a dick that identifies as a woman and one is a person with a vagina, that is a woman. What is that called ?

Sex.

As far as you questioning my respect for liberty thing, your "oh god" response was actual humor to me, even if you didn't intend it to be.

It was my intention.

Just a heads up, if you are for "the Department of Education" you've already lost any debate we'd have about personal liberty.

Glad to hear that.

It saves time ignoring the ignorant.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Right!?! Literacy has been declining ever since it was founded.

Dumbing people down only means it's working as designed. The Prussian government school system was designed to create obedient unquestioning people, after Kaiser Wilhelm was pissed off because his soldiers wouldn't obediently run into cannon fire as ordered and be slaughtered.

Horace Mann a control freak from Massachusetts liked the Prussian school model in the mid 1800s so much, he brought it to the USA. It's the basis of government mandated "education" today.

We've got a Mustard Tiger guy whining about losing the Department of Indoctrination out of one side of his mouth and then trying to chastise me for not being "liberty" enough. Holding two opposing views at once like that is pretty fucking funny.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

then trying to chastise me for not being "liberty" enough

Tell me more about this.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Horace Mann had six tenets

1. the public should no longer remain ignorant

2. that such education should be paid for, controlled, and sustained by an interested public

3. that this education will be best provided in schools that embrace children from a variety of backgrounds

4. that this education must be non-sectarian

5. that this education must be taught using the tenets of a free society

6. that education should be provided by well-trained, professional teachers.

I can see all of the trickery from here...

 

[Captain Red Eye]

It saves time ignoring the ignorant.

Except you're not for "ignoring the ignorant" or leaving people who are disinterested and peaceful but have different ideas alone. You're okay with forcing ideas you like on them and making them pay for them too. That's inescapable based on your contradicting commentary about liberty while also supporting a coercively funded so-called education program.

I can be apologetic, when I've contradicted myself and it's pointed out. Some people have a harder time with that, apparently.

Weren't you just trying to chastise me about talking out of both sides of my mouth? Please pick one, you support personal liberty or you're for forcing people to pay for ideas you like, even if they prefer not to?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I asked to hear about the chastisement....

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Horace Mann had six tenets

1. the public should no longer remain ignorant

2. that such education should be paid for, controlled, and sustained by an interested public

3. that this education will be best provided in schools that embrace children from a variety of backgrounds

4. that this education must be non-sectarian

5. that this education must be taught using the tenets of a free society

6. that education should be provided by well-trained, professional teachers.

I can see all of the trickery from here...

Liberty has a tenet too. If you're peaceful and not trying to run others lives, you get the freedom to make your own choices and not have others force their choices for you.

Are you going to admit or deny that so-called public education is coercively funded and doesn't honor freedom of choice?

Are you going to admit or deny that liberty and coercion-based funding are opposing concepts?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Except you're not for "ignoring the ignorant" or leaving people who are disinterested and peaceful but have different ideas alone.

Not if your different ideas are banishment and legislated morality.

You're okay with forcing ideas you like on them and making them pay for them too. That's inescapable based on your contradicting commentary about liberty while also supporting a coercively funded so-called education program.

I don't think taxes are bad.

I can be apologetic, when I've contradicted myself and it's pointed out. Some people have a harder time with that, apparently.

I'm sorry if you have hurt feelings.

Weren't you just trying to chastise me about talking out of both sides of my mouth?

I was trying to figure that out...

Please pick one, you support personal liberty or you're for forcing people to pay for ideas you like, even if they prefer not to?

I support personal liberty.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Liberty has a tenet too. If you're peaceful and not trying to run others lives, you get the freedom to make your own choices and not have others force their choices for you.

Unless you live in a country with laws.

Are you going to admit or deny that so-called public education is coercively funded and doesn't honor freedom of choice?

I'm going to say that you're allergic to taxes.

I think everyone has the right to homeschooling for their children.

Are you going to admit or deny that liberty and coercion-based funding are opposing concepts?

I'm not allergic to taxes.

 

[Captain Red Eye]

Tell me more about this.

Did I misconstrue that you were trying to chastise me?

You said - "Don't (barely) hide it and lie about your beliefs about liberty and freedom while the other side of your mouth is betraying the fuck out of you".

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Only if you took it personally...

 

[iTarzan]

I've been making sure people understand what Trump has wanted to do to our country for almost a decade now....

I recognize the same language that ruined millions of lives.

I didn't want to think that the "huh huh that's gay" generation might have gotten swindled into tearing off entire chunks of our nation's liberty later in life...

But it looks like there's more than a few executive orders coming.... fom an elected autocratic authoritarian (now with more blackshirts)...

I hope they support liberty and justice for all.

But I think that they'll probably just support Trump.

Anyway, I'll be back for some more free speech eventually.

Translation...
Mustard has been using ad hominem attacks and fear mongering because he can't get rational, intelligent and educated people to agree with him.